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WillyT

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Tue Jan 5, 2016, 02:14 PM Jan 2016

Controlled By Shadow Government: Mike Lofgren Reveals How Top U.S. Officials Are At The Mercy Of The [View all]

Controlled by shadow government: Mike Lofgren reveals how top U.S. officials are at the mercy of the “deep state”
A corrupt network of wealthy elites has hijacked our government, ex-GOP staffer and best-selling author tells Salon

Elias Isquith - Salon
Tuesday, Jan 5, 2016 06:40 AM PST

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One of the predominant themes of the 2016 presidential campaign thus far — and one that is unlikely to lose significance once the primaries give way to the general election — is the American people’s exasperation with a political system they see as corrupt, self-serving, disingenuous and out of touch.

It is not an especially partisan or ideological sentiment; you can just as easily find it among supporters of Sen. Bernie Sanders as among fans of Donald Trump. You can even find those who support paragons of the status quo, like Hillary Clinton or Jeb Bush, making similar complaints. It’s about as close to a consensus position as you’re likely to find nowadays in American politics.

Yet despite the widespread agreement that something is seriously wrong with democracy in the U.S., there’s much less of a consensus as to what that something is — and, crucially, how to fix it. The answers Bernie Sanders offers, for example, are not exactly the same as those proffered by Donald Trump. Is the problem too much government? Not enough government? Too much immigration? Not enough immigration? Too much taxing and regulating? Not enough taxing and regulating?

Our lack of a systemic analysis of the problem is part of the reason why our answers are so diffuse and ill-fitting. And that’s just one of the reasons why “The Deep State: The Fall of the Constitution and the Rise of a Shadow Government,” the new book from ex-longtime GOP staffer turned best-selling author Mike Lofgren, is so valuable. Lofgren puts a name and a shape to a problem that has often been only nebulously defined; and while his conclusions are not exactly uplifting, the logic and sophistication of his argument is hard to resist.

Recently, Salon spoke over the phone with Lofgren about his book, the deep state and his read on the current sorry state of American government and politics. Our conversation, which also touched on President Obama’s relationship with the deep state, was edited for clarity and length:

How should we think about the deep state? Is it an elite conspiracy? A loosely defined social group? A network of specific institutions? How should we conceive of it?

Well, first of all, it is not a conspiracy. It is something that operates in broad daylight. It is not a conspiratorial cabal. These are simply people who have evolved [into] a kind of position. It is in their best interest to act in this way.

And given the fact that people would rather know about Kim Kardashian than what makes up the budget or what the government is doing in Mali or Sudan or other unknown places, this is what you get: a disconnected, self-serving bureaucracy that is … simply evolving to do what it’s doing now. That is, to maintain and enhance its own power.

When do you think the American deep state first started?

Probably, it started in WWII, when we had the Manhattan Project...


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Much More: http://www.salon.com/2016/01/05/controlled_by_shadow_government_mike_lofgren_reveals_how_top_u_s_officials_are_at_the_mercy_of_the_deep_state/



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I think the reason that Campaign Obama changed so dramatically when he took office is rhett o rick Jan 2016 #1
I Think You Are Correct !!! WillyT Jan 2016 #2
Well that's the easy part. What we do about it is the hard part. Some don't want to bother so they rhett o rick Jan 2016 #3
Sen Sanders can't change it but WE can. We have to force the congress to restrain the felonious five Vincardog Jan 2016 #6
I very much agree. We can't just get the Movement started and then sit back. We must fight on. rhett o rick Jan 2016 #8
^^ This right fucking here ^^ Scuba Jan 2016 #13
Campaign Obama was already in bed with Wall St. Unknown Beatle Jan 2016 #14
I tend to agree. His appointment of Rahmbo was a big clue that he wasn't the progressive we rhett o rick Jan 2016 #15
Ha, there are those who think... JackRiddler Jan 2016 #18
I've taken to calling those of us that love the truth, regardless of where it is found, the real DU bobthedrummer Jan 2016 #4
Agreed... WillyT Jan 2016 #5
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #7
Love Ya Man... WillyT Jan 2016 #9
Love you too, man. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #10
It started before the the Manhattan Project... Ichingcarpenter Jan 2016 #11
K and effing R Scuba Jan 2016 #12
ExPuke Lofgren thinks it's legal. Octafish Jan 2016 #16
Legal can be unconstitutional. JackRiddler Jan 2016 #19
Secret Government knows how to make a killing, and I mean fortune. Octafish Jan 2016 #17
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