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bravenak

(34,648 posts)
79. I am against the slaughter i see on my screen.
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 07:57 AM
Jul 2014

When i see the bodies of hundreds of women, children, and civilians piling up in a weeks time, i tend to blame the guys pulling the trigger. With all of the money and equiptment we help pay for, i should not see babies wrapped in cloth by the dozens by people i generally respect.

I have not seen the IDF stop killing civilians since they made that 'mistake' on the beach in Gaza. I have seen a ramp up of the killing of innocents. Nearly a hundred in one day. That is not a precision excersize. On top of that, we have Israeli politicians and supporters blaming the victims for not getting out of the way of the bombs. They have no where to go. They have no weapons of similar caliber to fight back with. The destruction is now very lopsided.

I cannot support a military force who kills children to get to a missile. I cannot support a nation in a military excersize when they are dropping bombs on hospitals and killing whole families, many of whom have absolutely nothing to do with Hamas. Never become the people you are fighting against. Always be better than the 'bad' guy, otherwise you will wake up one day and find out that you are now the bad guy. 500 people dead so far and most of them are civilians. Civilians greatly outnumber fighters in the morgue. How can i support that with a clear consience when i could not support the drone strikes that my own nation does?

The extreme right wing holds sway in the Israeli government at this time, and that is the catalyst fir the outpouring of support for Palestine. Not for one day during my lifetime has Palestine been free of Israeli control and various methods of oppression.

At one time Israel was the underdog in the world and we all supported them. They are now the mighty and Palestine is the underdog. They need my support much more than Israel at this time. Their homes and hospitals and schools are being destroyed in Gaza. Their lives are crushed. Their children and mothers are dying in rubble from bombs dropped on them by the IDF. I shall not condemn civilians for hating the military force who are at this time dropping bombs on their children. I rage with them with every broken, limp, child pulled from the rubble.

We are living in a modern age and i expect much more from our allies than to kill many more civilians than enemy fighters in a 'precision' operation. I expect the government of Israel to be as good and fair and caring as they say they are. The longer i go seeing the venom displayed by the people dropping bomb on hospitals towards the people they just killed, the more disheartened i feel and the more disconnected i feel from the killers. I am not a killer. I am not a hater. I will never kill a child to get to a bad guy. I would cover that child with my own body and protect them from the bad man. Even if i die. Thats what adults do for children if they love children. You have to love ALL the children. Not kill them. Killing thm hurts all of us. Those children are the worlds children, not the IDF's children to collaterally kill. It must stop now.


I also fear that this time, with the advances in social media and the awareness of humanity on issues of war, this will hurt Israel much more than Netanyahu believes. The world will lose trust in Israels leaders and it makes MY nation look terrible for providing the weaponry. We already made huge mistakes in our wars in the middle east, killed so many. This need to stop. Now. And Israel needs to take a look at their policies and government and make some big changes to their leadership.

And, to be clear, that's from the official IDF Twitter account muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #1
Saddened by this tragedy. yeoman6987 Jul 2014 #76
what a sad world heaven05 Jul 2014 #2
That happens to invading soldiers sometimes. n/t Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #3
Didn't read the details, but YarnAddict Jul 2014 #4
You totally made that up and you know it. The Stranger Jul 2014 #65
Invading their own country? shenmue Jul 2014 #5
Headline says "killed overnight IN GAZA." Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #7
Didn't know Gaza was a country shenmue Jul 2014 #9
Are you being paid or working propaganda for free? kickysnana Jul 2014 #11
The pro-Israeli propaganda has its contradictions. JackRiddler Jul 2014 #13
Right, officer friendly in a tank. n/t kickysnana Jul 2014 #14
Those are soldiers Billy Budd Jul 2014 #35
A lie. former9thward Jul 2014 #38
Israel considers Palestinians Untermensch subhumans Billy Budd Jul 2014 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author cerveza_gratis Jul 2014 #52
77 percent Billy Budd Jul 2014 #40
Because Hamas purposely put them in harms way. former9thward Jul 2014 #42
WHERE the HELL are they supposed to go? ChairmanAgnostic Jul 2014 #55
Well, they could camp out on the beach NickB79 Jul 2014 #61
A beautiful brother went looking for his family in the death zone... countryjake Jul 2014 #60
If your country is being attacked, christx30 Jul 2014 #15
Just joshing are you? 3auld6phart Jul 2014 #30
For a minute there I thought you meant the 13 soldiers. JackRiddler Jul 2014 #36
when is Israel going to stop land thieving ? Billy Budd Jul 2014 #41
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So stealing land and killing kids is okay? bravenak Jul 2014 #70
This message was self-deleted by its author cerveza_gratis Jul 2014 #71
I want Israel to stop making excuses for killing civilians. bravenak Jul 2014 #72
This message was self-deleted by its author cerveza_gratis Jul 2014 #73
Killing children is wrong. Bombing hospitals is wrong. bravenak Jul 2014 #74
This message was self-deleted by its author cerveza_gratis Jul 2014 #77
I am against the slaughter i see on my screen. bravenak Jul 2014 #79
Oh bullshit. You go to where the land is you want to steal. The Stranger Jul 2014 #66
More details here shaayecanaan Jul 2014 #6
Looks like the same dynamic as the 2006 Lebanon incursion Strelnikov_ Jul 2014 #20
Hezbollah provided training after cast lead shaayecanaan Jul 2014 #44
Serves them right, damn terrorists flying overseas to take part in their Holy War ... Nihil Jul 2014 #81
cry me a fucking river d_b Jul 2014 #8
Try Aug 9 2006 jakeXT Jul 2014 #10
Fair enough will edit shaayecanaan Jul 2014 #45
We've lost quite a few more on several different days. bluedigger Jul 2014 #12
Beirut: bemildred Jul 2014 #46
I remember that one well. bluedigger Jul 2014 #47
It seemed like quite a few more to me. bemildred Jul 2014 #48
What did? bluedigger Jul 2014 #49
300 dead soldiers in one day, I thought we were talking about dead soldiers. nt bemildred Jul 2014 #50
The OP was more specific. bluedigger Jul 2014 #56
From the op: bemildred Jul 2014 #58
It's really hard to get numbers for a single day. bluedigger Jul 2014 #59
Yeah, WWI was just the last time mass charges against machine guns was considered a good idea. bemildred Jul 2014 #68
Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #16
Really. dhill926 Jul 2014 #18
Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #24
Good God, how can you say that? Jackpine Radical Jul 2014 #19
Because I don't feel sorry for those who get what's coming to them Downtown Hound Jul 2014 #21
I was a participant in a shameful war Jackpine Radical Jul 2014 #28
Not good. None of it is good. redwitch Jul 2014 #22
Grieving for them solves nothing either except to satisfy some misguided Downtown Hound Jul 2014 #26
I think everyone has the right to live. Including the Palestinian people. redwitch Jul 2014 #29
Gaza is a cage? SnakeEyes Jul 2014 #64
Quick points of fact JoDog Jul 2014 #78
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #23
It's really not that complicated Downtown Hound Jul 2014 #25
It be like that sometimes. bravenak Jul 2014 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author cerveza_gratis Jul 2014 #54
For good reason. bravenak Jul 2014 #69
Just sitting in awe reading these heartless,mean replies..................... Old Vet Jul 2014 #27
Me too. AngryDem001 Jul 2014 #34
You do realize Calista241 Jul 2014 #80
Not surprised at all leftynyc Jul 2014 #75
Question is, will this cause the operation to expand or contract daleo Jul 2014 #31
This is more than the total number of IDF killed in Pillar of Cloud and Cast Lead combined azurnoir Jul 2014 #32
There will be more, if this goes on. bemildred Jul 2014 #33
This will put pressure on Bibi geek tragedy Jul 2014 #37
Yep. bemildred Jul 2014 #43
Between the rest of the works and hardliners & settlers geek tragedy Jul 2014 #67
Israeli APC destroyed was a fifty-year old M113 shaayecanaan Jul 2014 #51
This wont play well back in Tel Aviv. DCBob Jul 2014 #57
Yeah. There's a new sherrif in town, Iran. harun Jul 2014 #62
The Body Count ltheghost Jul 2014 #63
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