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In reply to the discussion: Man shopping for coffee creamer at Walmart attacked by vigilante for carrying gun he was legally per [View all]Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)The U.S. may not be as bad a police state as some countries, but it is a police state:
1) Law enforcement officers may commit murder with no real consequence.
2) The government spies on its citizen.
3) Torture is legal.
4) If you are declared an "enemy combatant" by the state you may be executed without trial.
5) People have been attacked by the state and imprisoned for exercising their 1st Amendment rights.
6) The writ of habeus corpus has been violated (despite the fact that the country is not at war or in a state of rebellion).
7) It is legal to execute someone who is innocent (see Collins v. Herrera)
8) Your right to remain silent can be used against you (see Sallinas v Texas).
9) Our prison system is a chamber of horrors, run for private profit.
10) You average police department is better armed than a World War II-era infantry company.
11) Confessions obtained under torture may be used against you.
12) Until this past week, law enforcement officers could simply seize your property/money without charge and keep it unless you could prove your innocence (a complete reversal of the burden of guilt) Despite this, state governments in many states still have and exercise this power.
I can on with another dozen examples, but I doubt I will convince you.