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In reply to the discussion: Russia Is Preparing to Invade East Ukraine, Estonia Says [View all]geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)67. repeating the falsehood doesn't make it true.
You:
There were not Soviet special conscriptions from the Baltics to be employed at Chernobyl.
Reality:
http://www.apnewsarchive.com/1986/Paper-Says-Estonian-Conscripts-on-Chernobyl-Cleanup-Staged-Strike/id-f92d356d47a42b66c835b96f6d019d9b
Estonian conscripts on cleanup duty near the Chernobyl nuclear power plant staged a strike and scuffled with police, according to news reports in the tiny Soviet republic.
The content of a six-part series published in the Estonian newspaper Noorte Haal was reported here today by Toomas Ilves, an Estonian affairs expert for Radio Free Europe.
Ilves, in a telephone interview with The Associated Press, said the paper reported the conscripts rebelled briefly when told they would have to remain on the job near the damaged reactor longer than expected.
One of the four reactors at the Chernobyl plant exploded on April 26, killing 31 people and spreading radiation worldwide.
Ilves said the articles reported that the men were drafted abruptly for Chernobyl duty and indicated such conscription had taken place throughout the Soviet Union.
Estonia has about 1.5 million people and sits on the Baltic Sea, across from Finland.
The Noorte Haal reports said a group of Estonian conscripts went on strike and fought with police in June when they were told their tour of duty was being extended from two to six months.
The incident was brief and rumors about the ''uprising ... or whatever else it was being called'' were greatly exaggerated, according to Ilves' translation of the reports.
The articles were written by Tonis Avikson, whom Ilves said was a commentator for Noorte Haal sent to Chernobyl.
The Estonian conscripts were put to work in the stricken area washing houses and stripping topsoil, Ilves quoted Avikson's reports as saying.
Some of the conscripts became ill from radiation and from spending cold nights in tents, the reports added.
The content of a six-part series published in the Estonian newspaper Noorte Haal was reported here today by Toomas Ilves, an Estonian affairs expert for Radio Free Europe.
Ilves, in a telephone interview with The Associated Press, said the paper reported the conscripts rebelled briefly when told they would have to remain on the job near the damaged reactor longer than expected.
One of the four reactors at the Chernobyl plant exploded on April 26, killing 31 people and spreading radiation worldwide.
Ilves said the articles reported that the men were drafted abruptly for Chernobyl duty and indicated such conscription had taken place throughout the Soviet Union.
Estonia has about 1.5 million people and sits on the Baltic Sea, across from Finland.
The Noorte Haal reports said a group of Estonian conscripts went on strike and fought with police in June when they were told their tour of duty was being extended from two to six months.
The incident was brief and rumors about the ''uprising ... or whatever else it was being called'' were greatly exaggerated, according to Ilves' translation of the reports.
The articles were written by Tonis Avikson, whom Ilves said was a commentator for Noorte Haal sent to Chernobyl.
The Estonian conscripts were put to work in the stricken area washing houses and stripping topsoil, Ilves quoted Avikson's reports as saying.
Some of the conscripts became ill from radiation and from spending cold nights in tents, the reports added.
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As an Estonian-American, I can say that Estonia desperately needs NATO's protection,
LiberalEsto
Mar 2014
#5
Putin is a dictator who has crushed Russian democracy and is now invading a sovereign country.
uhnope
Mar 2014
#31
We don't kid ourselves about the tea party around here. They would do everything Putin is doing
okaawhatever
Mar 2014
#36
Easy, I'm absolutely neither. But you won't denounce a dictator, an invasion, or stick up for
uhnope
Mar 2014
#94
You are an apologist for the former Soviet Union, as witnessed by your unethical behavior
geek tragedy
Mar 2014
#47
No. The claim was that people from the Baltics were specifically conscripted to work at Chernobyl.
rdharma
Mar 2014
#83
And I provided a contemporaneous account backing that claim up and directly
geek tragedy
Mar 2014
#87
Strange, I never heard of the "special conscription practices" involving residents of the Baltics.
rdharma
Mar 2014
#32
Why? did the cleanup with the USSR's conscipts last that long in full force?
geek tragedy
Mar 2014
#44
He is telling the truth and you are the one who is LYING to cover for the Soviet Unions' abuses
geek tragedy
Mar 2014
#45
It's really bad form to accuse someone of lying and then lie yourself. It's really dumb
geek tragedy
Mar 2014
#52
your behavior of spreading falsehoods while claiming that the poster who is telling
geek tragedy
Mar 2014
#59
There were not Soviet special conscriptions from the Baltics to be employed at Chernobyl.
rdharma
Mar 2014
#65
they are denying that people in the Baltics were drafted specifically for Chernobyl.
geek tragedy
Mar 2014
#95
You are trolling, trolling trolling by suggesting that person is not telling the truth.
geek tragedy
Mar 2014
#77
I was in a position to know if that could have been used for political advantage against the USSR..
rdharma
Mar 2014
#88
Very tiring ......"cold war" fools who don't know what they're talking about. nt
rdharma
Mar 2014
#97
you claim to be an expert in conscriptions in Estonia in 1986. What job did you have
geek tragedy
Mar 2014
#62
then how pray tell could you possibly know whether an account from Estonia is
geek tragedy
Mar 2014
#74
So you were an agent/employee of the Soviet Union at the time this was happening?
geek tragedy
Mar 2014
#79
What was your job at the time? Did you have to clean-up? Just curious. There appear
okaawhatever
Mar 2014
#49
You should apologize for your sleazy behavior in this thread. That person is telling the truth,
geek tragedy
Mar 2014
#46
No logical endgame for US (western capitalist) caused instability using fascist thugs? Really?
rdharma
Mar 2014
#25
You've got it. IF theres no evidence, then the CIA hid it or altered it, therefore causing it
7962
Mar 2014
#114
You don't think a dictator named Putin leading a giant dictatorship is behind an invasion of Crimea?
uhnope
Mar 2014
#24
As I mentioned earlier in this thread, I am Estonian-American, with relatives in Estonia
LiberalEsto
Mar 2014
#48
"Russia needs Crimea for the same reason the Russian Empire needed it. A warm water port.." no
EX500rider
Mar 2014
#63
I like the old guy. Your head is for thinking, not just carrying our brain around. nt
okaawhatever
Mar 2014
#106
You do realize the music is playing in the background of the Ukrainian protesters too, right?
blackspade
Mar 2014
#112