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11. loads of Eastern Europeans have the exact same stories about gypsies - because they're made up.
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 06:27 AM
Apr 2012

There's one that's told across several countries about how gypsies destroyed public housing that was so graciously given to them by the loving government. Every time you here it, it either happened in a neighbouring city, or it was just before the person telling the story was born, etc.

The real truth is that the Roma have been discriminated against in Europe for hundreds of years, and that discrimination goes on to this day. Just in the 90's, the city of Usti Nad Labem in the Czech Republic built a wall between the Roma and the Czech neighbourhoods, cutting off the Roma from the better parts of town and convenient shops and services.

Institutionalized racism is real and alive. Of course there is a disproportionate amount of petty crime committed by the Roma population of Europe, because petty crime is disproportionately carried out by the poor everywhere. Read some of the posts in this thread and substitute "Jew" or "black" for "Roma" or "gypsy" and see how you feel about the statements.

My dad got the whole "Beware of Roma, they're pickpockets." sakabatou Apr 2012 #1
Doesn't Roma culture glorify stealing from and ripping off non-Roma? Odin2005 Apr 2012 #2
Some do... Kelvin Mace Apr 2012 #3
That's like saying "doesn't white culture glorify genocide?" harmonicon Apr 2012 #8
That would be Naples Italy. Remmah2 Apr 2012 #31
I had quite an experience with the gypsy children in Rome many years ago. Voice for Peace Apr 2012 #4
If you see them coming (often with pieces of cardboard to shove under your nose so you do not see MADem Apr 2012 #5
I've had a couple of coworkers from Eastern Europe high density Apr 2012 #6
loads of Eastern Europeans have the exact same stories about gypsies - because they're made up. harmonicon Apr 2012 #11
Not "Italian children" but "gypsy children in Rome", huh? harmonicon Apr 2012 #9
Not ok for you to imply racism. Voice for Peace Apr 2012 #13
I think it's less ok to espouse racism than it is for me to point it out. harmonicon Apr 2012 #17
I was responding to someone whose father was travelling Voice for Peace Apr 2012 #20
How about this: "Watch out for thieves, if you're weird and paranoid like that." harmonicon Apr 2012 #21
I understand your point. Voice for Peace Apr 2012 #22
just want to make another point Voice for Peace Apr 2012 #23
to add to that... FreeBC Apr 2012 #32
The magazine created a complete illusion with its cover image: Judi Lynn Apr 2012 #30
I had a friend that lived in Germany that picked that up. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #7
A friend was victim on the Paris metro several years ago. trof Apr 2012 #16
From my own personal experience with them, I can tell you secondwind Apr 2012 #10
You know who else is still in New York though? The Jews!!!! harmonicon Apr 2012 #12
self delete Voice for Peace Apr 2012 #14
Is this racism? Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #24
No, and I got that from all of three sentences. harmonicon Apr 2012 #28
I was speaking of the naming of Jews as the culprits. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #33
My personal experience is the same. FreeBC Apr 2012 #18
But saying that makes you a racist, apparently. Odin2005 Apr 2012 #19
Taking your bad experience with a couple of people from an ethnic group and deciding that is ... ieoeja Apr 2012 #26
It's a right-wing populist magazine so Roma-bashing shouldn't be a surprise pampango Apr 2012 #15
I have spent a good bit of time around Gypsies and been robbed exactly ... ieoeja Apr 2012 #25
you're correct and mea culpa Voice for Peace Apr 2012 #27
right-wing rag posts racist fear mongering cover fishwax Apr 2012 #29
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