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newthinking

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30. Depends on what they buy. TVs from China, not really. From Europe, yes
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 06:08 PM
Feb 2015

Bread, still less than 50 cents a loaf.

Your "take" won't work against me because I know people who are there and talk to them regularly.

One friend just bought a TV for their kitchen - They made the choice for once by a company called "Telefunken" (older German brand now made in Russia). Works great and cost them $100 (24&quot .

Some things have gone up, but not dramatically as you would like to think. In addition Russia has increased social programs to compensate. Housing programs have been increased dramatically.

Several friends I keep in regular contact with their family income more than doubled as all government jobs increased 2-3x in pay overnight. That also had carry over effects on private industry.

What is the purpose of trying to make something sound the way you want it to when it isn't fact? Does it feel better? I just don't get it. You are obviously not talking to anyone who is there?

There are a lot of storefronts closed (Mostly businesses headquartered in Ukraine that were forced to pull out (by Ukraine law)). But plenty of others remain in place.

If you have ever been to that part of the world you might know that they still have large centers of small family kiosks and stands everywhere and those are very good at finding sources and provide a buffer against international business whims. Even so, Russian department stores have moved in and still, interestingly, there are major Ukrainian appliance stores that have somehow managed to continue business (Ukraine was far more corrupt than Russia, likely "blot" is still a factor there)

Unfortunately, Russian aggression is not an entirely new thing. Turbineguy Jan 2015 #1
Yep it is an old saw salib Jan 2015 #12
The neocons screwed up Obama's foreign policy goals CJCRANE Jan 2015 #2
They work from "behind the scenes" now but remain very powerful newthinking Jan 2015 #3
Putin foiled the neo-con plans for Syria. polly7 Jan 2015 #4
That's exactly right newfie11 Jan 2015 #6
Invading Crimea and fomenting civil war in Ukraine are not aggression? hack89 Jan 2015 #7
Crimea wasn't invaded. polly7 Jan 2015 #8
Right. Got it. nt hack89 Jan 2015 #10
Careful... MattSh Jan 2015 #15
Good point. They dodged a bullet. polly7 Jan 2015 #16
too bad staying part of Ukraine was not a choice Duckhunter935 Feb 2015 #29
Actually it was, but to understand the choices you have to know the history of post soviet Crimea newthinking Feb 2015 #37
no the staus quo was not an option Duckhunter935 Feb 2015 #38
And there are still dishonest "reports" of "military on the streets" "enforcing order" newthinking Feb 2015 #21
tell that to the Crimean Tartars Duckhunter935 Feb 2015 #27
Oh yes, you mean those fundamentalists who were in contact with Al-qaida? newthinking Feb 2015 #31
do not forget prices are also much higher Duckhunter935 Feb 2015 #28
Depends on what they buy. TVs from China, not really. From Europe, yes newthinking Feb 2015 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Feb 2015 #32
Yeh, OK Duckhunter935 Feb 2015 #26
Do you even read the replies before you post? newthinking Feb 2015 #33
I replied to Polly, not you Duckhunter935 Feb 2015 #34
my bad. I followed the line down incorrectly newthinking Feb 2015 #35
we all make mistakes Duckhunter935 Feb 2015 #36
You mean like Prague, Chechenya, Afghanistan? Those meme filled Russian peace initiatives???? marble falls Jan 2015 #5
What part did Putin play in any of that? JayhawkSD Jan 2015 #11
Facts don't matter when you need someone to blame. nt. polly7 Jan 2015 #14
Try telling that to an Estonian LiberalEsto Jan 2015 #9
Sad, I used to come to DU to find information on current events that was not available anywhere 1monster Jan 2015 #13
no one is an angel. That's what makes propaganda so easy. But when it comes to aggression, yurbud Jan 2015 #17
Blame that on the rise of the tabloid/political media newthinking Feb 2015 #20
I'm perfectly willing to hear equal use of the phrase "American agression" cheapdate Jan 2015 #18
Putin never talked of reclaiming regions. That has been propaganda newthinking Feb 2015 #19
It's not propaganda to talk about Putin's conception of "Russian" cheapdate Feb 2015 #22
Are you saying it was not a catastrophe? newthinking Feb 2015 #23
It is entirely possible to construct a pro-Russian narrative cheapdate Feb 2015 #24
Ukraine says the same thing - That all Slavs originated from their culture newthinking Feb 2015 #25
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