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joshcryer

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46. The assessment fee is 0.11%.
Thu May 8, 2014, 12:48 AM
May 2014

That applies to all volume: http://www.cardfellow.com/blog/credit-card-processing-fees/

$1.9 billion * 365 * .11% = $763 million. And that's where the net comes from.

Their combined Russian revenue in 2013, at 0.1 percent of transaction volume, looks to have been about $724 million, although that may be a generous estimate: Mastercard says Russia accounts for 2 percent of its revenues, a mere $167 million in 2013.

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-05-06/the-biggest-loser-from-russia-sanctions-visa


To me $14 billion in income seems unreasonable though the math checks out, I don't think it's profit. For card holders that pay transaction fees (and not the assessment fee which applies to volume) it can go many different ways as per the link I provided, some may just have a flat rate, some make take a percentage, some may have holding fees, whatever. Those fees go to pay for the merchant system overall and I don't think could be considered "profit." Visa and Mastercard could be kicked out of Russia entirely and that merchant system would be used by other card companies, like Russia's nationalized card they're suggesting.
The "invisible hand" gets nailed. n/t jtuck004 May 2014 #1
Not exactly, but whatever makes you happy, I guess. nt EmilyAnne May 2014 #3
How do you say boo hoo? Jesus Malverde May 2014 #2
Cute davidpdx May 2014 #29
Really? I think it's Cha May 2014 #36
Well then again I'm in Korea so I'm used to the kind of over exaggerated gestures davidpdx May 2014 #49
do you happen to be Russian? you have this great love for mother Russia- snooper2 May 2014 #32
Just looking for my peace dividend... Jesus Malverde May 2014 #54
Yeah totally he must be a commie, you better shove some freedom Vodka down his throat... Obnoxious_One May 2014 #55
Financial chess....gotta love it. dixiegrrrrl May 2014 #4
Russian economy is going to tank The Second Stone May 2014 #5
The amount of time it will take to simply design the system will have a huge effect on EmilyAnne May 2014 #6
Nobody gives a hoot about the Ukraine, nobody knows where it is The Second Stone May 2014 #8
Pretty much. Which is sad for a whole different set of reasons. nt EmilyAnne May 2014 #9
And think of the hacking opportunities.... Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #51
Goodbye! DeSwiss May 2014 #40
"I'm king of the world!" Major Hogwash May 2014 #7
This new system will be used by the oligarchs to launder money. joshcryer May 2014 #10
my guess is the vast majority of the people are scared steve2470 May 2014 #13
I'd love to visit sometime - TBF May 2014 #23
Like they have a choice, josh.. but, here we have the net putinistias cheering on the Cha May 2014 #37
Umm... yeahhh... not happening. Fearless May 2014 #11
The banks will pay the deposit nilesobek May 2014 #12
They can hand over control to Russia and not pay the deposit. joshcryer May 2014 #14
Its a deposit covering 2 days of transactions dipsydoodle May 2014 #16
From the point of view of the accountants, it's a fee. joshcryer May 2014 #18
That is likely what the Russians are up to anyway davidpdx May 2014 #31
Indeed. DeSwiss May 2014 #41
I await the Snowden/Greenwald outrage on this...it makes money-laundering msanthrope May 2014 #15
$3.5billion? melm00se May 2014 #17
Visa and MC should Putin to get fucked. Adrahil May 2014 #19
Fuck the EU, Fuck Russia ... soon there will be nobody left to fuck /nt jakeXT May 2014 #20
So you advise paying this ridiculous deposit? Why? NT Adrahil May 2014 #21
Credit card companies referred to have no choice. dipsydoodle May 2014 #22
Are You Suggesting Credit Card Companies Make 700% Interest Yearly, Sir? The Magistrate May 2014 #24
No dipsydoodle May 2014 #25
Fair Enough, Sir The Magistrate May 2014 #26
Interest is monthly on liability, not daily on transaction. joshcryer May 2014 #34
If He Is Refering To the Charge On Transactions, Sir, The Figure Makes Sense The Magistrate May 2014 #35
No way they collect $14 billion in fees but only clear $750 million. joshcryer May 2014 #44
I Have No Idea, Sir, What the Actual Net From Russian Operations Is The Magistrate May 2014 #45
The assessment fee is 0.11%. joshcryer May 2014 #46
Thank You, Sir The Magistrate May 2014 #47
Sample link which provides details of charges here. dipsydoodle May 2014 #48
Interesting, Sir The Magistrate May 2014 #52
You're focusing on merchant fees. joshcryer May 2014 #53
Ya know, some things are more important than profit. NT Adrahil May 2014 #30
You ignore the other conditions: karynnj May 2014 #33
I Agree It Would Be Hard For the Companies To Go Along With This, Ma'am The Magistrate May 2014 #38
^^^thread win^^^ Jesus Malverde May 2014 #50
Wake up. n/t DeSwiss May 2014 #42
My mom's already on it. Jesus Malverde May 2014 #59
Snowjob reccomends Putin use Bitcoin. tridim May 2014 #27
Snowjob! Bwhahahaha!!! OMG that's so funny! OMG! I hate him more already! Obnoxious_One May 2014 #57
"the Russian magazine Snob reported" jberryhill May 2014 #28
''...Putin signed a law on Monday to create a rival national payment system.'' DeSwiss May 2014 #39
That new system is going to make the Healthcare.gov launch look immaculate. /nt Ash_F May 2014 #43
Sounds pretty fair to me, I hope Russia is succesful with their cashless transaction system. Obnoxious_One May 2014 #56
The language of Russia mystifies me polynomial May 2014 #58
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