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truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
60. I was in the trenches regarding the voting situation back in 2004 -
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 12:51 PM
Oct 2014

And the Democratic "Leaders" dismissed all the information about the electronic voting systems being controlled.

With some few exceptions, such as The Black Caucus in Congress, the work of Barbara Boxer to join with that caucus to protest what happened to the ballots in Ohio - and some people like Bill Bradley and Lynn Woolsey - the Democratic Party meme was that they didn't want to rock the waters and so no one even stopped to scold John Kerry for surrendering his position within a mere twelve hours after Andy Card announced the election went to his boss, George W Bush.

He had promised Democratic voters he would never concede within a day of the election, that he had an army of lawyers to contest any inappropriate activity regarding the voting situations, etc, but he quickly forgot all that. And the only reason that there were voting re-counts in Ohio was on account of the efforts of Ralph Nader and David Cobb, both of whom arranged for $ 100,000 to arrive in Ohio to set up the vote recounts!

It is wrong for the media to say it was the fault of both parties that the government shut down last Autumn, as it was only the republicans fault. But the Democratic Leaders are either stupid or "Vichy" collusionists regarding the way they have ignored the gerrymandering, and the electronic voting machinery. The Democratic Leadership knew years ago that the gerry mandering was going to happen, and they let it happen, and now they are all "Oh my God! There has been gerrymandering!" Since the Dems had control of the House from 2007 on, and after that they held the US Senate, with Obama as President from January of 2009, they really have no excuses - they were the damn Party in power, but they didn't care to stop the gerrymandering! And looking at the bank accounts of those Party Leaders who are handling things, they are not stupid.



Your "edit to note" is the most important part of your post. Thanks for posting. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #1
Unknown Senator giving political talk in Midwest says Game is Rigged Jackpine Radical Oct 2014 #12
I've heard that the Washington Post is now at least 50% Republican-owned. Cal33 Oct 2014 #31
in any event it's becoming progressively more unreadable. redruddyred Oct 2014 #51
WatdahelzamatterU? Ink costs money. Hoppy Oct 2014 #2
agree totally oldandhappy Oct 2014 #3
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Oct 2014 #4
She's wrong ... both parties are the same!!! JoePhilly Oct 2014 #5
Seems that on DU the loudest voices cheering Warren on are saying the same thing. baldguy Oct 2014 #9
totally bogus statement beachbum bob Oct 2014 #6
A couple of points here--or maybe 5 off the top of my head: Jackpine Radical Oct 2014 #15
I don't believe Nader made any difference. olddad56 Oct 2014 #26
The Republican Party was one of the tools used to rig the game, yes. Orsino Oct 2014 #7
Talk about not taking the long view. baldguy Oct 2014 #10
The Democratic is holding the barbarians off the gate? Orsino Oct 2014 #18
Painting both parties as the same just helps the people you're complaining about. baldguy Oct 2014 #21
Refusing to recognize a common dysfunction helps the people I'm complaining about. n/t Orsino Oct 2014 #23
And the Koch Bros are perfectly happy to have you blame their crimes on Democrats. baldguy Oct 2014 #27
The problem is much bigger than that. Orsino Oct 2014 #35
Please see Sen Warren's quote titling the OP baldguy Oct 2014 #41
Millions of people are to blame, including me and possibly even you. Orsino Oct 2014 #55
WAPO is going for the CT crowd. Warren is right, and they censored her words. Typical RW crap. freshwest Oct 2014 #8
........ daleanime Oct 2014 #11
Shame on you, WAPO. littlemissmartypants Oct 2014 #13
wall street rigged it for themselves. the democrats became vichy to survive. pansypoo53219 Oct 2014 #14
^^^^^^^^^^^^n't truedelphi Oct 2014 #17
But until Democratic Leadership starts to actually care, truedelphi Oct 2014 #16
So, Warren is wrong! TomCADem Oct 2014 #24
She could have added the coda "and we let them" marshall Oct 2014 #28
I was in the trenches regarding the voting situation back in 2004 - truedelphi Oct 2014 #60
For All Our Sakes...Dump Hillary! billhicks76 Oct 2014 #19
I agree ..and we liberals would have to dig deep to finance her camapign INdemo Oct 2014 #45
Yes!!! billhicks76 Oct 2014 #47
Nothing gets my dander up quicker than hearing someone say the parties are the same madokie Oct 2014 #20
+1000 baldguy Oct 2014 #22
Exactly, its part of the corporate media false equivalency meme! TomCADem Oct 2014 #25
The neo-liberal contingent of the Democratic Party is FISCALLY the same as the GOP. NorthCarolina Oct 2014 #29
Even fiscally most Democrats don't have a "shrink the government, cut taxes for the rich" mentality pampango Oct 2014 #32
Perhaps not NorthCarolina Oct 2014 #40
Objectively false. Social policies are objectively economic policies. joshcryer Oct 2014 #50
Beware. Declaring there is no difference in the parties is a tactic to surpress the vote. Maineman Oct 2014 #33
That is the slight difference between the two . geretogo Oct 2014 #39
There's no difference in saying there's "no difference" or a "slight difference". baldguy Oct 2014 #53
You know, this accusatory crap gets pretty damned old. woo me with science Oct 2014 #42
I think a lot of people are sick of the wars in the middle east. redruddyred Oct 2014 #52
"Drilling and fracking? Both parties support it." RiverLover Oct 2014 #54
Had to be said. (eom) CanSocDem Oct 2014 #58
Yes, the accusatory crap gets really, really old. woo me with science Oct 2014 #43
Those poor Republicans. joshcryer Oct 2014 #49
no they are not the same but INdemo Oct 2014 #57
Certainly rigged. The riggers are those who donate labor and money to corporations. raouldukelives Oct 2014 #30
I watched the master " rigger " Ronald Reagan using his rigging tools in 1980 , his disciples have geretogo Oct 2014 #34
I've been saying that day after day for over a year. Yet, ballyhoo Oct 2014 #36
Let me put it this way: If the Repubs. were to win both Houses and the Presidency in 2016, there Cal33 Oct 2014 #37
Your probably right geretogo Oct 2014 #38
Well, Cal33, I hope you are right, but I fear you are wrong. Progressive ballyhoo Oct 2014 #46
Do you think people like Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders...etc... would ever Cal33 Oct 2014 #56
Sorry for the mistake on my post. You picked up what ballyhoo Oct 2014 #59
Check this out too INdemo Oct 2014 #44
But democrats are no better! joshcryer Oct 2014 #48
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