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unrepentant progress

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Thu Jul 3, 2014, 11:20 PM Jul 2014

Ted Rall: At Some Point, Progressives Need to Grow a Pair and Stop Having Anything To Do With... [View all]

Ted Rall: At Some Point, Progressives Need to Grow a Pair and Stop Having Anything To Do With the Democratic Party

You don’t have to be clairvoyant to see that the next presidential election promises nothing for liberals but more of the same: dismay, disappointment and disgust — in no small part with themselves.

Hillary Clinton, a conservative warmonger ideologically indistinguishable from Dwight Eisenhower, will almost certainly be the Democratic nominee. But she isn’t really a Democrat. Traditionally, Democrats were pro-worker; she and her husband pushed through NAFTA, GATT, the WTO and a slew of free-trade scams that have destroyed American jobs and depressed salaries. Democrats cared about the poor; Hillary has never so much as suggested a substantial anti-poverty initiative. Democrats aren’t supposed to invade sovereign countries for the hell of it; Clinton repeatedly pushed WMD lies, voted to invade Iraq and still hasn’t apologized for the two million Iraqis whose deaths for which she shares responsity. Democrats want single-payer healthcare; instead, she created the template for Obamacare, which keeps rates high to protect insurance company profits.

Yet in today’s “Democratic” Party, Hillary is “inevitable.”

Yes, the highly resuméed, slightly accomplished ex-senator could face a challenge from the left. But not a real one. Even if party bosses allow an actual primary process (they did not in 2012), any primary challenge will be symbolic and impotent (hello Bernie Sanders), poorly funded and sad, raising the faded, tattered flag of liberalism in a quixotic bid to coat Hill’s coronation with a veneer of small-d democratic legitimacy.

More: http://rall.com/2014/07/03/syndicated-column-at-some-point-progressives-need-to-grow-a-pair-and-stop-having-anything-to-do-with-the-democratic-party


I quite agree with Rall about the current state of the Democratic Party. It's been this way ever since the 1970s, although the 1990s were a sea change. But what are you going to do? Vote another madman like Dubya or McCain in?

Personally I've accepted that the Presidency is beyond hope for a good long time, so I vote strategically. I live in a red state with no chance in hell that Hillary, or anyone else to the left of a rabid raccoon, could win. So I write in my heart's desire -- Green, Socialist, whomever. Same thing if I lived in an eterna-blue state. However, if I lived in one of the battleground states, you can bet your bippy I'd be pulling that lever for whomever the saner candidate is -- which almost by definition means the Democratic candidate.

Meanwhile, I try to work where I can to get more liberal candidates into offices at home. Maybe someday down the line they'll hold offices with real power, maybe not. But for now it's all I can do, and at least I don't have to feel like I've sold my soul or as if I've enabled another Hitler.
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IBTBL RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #1
"In before the blue links" unrepentant progress Jul 2014 #3
Sorry. RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #4
Ah! I hadn't heard that before. unrepentant progress Jul 2014 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author leftyohiolib Jul 2014 #5
Thanks for your concern! RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author leftyohiolib Jul 2014 #10
You clearly didn't read what I wrote unrepentant progress Jul 2014 #11
yeah i lept right to outrage sorry leftyohiolib Jul 2014 #14
No worries. unrepentant progress Jul 2014 #15
I was energized to fight during the Bush years, then from picking Rahm as Chief of Staff... yurbud Jul 2014 #60
Bad policies should have consequences. Maedhros Jul 2014 #2
that's what primaries are for. in the general you vote for the democrat. if you dont like him you leftyohiolib Jul 2014 #9
I will not vote for any politician that will work to pass the TPP or TISA Maedhros Jul 2014 #18
Hillary President Of College Republicans billhicks76 Jul 2014 #23
Bush Sr. and Clinton? Say it ain't so! Scuba Jul 2014 #26
Photoshopped? nt brush Jul 2014 #30
Nope. Scuba Jul 2014 #31
It's real. unrepentant progress Jul 2014 #39
that is one sure of making those very things happen leftyohiolib Jul 2014 #25
I refuse to be held hostage by a political Party that doesn't represent my interests. Maedhros Jul 2014 #40
the party is what you make of it and if you dont vote you concede your vote to the republicans leftyohiolib Jul 2014 #43
I vote in every election. [n/t] Maedhros Jul 2014 #44
...^ that 840high Jul 2014 #54
Then you get the TPP and TISA and military operations overseas. jeff47 Jul 2014 #34
Yeah, you listen to ted rall. Cha Jul 2014 #7
You also did not read what I wrote unrepentant progress Jul 2014 #13
good for you. Cha Jul 2014 #16
I generally love your cartoons; but ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #12
Gee thanks Ted, but I'll pass...mmmkay? Perhaps you could start up, "I'm a Liberal... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #17
Casablanca billhicks76 Jul 2014 #24
I am not Ted Rall, and you did not read what I wrote unrepentant progress Jul 2014 #36
So the same ideological schism that we say could sink the GOP with the Tea Party is good for us? TeamPooka Jul 2014 #19
I agree with Ted on almost all of what he said except for the solution. Dustlawyer Jul 2014 #20
the protests in Wisconsin were on the right track UNTIL they bought into recall election yurbud Jul 2014 #47
That is why in other posts I have recommended people to talk to the cops they know. Dustlawyer Jul 2014 #48
Sounds good. You know 840high Jul 2014 #53
There is plenty of meat on the ACA bone to anyone geek tragedy Jul 2014 #66
GOP or Democrats--It's sort of a "charybdis and scylla situation" nikto Jul 2014 #21
K&R DeSwiss Jul 2014 #22
... Scuba Jul 2014 #27
great toon yurbud Jul 2014 #46
Yep 840high Jul 2014 #55
I do think we need to do our best to pull the party to the left, but.... LiberalLoner Jul 2014 #28
I think there's a very good chance we might get some good speeches, and maybe a few crumbs. stillwaiting Jul 2014 #29
Check out what I said above #20. and take part. MAKE IT HAPPEN IN YOUR LIFETIME! Dustlawyer Jul 2014 #49
in a very minor way, the Rush Limbaugh/Sandra Fluke example is instructive yurbud Jul 2014 #62
Sacrificing Cantor and maybe McConnell will be high profile enough to fool enough of us... stillwaiting Jul 2014 #63
No. Springslips Jul 2014 #67
in that sense, they lose either way. You could be right that would have been the crack that burst yurbud Jul 2014 #68
A pair of what? brain tumors? Schema Thing Jul 2014 #32
I agree. The Democrats have little to offer if you're not part of the 1%. And that goes double for blkmusclmachine Jul 2014 #33
We need to stop only looking at general elections jeff47 Jul 2014 #35
"Hillary is a conservative warmonger ideologically indistinguishable from Dwight Eisenhower"???!!! bvar22 Jul 2014 #37
+1000!!! unrepentant progress Jul 2014 #38
What To Do colsohlibgal Jul 2014 #41
but but but Ralph Nader! Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #42
I wish Hillary were as progressive as Eisenhower. DLCers are slightly to the right of Richard Nixon yurbud Jul 2014 #45
So who's dumping in the tens of millions to float this new progressive party? Blue_Tires Jul 2014 #50
Wow libodem Jul 2014 #51
K/R Thank you 840high Jul 2014 #52
I simply don't get this point of view. BillZBubb Jul 2014 #56
Just to enter into the record, work off of this list. Thinkingabout Jul 2014 #57
What alternative can get elected? Agnosticsherbet Jul 2014 #58
Ted Rall, better stick to cartoons... Historic NY Jul 2014 #59
the only thing shittier than his writing is his cartoons nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #65
No True Scotsman much? nt Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2014 #61
Ted Rall is an assholitarian, not a progressive. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #64
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