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59. Gun manufacturers have the same rights as every other manufacturer

Reply to NoJusticeNoPeace (Reply #58)

Sat Dec 13, 2014, 04:40 PM

Dec 2014

Try sueing Coors and Ford when a drunk driver kills your loved one.

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Parents of Sandy Hook victims planning lawsuit against gunmaker Bushmaster [View all] azurnoir Dec 2014 OP

Won't even make it out of the batters box. VScott Dec 2014 #1

I see two attorneys looking for some media attention. Ikonoklast Dec 2014 #10

So nobody should do anything then right. pasto76 Dec 2014 #38

How do the attorneys get past this? GGJohn Dec 2014 #41

Why does closure always seem to involve a lucrative payout? Nt hack89 Dec 2014 #68

A few simple reasons discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2014 #262

How much is each YarnAddict Dec 2014 #86

Perhaps they should do something beneficial rather than something futile Freddie Stubbs Dec 2014 #308

for what Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #2

The Bucks Come From Gun Purchases otohara Dec 2014 #8

I see you forgot to blame the person who did the killing. Ikonoklast Dec 2014 #11

amazing is it not Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #15

His Mother, His Shrinks otohara Dec 2014 #19

more killed by other means than Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #30

Always Downplaying Which Gun Is Used otohara Dec 2014 #98

Who here has said this is ok? GGJohn Dec 2014 #103

Just an observation, branford Dec 2014 #111

No, not OK Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #122

No more and less than "of course the firearm had no relevance... the shooter did it with his bare ha LanternWaste Dec 2014 #296

I disagree. An inanimate object has no agency. Adrahil Dec 2014 #346

We Are All To Blame otohara Dec 2014 #18

"you want nothing done" Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #13

I see you blame everyone and everything except the actual shooter. GGJohn Dec 2014 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author otohara Dec 2014 #107

Hey, let's start suing Jack Daniels for drunk drivers! Adrahil Dec 2014 #335

This message was self-deleted by its author otohara Dec 2014 #341

Not for the criminal actions of others hack89 Dec 2014 #342

This message was self-deleted by its author otohara Dec 2014 #345

Laws are how we legally define and categorize something hack89 Dec 2014 #347

This message was self-deleted by its author otohara Dec 2014 #348

Here is the problem hack89 Dec 2014 #349

And you can sue the hell outta the person who accidentally fired. Adrahil Dec 2014 #344

Bankrupt the bastards! RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #3

Can you show us an example of this advertising? Thanks. nt hack89 Dec 2014 #6

By advertising, I include youtube videos RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #17

I think this is what your friend is getting at... bobclark86 Dec 2014 #36

And those ads advocate mass killings? hack89 Dec 2014 #42

I'm just saying that's what it must be... bobclark86 Dec 2014 #49

Yes indeed she did. And how did that work out for her? calimary Dec 2014 #50

But do those ads promote the shooting of people? GGJohn Dec 2014 #51

Yes. As do ads promoting tactical weapons, sniper rifles, etc. Hoyt Dec 2014 #73

And they ain't promoting shooting people either. GGJohn Dec 2014 #75

I think they promote the subtle message that this is some sort of "solution." calimary Dec 2014 #84

There's lots of other uses for firearms besides shooting people, GGJohn Dec 2014 #89

What did she need the gunz for? (nt) stone space Dec 2014 #157

Recreational target shooting hack89 Dec 2014 #160

Amassing such an arsenal was kind of a... stone space Dec 2014 #161

how many weapons in that arsenal? Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #163

In hindsight? GGJohn Dec 2014 #164

Well, those with no foresight still have hindsight, I suppose. stone space Dec 2014 #170

Yeah, GGJohn Dec 2014 #172

In light of her son's mental illness, yes. hack89 Dec 2014 #178

I don't see any advertising the shooting of people. GGJohn Dec 2014 #43

How do these promote killing? Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #44

Interesting how some folks can see this ad... stone space Dec 2014 #280

Most folks, to be accurate. n/t beevul Dec 2014 #315

I'm sure that the ad seems perfectly normal to ammosexuals. (nt) stone space Dec 2014 #316

It seems perfectly normal to most people. beevul Dec 2014 #319

Uh...no. stone space Dec 2014 #320

A poll on an anonymous, admittedly left-leaning, expressly Democratic internet forum, branford Dec 2014 #323

It could be posted in bansalot Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #330

Uh yes. beevul Dec 2014 #324

Can you post a link to the Bushmaster using advertisement to promote killing? GGJohn Dec 2014 #9

By advertising, you can include youtube videos RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #16

I think not Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #21

Yeah, but if they didn't condone them RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #94

I doubt it Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #121

Epic Fail. GGJohn Dec 2014 #32

They can't link to one Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #33

No, but if the manufacturer thinks... RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #99

Now you're reaaallllyyyyy reaching. GGJohn Dec 2014 #105

In a sane world they would have been sued and bankrupted a long time ago... NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #52

Sued for what? GGJohn Dec 2014 #53

No RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #97

Sorry, but that's not a legal defense here. GGJohn Dec 2014 #102

OK Mr Barrister. RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #104

You can dream all you want, GGJohn Dec 2014 #106

OK Mr. Barrister RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #109

Your rationale is constitutionally impermissible. branford Dec 2014 #113

not to mention hunting for food Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #123

I'm am actually a commercial trial lawyer, branford Dec 2014 #110

Section 5A(ii) of the act exempts cases under negligent entrusment Gothmog Dec 2014 #366

The negligent entrustment theory is creative, but entirely unconvincing. branford Dec 2014 #370

on what grounds? Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #62

You do know, don't you, YarnAddict Dec 2014 #87

The gun was connecticut ban compliant. What negligence would you levy at them? X_Digger Dec 2014 #127

I would state RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #129

I would state Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #131

You would state a lie? The primary use of firearms is to collect dust in a gun cabinet.. X_Digger Dec 2014 #132

I would state abe1976 Dec 2014 #269

Sandy Hook topics always brings out the NRA with their false analogies. Knives & pointy sticks have TeamPooka Dec 2014 #334

So the actual death toll is irrelevant? The only thing that matters is what it was designed to do? hack89 Dec 2014 #343

I did not say that, but I like how you try to make a straw man argument. So pathetic. nt TeamPooka Dec 2014 #350

You are the one that dismissed knives as murder weapons hack89 Dec 2014 #351

I merely pointed out knives have non-lethal uses. You have termed that "dismissing them as murder TeamPooka Dec 2014 #352

You gave knife manufacturers a pass in regards to the criminal use of their products hack89 Dec 2014 #353

Your right. Other uses for a gun: It's a replacement for a small penis. TeamPooka Dec 2014 #354

You certainly represent the gun control side well hack89 Dec 2014 #357

An insulting PM and a penis reference hack89 Dec 2014 #359

"BTW, this is why your a bad debater." beevul Dec 2014 #360

Why is it that the pro gun control crowd always, inevitably, fall back on the penis reference? GGJohn Dec 2014 #363

Because its all they have left. N/T beevul Dec 2014 #365

It will be tossed out of court Lurks Often Dec 2014 #4

Oh, you can sue anybody for anything, pretty much, bobclark86 Dec 2014 #39

Best of luck! But I just don't see how a suit like can get anywhere. vkkv Dec 2014 #5

You can always trust lawyers to enrich themselves by exploiting tragedy. nt hack89 Dec 2014 #7

And the NRA and gun makers Doctor_J Dec 2014 #26

Oh how I wish there was an actual hell, there would be an entire wing for them NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #54

Oh, I could think of some of its members RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #100

I understand their wanting to make a point, but they'll lose very early in the game. n/t ColesCountyDem Dec 2014 #12

They'll be tied up in court for years bluestateguy Dec 2014 #14

The case will not be in court for years. branford Dec 2014 #108

I can assure you this law firm is not to be under estimated..they're well respected here in Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #20

How is the firearm manufacturer Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #22

The firm has not stated how they're liable and it is completely up to the families Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #27

I don't see them successfully suing the manufacturer. GGJohn Dec 2014 #40

Bet any way you like. The firm has not stated in what capacity Bushmaster is liable, yet. Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #64

See that's the problem with this frivilous lawsuit, GGJohn Dec 2014 #66

According to you. n/t Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #69

According to the law. GGJohn Dec 2014 #71

uh huh..because you're an attorney and know that wiki has convinced you..evidently, not Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #117

so what is the reason Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #77

You can't comprehend that you're uninformed due to the fact that the firm has not Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #119

I am not uninformed Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #128

Like I said, and will repeat once more...they have not stated their reasoning for liability claims. Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #133

nope Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #134

Why didn't they sue the bat maker? ripcord Dec 2014 #23

They go after who they believe they can make a case..that's how it works. Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #24

+1 BuddhaGirl Dec 2014 #25

I think so..I am very pleased too. n/t Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #28

Couldnt agree more...tell it and tell it loud and often, I say...Thank you, buddhagirl NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #56

You do realize this lawsuit will go absolutely nowhere don't you? GGJohn Dec 2014 #60

Might as well go after the NRA while they're at it... blkmusclmachine Dec 2014 #29

That wouldn't be such a bad idea. RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #101

"Forces of Opposition, Bow Down." stone space Dec 2014 #31

"Truly the most versatile and adaptive rifle ever conceived" BuddhaGirl Dec 2014 #34

Not one ACR has ever been used to kill anyone, anywhere, at any time. Ever. Ikonoklast Dec 2014 #55

Truly disgusting toy... NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #57

Not a toy. GGJohn Dec 2014 #63

Military-styled firearms are treated by way too many as elaborate, lethal toys. Paladin Dec 2014 #112

Although I won't disagree that some treat guns as "barbies for me" Adrahil Dec 2014 #336

not a toy Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #65

It's obnoxious and sickening BuddhaGirl Dec 2014 #67

Yes, indeed. sick sick sick NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #70

Not really, that's a pretty cool looking rifle. GGJohn Dec 2014 #72

but it looks scary Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #78

Great thing about the AR platform Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #46

It certainly has been proven effective with school children. (nt) stone space Dec 2014 #48

any object can be misused Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #61

Yeah, get back to us on that one...... Paladin Dec 2014 #168

Do you support banning any type of gun that could used in a Sandy Hook type shooting? hack89 Dec 2014 #180

Long on rhetoric and short on honest answers to hard questions. beevul Dec 2014 #314

How many people die each year due to alcohol abuse? Adrahil Dec 2014 #337

About time. What grounds? grahamhgreen Dec 2014 #37

No real legal grounds. Mixture of emotion and lawyer greed hack89 Dec 2014 #45

none, I think Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #47

Shaky, at best, given the absurd way our laws protect these manufacturers of death. NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #58

Gun manufacturers have the same rights as every other manufacturer hack89 Dec 2014 #59

They've been successful against bars, why not lethal weapons promoters? Hoyt Dec 2014 #74

The bars are more like gun dealers - they have direct contact with the purchaser hack89 Dec 2014 #76

They produced it and made it to excite gun lovers.. They knew exactly Hoyt Dec 2014 #79

So? GGJohn Dec 2014 #82

If that was the case you would think there would be a huge spike in deaths due to rifles hack89 Dec 2014 #88

Depends on your definition of "spike" and whether they use the AR or Hoyt Dec 2014 #115

Most people consider "spike" to mean "sharply increase" in this context friendly_iconoclast Dec 2014 #118

How about any increase regardless of gun type hack89 Dec 2014 #120

Lots of sick folks have been buying them, and practicing to shoot people. Hoyt Dec 2014 #130

Yet they don't appear to be actually shooting real people in increased numbers hack89 Dec 2014 #288

Handguns do concern me, but not your gun buddies. They keep adding to their collection and strappin Hoyt Dec 2014 #310

But even then the number of deaths is steadily decreasing hack89 Dec 2014 #317

Because of factors like better surveillance, aging population, etc. Hoyt Dec 2014 #332

So you admit that more guns doesn't equal more shootings? GGJohn Dec 2014 #333

So you are blaming the Patriot Act for less violent crime? hack89 Dec 2014 #338

Then sue the firearms dealer Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #81

There is a defect-- the guns are made to excite users' baser instincts. Hoyt Dec 2014 #85

That's not a defect that can be legally used in any lawsuit. GGJohn Dec 2014 #91

Belief in animism is strong amongst gun control advocates friendly_iconoclast Dec 2014 #95

LMAO. You guys can't walk out the door without a gun strapped to your body. Hoyt Dec 2014 #114

I don't own a gun. Your remote viewing abilities are on a par with your cosmology friendly_iconoclast Dec 2014 #116

I have firearms Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #124

I don't carry a gun. beevul Dec 2014 #235

Apparently you are not aware of... malokvale77 Dec 2014 #186

It's still not a defense that will work against firearms manufacturers. GGJohn Dec 2014 #189

Never say never. malokvale77 Dec 2014 #190

Not in this case, GGJohn Dec 2014 #192

First of all... malokvale77 Dec 2014 #198

My bad. GGJohn Dec 2014 #199

No harm, no foul. malokvale77 Dec 2014 #201

Do you realize that the "affluenza" case was a criminal matter branford Dec 2014 #196

Yes I do malokvale77 Dec 2014 #197

Nonsense like that is usually heard in regards to metal bands... friendly_iconoclast Dec 2014 #93

You know what excites my baser instincts far more than any of my thirty-nine firearms? sir pball Dec 2014 #137

Sounds to me this ad was aimed at folks just like you. Hoyt Dec 2014 #147

Ahhh, you're so cute. GGJohn Dec 2014 #148

That's a gun. That does nothing for me. I said that, pretty clearly. Now, where's the bike?! sir pball Dec 2014 #149

OK.. It takes 39 to get you excited. Hoyt Dec 2014 #150

Nah, it's just a collection. Most of them are nice and old fashioned, I just liked them. sir pball Dec 2014 #152

Cool video, GGJohn Dec 2014 #151

Going to watch the big drags was amazing. sir pball Dec 2014 #153

God, I remember when NHRA used to allow us to stand right there on the side of the track GGJohn Dec 2014 #154

I got snuck in to the line when I was a kid sir pball Dec 2014 #155

Good times my friend, GGJohn Dec 2014 #156

That idiot is Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #166

The only person likely to get killed in that video is the rider himself. EX500rider Dec 2014 #206

yes and no Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #210

Why this lawsuit will fail KinMd Dec 2014 #80

readiing the story Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #83

The guns were bought legally by Nancy Lanza KinMd Dec 2014 #90

Yep, and that's why this lawsuit will fail. GGJohn Dec 2014 #92

Yep Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #125

This case will go nowhere fast. branford Dec 2014 #96

Thank you Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #126

I've seen Boeing get successfully sued a number of times Blue_Tires Dec 2014 #270

have they had Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #274

There are actually specific laws and treaties that deal with airline liability branford Dec 2014 #286

A hint at where they may be going with this lawsuit, from Koskoff in 2013: Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #135

Yeah, no, they're going to lose this lawsuit big time. GGJohn Dec 2014 #136

An interesting theory that is, at best, premature and will go nowhere fast. branford Dec 2014 #139

Yea, I read your opinion and the other pro gun rights advocates in this thread. Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #140

I'm not a "pro gun rights advocate." branford Dec 2014 #141

You're not, eh? Interesting take you have. Yes, I noticed how often you have mentioned Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #143

Advice I got from an old attorney when I first started: COLGATE4 Dec 2014 #146

Just so you know LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #159

Except they won't succeed with this case. GGJohn Dec 2014 #142

How does that address the Op-Ed he wrote? What makes you think he is not aware of the law? Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #144

What I find difficult to understand is that these blood sucking lawyers GGJohn Dec 2014 #145

Blood sucking lawyers and you support laws designed to protect the arms manufacturer. Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #158

Same laws that protect the automobile industry, GGJohn Dec 2014 #162

The automobile industry is not protected that way, that is absurd to even suggest. Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #165

So you're telling us that the auto industry can be sued because someone uses GGJohn Dec 2014 #167

I think you're lost as to what the Op-Ed Koskoff wrote is suggesting...they are not going after the Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #169

I read the op-ed and even they admit that the chance of a successful GGJohn Dec 2014 #171

Again, Koskoff admits no such thing..that is the opinion of the blog host, who acknowledges Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #173

As I said, the law is crystal clear on this GGJohn Dec 2014 #174

They don't agree with you...thankfully. n/t Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #175

Fine , they don't agree, GGJohn Dec 2014 #176

You're certainly free to root for the Remington Outdoor Company..no law against that. n/t Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #177

"They believe themselves largely immune from product liability lawsuits"... VScott Dec 2014 #179

Blame the Brady family..how nice of you. You're part of the problem, not the Bradys. Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #191

Not the Brady family, the Brady Org. GGJohn Dec 2014 #194

Since when is the Brady family not supportive of the Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #195

There are many products that are not lancer78 Dec 2014 #331

Wish they'd sue Alex Jones for instigating harassment of victims' families Adenoid_Hynkel Dec 2014 #138

Gunner trash rejoice that these families have no recourse alcibiades_mystery Dec 2014 #181

Nobody's rejoicing here, GGJohn Dec 2014 #182

you were alerted on. malokvale77 Dec 2014 #183

Jury Results: 99Forever Dec 2014 #184

I would laugh, but the whole damn thing is too sad alcibiades_mystery Dec 2014 #185

I was Juror #3. 99Forever Dec 2014 #188

You do realize that there are many Democratic and very liberal gun owners branford Dec 2014 #193

I realize that I and many others are damn tired of being held hostage... 99Forever Dec 2014 #200

How civil of you Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #204

Don't care. 99Forever Dec 2014 #218

Like the President Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #222

A swing and a miss. 99Forever Dec 2014 #224

and how is that? Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #228

I've been called a "gungrabber" here on multiple occasions. stone space Dec 2014 #271

that ranks right up there with shithead and murderer Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #273

Let's be clear on what is meant by the epithet, "gungrabber". stone space Dec 2014 #277

As a rule, I don't interact with gunner trash alcibiades_mystery Dec 2014 #207

yes like not calling people names like shithead and trash Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #211

Very revealing, GGJohn Dec 2014 #214

correct Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #217

What a bucket of nonsense. beevul Dec 2014 #219

Save for your gunner pals... 99Forever Dec 2014 #221

Youre entitled to your opinion... beevul Dec 2014 #226

You damn straight I'm entitled to my opinion. 99Forever Dec 2014 #230

and so are we Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #233

You're held hostage by the NRA, branford Dec 2014 #234

I for one Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #225

it is sad Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #203

Not every criminal act provides ready or easy civil recourse. branford Dec 2014 #187

link to one just one Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #202

They were sued by the Beltway sniper victims and settled BeyondGeography Dec 2014 #205

You're forgetting that the DC Sniper killings took place in 2002, before the passage of GGJohn Dec 2014 #208

That didn't keep Cerberus from dropping the co. like a hot potato BeyondGeography Dec 2014 #209

Irrelevant. GGJohn Dec 2014 #212

We'll see BeyondGeography Dec 2014 #213

Oh I very much doubt that they're squirming, GGJohn Dec 2014 #216

Squirming? The level of armchair lawyering is outrageous. branford Dec 2014 #232

They'll squrm for non-legal reasons BeyondGeography Dec 2014 #242

Firearm sales skyrocketed after Newtown, including in blue CT, branford Dec 2014 #265

So did bans of the AR 15 BeyondGeography Dec 2014 #266

I'm well aware of New York law and politics. branford Dec 2014 #268

I remember that..recalling Bushmaster at the time: Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #215

Wall Street Firm Hasn't Sold Off AR-15 Maker Despite Newtown Promise Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #220

How awesome for you guys...touche. n/t Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #231

I love this part... beevul Dec 2014 #223

Wrong, you might want to do some research Lurks Often Dec 2014 #227

and make lots of money on it. Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #229

Do you thank George W. Bush, also? stone space Dec 2014 #281

Might want to look in the mirror Lurks Often Dec 2014 #282

Look in the mirror? stone space Dec 2014 #283

It means that gun control extremists Lurks Often Dec 2014 #284

What does this have to do with thanking George W. Bush? stone space Dec 2014 #285

You missed the point. branford Dec 2014 #287

I think it was posted to me by mistake. stone space Dec 2014 #289

No mistake Lurks Often Dec 2014 #290

OK, a comment posted to a random gun control advocate... stone space Dec 2014 #292

A USA gun control extremist is just a normal person in most of the civilized world NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #302

USA gun control extremists are usually rude Lurks Often Dec 2014 #306

Rude LOL oh my god, the people who are against guns slaughtering people are the rude NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #311

Get back to me when you have a realistic plan to change things Lurks Often Dec 2014 #313

Are you under the impression that being "against guns slaughtering people" makes one incapable... beevul Dec 2014 #321

Once bitten... VScott Dec 2014 #238

snip* No other industry in the country benefits from such special legal protection. Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #236

How are the practices of the firearms industry negligent? GGJohn Dec 2014 #237

No industry should be afforded such protection under the law..they have gained Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #239

You said the industry is negligent, I asked how, GGJohn Dec 2014 #240

Where did I say they were negligent? In regards to what..their lack of safety measures? Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #241

I'm sorry, you didn't say they were negligent, GGJohn Dec 2014 #244

A special priviledge law to protect gun manufacturers, designed by Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #246

Cities attempting to do an end run around the 2A by using SLAPP suits GGJohn Dec 2014 #248

You imagine they would allow themselves to be sued into oblivion? You can't be serious. Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #250

but that is not what the objective was Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #255

I don't know that to be an accurate account of their end goal. Reagrdless, the gun lobby Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #258

If this current lawsuit is evident of anything... VScott Dec 2014 #243

Repugnant opinions like yours are rampant in this thread. Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #245

"any day now" Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #247

You can read, correct? So don't quote me and then get it wrong. Those are your words, not mine. Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #249

never said they were your words did I? Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #251

Then don't use quotes in your response..would appreciate that. n/t Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #252

quote was from other DU members Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #253

You're not being asked to censor yourself..you are being asked to be accurate...not hard.n/t Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #254

"Then don't use quotes in your response..would appreciate that" Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #256

You're serious? ok..it means, I would appreciate you not misquoting me. n/t Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #257

well, since I did not quote you in the first place Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #261

THE TIDE IS TURNING!!! VScott Dec 2014 #259

Do you guys freak out over every single mention that your control of the Congress Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #260

"Freaking out" am I (we) now? VScott Dec 2014 #263

More relaxation, repealing of existing gun control laws, etc. Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #264

yup, gun humping freaks WON Skittles Dec 2014 #380

Some industries have received protections similar to the PLCAA branford Dec 2014 #267

Um...Tobacco? stone space Dec 2014 #275

I mentioned tobacco companies in a previous post VScott Dec 2014 #299

Make the gun manufacturer explain mmonk Dec 2014 #272

They do not control magazine size Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #276

Have them explain it. mmonk Dec 2014 #278

Why should they have to explain anything? GGJohn Dec 2014 #293

A lawyer will not be seeking that approach. mmonk Dec 2014 #297

They can try to seek that approach, but it will fail. GGJohn Dec 2014 #298

That is where we disagree. I think it will mmonk Dec 2014 #301

The PLCAA is pretty clear on this, GGJohn Dec 2014 #303

No one is claiming it is a defect. mmonk Dec 2014 #339

That aftermarket manufacturers Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #329

So the real suit should be against the magazine maker hack89 Dec 2014 #291

The state of Connecticut, through their AWB, said the number of rounds fired was legal hack89 Dec 2014 #294

I'm just gonna hide from the inevitable shit-storm between... Odin2005 Dec 2014 #279

Regardless of outcome, I see this as a positive action LanternWaste Dec 2014 #295

The litigants reasoning for suing Bushmaster VScott Dec 2014 #300

Yeah, that's going to be laughed out of court real fast. GGJohn Dec 2014 #304

The case has been filed and the complaint is available online. branford Dec 2014 #305

Judging by what I'm reading in you post, GGJohn Dec 2014 #307

It has the potential to backfire. branford Dec 2014 #309

With the challenges to the NY & CT gun controls having been heard by the 2nd Circuit of Appeals Lurks Often Dec 2014 #312

If I had to guess, branford Dec 2014 #318

Case was filed in state court with non-diverse instate necessary party defendants Gothmog Dec 2014 #367

It will end up in federal court if not tossed out Lurks Often Dec 2014 #369

There is no diversity or federal question Gothmog Dec 2014 #372

Since neither Bushmaster or the distributor have a presence in CT Lurks Often Dec 2014 #374

You have to have complete diversity for diversity jurisdiction Gothmog Dec 2014 #376

I'm going to side with the trial attorney who has already posted Lurks Often Dec 2014 #379

"met all federal regulations and CT's assault weapons ban standards" wordpix Dec 2014 #322

CT's Assault weapons standards has more to do with the design and features of the weapon, GGJohn Dec 2014 #325

Assuming you story is accurate, how does it affect my legal analysis? branford Dec 2014 #326

nothing wrong with your analysis, just saying don't look to the state wordpix Dec 2014 #355

Discussing AR15's is a red herring. branford Dec 2014 #356

open carrying with no one checking permits is illegal in CT wordpix Dec 2014 #362

If the area is a lawful gun range, I assume the open carry would be perfectly legal branford Dec 2014 #364

Such bans almost always have exemptions.... Adrahil Dec 2014 #340

Questions, counselor. VScott Dec 2014 #327

I do not believe that the lack of reference to the PLCAA is a defect in the complaint, branford Dec 2014 #328

If negligent entrustment cases are exempted from PLCAA then why would pleading mention this? Gothmog Dec 2014 #368

I give no credence to loonies with conspiracy theories. branford Dec 2014 #371

The relevant exemption is Section 5A(ii) Gothmog Dec 2014 #373

Who did Bushmaster negligently entrust to? branford Dec 2014 #375

I read Prof. Volokh's article and he does not address the statutory issue Gothmog Dec 2014 #377

I, too, do not practice in CT, and am uncertain as to whether interlocutory appeals are allowed. branford Dec 2014 #378

Wonder if they realize the firearms weren't sold to the shooter? ileus Dec 2014 #358

FYI, here is a recent analysis of the lawsuit from Eugene Volokh at the WP. branford Dec 2014 #361