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davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
14. I think war is unlikely, at this time.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:28 AM
Jun 2016

One thing to consider is Russia's rather severe economic issues... frankly, I'm not convinced that they have the funding to maintain any sort of military campaign against a major power. Another issue, which perhaps should concern us more... is the age of their weapon systems - and particularly their nuclear weapons. Most of them probably will simply not work. This is not like the days of the cold war, Russia has neither the economic power, nor the military technology to wage war against the west with any level of success.

I do not think they will attempt to do anything without both financial and military support from China - and the US and our allies may be rattling the sabers while Putin shakes his - but...

The time in which major powers could go to war with each other without mutually assured destruction has passed. No one, not even Putin, wants to risk that.

A ground invasion of Russia would be worse than a nightmare - and a ground invasion of the US... if they could land here to begin with, would be the same. I suppose there are motivations, benefits to be gained in dominating some of the world's resources, more land and so on... but none of these powers involved are stupid enough to actually go to war. Not yet. If Trump becomes President, we may have to rethink that. If Putin does, somehow, moronically invade Poland (I suspect Putin is too smart to do this), we may have to rethink that.

Massing on the borders though? Doesn't mean much. Nations in conflict (though not at war) have been doing this since before the Roman Empire was built. It only rarely leads to actual war.

I know, The Russians have been swarming their borders for over a year. Thank goodness NATO is up.... marble falls Jun 2016 #1
You seem to have somehow... Mr_Jefferson_24 Jun 2016 #3
That promise has been widely reported. Igel Jun 2016 #19
You should probably drink... Mr_Jefferson_24 Jun 2016 #4
So what are you saying? Darb Jun 2016 #5
Was the US prepared to... Mr_Jefferson_24 Jun 2016 #13
ICBMs are defensive? Igel Jun 2016 #24
none of these are reasons why our government does anything yurbud Jun 2016 #32
Those missiles in Cuba were not "defensive". Darb Jun 2016 #40
All I really need to know about your source, a Russian government mouthpiece: marble falls Jun 2016 #6
Well spotted...the source says it all. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #8
The source was actually... Mr_Jefferson_24 Jun 2016 #10
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F._William_Engdahl marble falls Jun 2016 #39
Good thing we nominated the most bellicose candidate in party history Doctor_J Jun 2016 #36
Cohen is always a good interview...lot of knowledge...and a lot of attitude... islandmkl Jun 2016 #2
From Wikipedia on Stephen F. Cohen marble falls Jun 2016 #41
I agree. Mr_Jefferson_24 Jun 2016 #47
Massing military force on the Russian border... zeemike Jun 2016 #7
The presumptive candidates... ReRe Jun 2016 #16
Chickenhawk DissidentVoice Jun 2016 #26
I fear you are correct. zeemike Jun 2016 #28
Iron Lady syndrome... ReRe Jun 2016 #29
Come next week du will be one of the most pro-war sites on the internet. Doctor_J Jun 2016 #37
It is sad, is what it will be. eom ReRe Jun 2016 #38
Putin Cosmocat Jun 2016 #22
Remember that Putin is a former KGB Colonel DissidentVoice Jun 2016 #25
Interesting Post Cosmocat Jun 2016 #33
Well I don't think he has done anything that our own president would not do. zeemike Jun 2016 #27
Well Cosmocat Jun 2016 #34
Putin threw acid in someones face? zeemike Jun 2016 #35
None of us really know WHAT our government has done DissidentVoice Jun 2016 #44
No, not frightened yet. It seems you are the one who hasn't been paying attention. Nitram Jun 2016 #9
... MattSh Jun 2016 #15
Dictatorship: a country's resources benefit the dictator and his family and friends. Nitram Jun 2016 #21
Isn't a buildup to war just a reason to steal taxpayers' money? Without the problem, you don't have valerief Jun 2016 #11
I am more worried about the Hillary vs Bernie narrative. longship Jun 2016 #12
I think war is unlikely, at this time. davidthegnome Jun 2016 #14
I would hope Cosmocat Jun 2016 #23
All the world needs now is President 406-Boz Jun 2016 #17
They must have intercepted Putin's emails. Baitball Blogger Jun 2016 #18
I am frightened. I can't find a single independent reference to Intrepid Report. beastie boy Jun 2016 #20
Stephen Cohen, Russian Apologist Extraordinaire Norman Conch Quest Jun 2016 #30
After all those arms sales felix_numinous Jun 2016 #31
The Russian Threat: NATO Struggles to Recover after Years of Budget Cuts Lodestar Jun 2016 #42
A line in the sand...has been drawn laserhaas Jun 2016 #43
Once again you link to a source full of white supremacists & Kremlin-based conspiracy theories uhnope Jun 2016 #45
So? Let Putin put defensive missiles in Cuba, then. Who cares? Oneironaut Jun 2016 #46
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