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aggiesal

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64. Are you serious?

Fri Mar 7, 2014, 09:18 PM

Mar 2014

Why should they ship it anywhere? They can refine this sludge themselves.
There are currently 12 companies operating refineries in Canada.

Why are you advocating for this pipeline? Do you have some vested intertest
in having the pipeline operational?

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New Post-ABC News poll: Keystone XL project overwhelmingly favored by Americans [View all] geek tragedy Mar 2014 OP

Goddamn, the pusherman. The ones in office, and out. villager Mar 2014 #1

We need to educate our friends etc now bjobotts Mar 2014 #33

Too late to educate your friends. It's going to be approved and Putin is helping it get approved. kelliekat44 Mar 2014 #45

Face it. We have little to no sway on the rich puppets in DC. blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #56

It's an ex-communist plot! Mag238 Mar 2014 #94

But the fact is it will only support a handful of permanant jobs. They should re-do it with that grahamhgreen Mar 2014 #2

that's not the point of polling nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #6

People are for it because they think it means jobs and energy for America, if they knew grahamhgreen Mar 2014 #78

Yeah, but by the time they realize it... KansDem Mar 2014 #84

The same illusion was used to promote Gulf and Iraq wars. Mag238 Mar 2014 #95

34 permanent jobs. That's it. Tar sands sludge is what we get bjobotts Mar 2014 #35

Think of all the jobs created when there are spills! csziggy Mar 2014 #46

Most construction project jobs are temporary madville Mar 2014 #93

Are they asking the farmers and ranchers whose land the pipeline crosses ... nt MindMover Mar 2014 #3

Koch bros. stand to make $100 billion from this pipeline. bjobotts Mar 2014 #37

As much as I loathe the Kochs, that does not compute. Psephos Mar 2014 #61

The Koch brothers are aligned with the competing Enbridge system Sen. Walter Sobchak Mar 2014 #79

only 2!! Nebraska landowners are in court now. They will probably lose anyway. Sunlei Mar 2014 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author MindMover Mar 2014 #48

That's a bit cryptic. Could you elaborate? Mag238 Mar 2014 #96

Google it ... and then store it at NSA .... MindMover Mar 2014 #101

"Google it" is not a citation. Mag238 Mar 2014 #107

I do not know you and what your motivation is ... MindMover Mar 2014 #109

Why not post a link? Mag238 Mar 2014 #118

Despite opposition from some, I'm sure others have agreed. Just like took the money for fracking. freshwest Mar 2014 #62

This is a done deal. proudretiredvet Mar 2014 #4

This country is anything but a poll driven politics one. fleabiscuit Mar 2014 #17

I do not agree. proudretiredvet Mar 2014 #71

Ya, that's what I said. fleabiscuit Mar 2014 #141

They probably think that WE are getting the oil, also. pangaia Mar 2014 #5

I explained this to a tea party guy I know ... it blew his mind. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #91

Yes, it boggles the mind. pangaia Mar 2014 #98

I'd like to see the poll questions atreides1 Mar 2014 #7

All we'll get from this pipeline is the tar sands pollution.The tipping point. bjobotts Mar 2014 #39

How Toxic-ingly Sad grilled onions Mar 2014 #8

bullshit LiberalEsto Mar 2014 #9

you can bet the pipeline people will use this poll to make their case. except for the part Sunlei Mar 2014 #49

I seem to recall that at one time Americans also supported Downtown Hound Mar 2014 #10

Absolutely correct, and that is why the country is where it is today, and unfortunately will be for lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #16

People worldwide=not the smartest folks ever EX500rider Mar 2014 #18

Just remember, necessity is the mother of action so people are getting more involved bjobotts Mar 2014 #40

Help me out here...I support this project* psychopomp Mar 2014 #99

Oh please, spare me the bullshit about how this will help our economy Downtown Hound Mar 2014 #114

I'm not convinced psychopomp Mar 2014 #115

Even if I did those things Downtown Hound Mar 2014 #133

Oh and, 50 jobs? Downtown Hound Mar 2014 #134

Oh and, one more thing about your smugness regarding protester tactics Downtown Hound Mar 2014 #135

I wasn't generalizing psychopomp Mar 2014 #137

No, I'm not crazy Downtown Hound Mar 2014 #138

I've been in the streets psychopomp Mar 2014 #139

You sound like a tired old burnout Downtown Hound Mar 2014 #140

The maximum permanent jobs it will provide is fifty. Cleita Mar 2014 #123

I can't take this poll seriously Iliyah Mar 2014 #11

Yes, this is "manufactured consent." PSPS Mar 2014 #57

Would that be the same Washington Post and ABC that said Saddam had WMDs? Octafish Mar 2014 #12

it is a very bad habit to discount polling that contains unpleasant results nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #14

+1 n/t crim son Mar 2014 #106

what jobs?the pipeline is already built except for 2 nebraska farmers in court? Sunlei Mar 2014 #13

Who the hell are they asking? . . . aggiesal Mar 2014 #15

Well if you look at a existing map of US pipelines.. EX500rider Mar 2014 #21

Rail and truck may *be* more dangerous. freedom fighter jh Mar 2014 #25

Actually, that's my issue. They are sending the garbage they don't want to handle Cleita Mar 2014 #31

Are you under the impression they aren't already? Sen. Walter Sobchak Mar 2014 #80

And we kept it for our use. This is not for us. n/t Cleita Mar 2014 #88

Keystone XL is to feed the Gulf Coast Refineries Sen. Walter Sobchak Mar 2014 #89

Prove it. Cleita Mar 2014 #92

Look at a map Sen. Walter Sobchak Mar 2014 #111

I get it. You live in Canada. It's seems NIMBY is your real interest. Cleita Mar 2014 #119

The map proves that the refining capacity of the Gulf Coast is enormous Sen. Walter Sobchak Mar 2014 #121

I'm nobody. More knowledgable and informed people than I see this Cleita Mar 2014 #122

I don't have a clue what you're talking about Sen. Walter Sobchak Mar 2014 #127

I can't help you if you don't read your own newspapers then. n/t Cleita Mar 2014 #128

So it's bullshit, just as I suspected. Sen. Walter Sobchak Mar 2014 #129

You should ask yourself . . . aggiesal Mar 2014 #53

Well if my choice is they ship it to China for refining or Texas.. EX500rider Mar 2014 #59

Are you serious? aggiesal Mar 2014 #64

Fine they can refine it there, much better then China. EX500rider Mar 2014 #66

Great, I'm glad to see my way. ... aggiesal Mar 2014 #73

They already are, it's called the Trans Mountain Pipeline System, it is sixty years old Sen. Walter Sobchak Mar 2014 #81

Well....WTF? SoapBox Mar 2014 #19

Yup, you're right.. . aggiesal Mar 2014 #113

This is because the fossil fuel companies.... Swede Atlanta Mar 2014 #20

Big Oil companies money spent on propaganda making people act stupid SkatmanRoth Mar 2014 #36

And after the pipeline is built and gas is still crazy expensive NickB79 Mar 2014 #22

Most people don't know enough about the pipeline to think it's *not* a good idea meadowlark5 Mar 2014 #23

Yep. They think it will be used here. Not exported. NCarolinawoman Mar 2014 #27

Significant risk to the environment, but the promise of a few jobs, and that's OK??? arcane1 Mar 2014 #24

Damn Liberal media.. adavid Mar 2014 #26

Depends on whom they polled and how they did it. Cleita Mar 2014 #28

Do you trust ABC? BanzaiBonnie Mar 2014 #29

ABC/WaPo is a credible polling outfit. I don't play the "skewed polls" game. nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #30

It would be natural to have a "skewed poll" here. fleabiscuit Mar 2014 #38

the poll shows strong support for increasing the minimum wage and a slight edge geek tragedy Mar 2014 #41

Yes. To me it looks more like information gap problem with the pipeline. fleabiscuit Mar 2014 #43

i think people are desperate to see some kind of infrastructure built, economy sucks geek tragedy Mar 2014 #44

Any project that creates jobs, permanent or otherwise seveneyes Mar 2014 #32

Only 35 jobs created by approval of Keystone pipeline K lib Mar 2014 #34

just shows how many misinformed people there are in this country 4dsc Mar 2014 #42

Check it out. proverbialwisdom Mar 2014 #50

Oh no! Heavens to Betsey! What shall we do? bluestateguy Mar 2014 #51

The letter after the name means nothing much anymore. Both "D" & "R" chase the same BIG MONEY! blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #58

Seems to me that the poll results reflect how the mainstream media is failing riversedge Mar 2014 #52

Why should I believe a poll, which is easily manipulated? (Not saying this one is...) blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #54

Unfucking believable Politicalboi Mar 2014 #55

I wonder how our misinformed public would respond if they knew Keystone XL will RAISE gas prices? pa28 Mar 2014 #60

Exactly. This is all about getting a higher price for their commodity. Strelnikov_ Mar 2014 #63

With the wealthy owning our media and government... How... TheProgressive Mar 2014 #64

121,745,000 people voted in 2012. 1,002 people were polled here. intheflow Mar 2014 #67

1000 people polled doesn't make it invalid. Hop over to RCP and look at the sample size for some 24601 Mar 2014 #72

No perfect polls but a lot of imperfect, misleading journalism. intheflow Mar 2014 #74

and AMEN ... MindMover Mar 2014 #104

common sense hoosierlib Mar 2014 #68

But, but, but the Keysssssssstone Pipeline isss Ssssssssso Niccccccce! africanadian Mar 2014 #69

This poll underscores how badly the media... blackspade Mar 2014 #70

who paid for this poll? Follow the money back to the Koch Brothers. olddad56 Mar 2014 #75

I would imagine that a lot of misinformed people would support the pipeline... olddad56 Mar 2014 #76

If other polls follow this trend, then the answer is pretty clear. Tarheel_Dem Mar 2014 #77

Non-scientific of course sakabatou Mar 2014 #82

Lies, damned lies, and fucking polls. bitchkitty Mar 2014 #83

I think the main reason most people are pro-XL is because.. DCBob Mar 2014 #85

A nation of short term thinkers. undeterred Mar 2014 #103

Exactly! n/t markpkessinger Mar 2014 #125

Family values people who don't care if the world is a total trash heap undeterred Mar 2014 #126

+1 ... Nihil Mar 2014 #136

Propaganda works. Scuba Mar 2014 #86

So well that they don't even need a police-state.... Mag238 Mar 2014 #97

Is this the real info, or is this merely the usual propaganda pushed by Big Oil for profit? Cal33 Mar 2014 #87

The Post and ABC have no credibilty on this issue. greatlaurel Mar 2014 #90

and AMEN ... MindMover Mar 2014 #105

Thanks! greatlaurel Mar 2014 #108

Some day the media will recognize polynomial Mar 2014 #100

I don't believe it. Faux pas Mar 2014 #102

Oil guzzling nation Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2014 #110

Propaganda works Doctor_J Mar 2014 #112

A percentage of Americans believe "sunrise" and "sunset" are literal terms n/t IDemo Mar 2014 #116

Canadians are Americans...North Americans Demonaut Mar 2014 #117

I don't believe this, I don't believe 2 of 3 U.S. citizens/voters even know what it is or what it is Todays_Illusion Mar 2014 #120

Betcha it was worded in such a way that would lead to an approving Cleita Mar 2014 #124

bullshit. hopemountain Mar 2014 #130

They need to build it. Turbineguy Mar 2014 #131

Something from the Toronto Sun. Cleita Mar 2014 #132