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geek tragedy

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Fri Mar 7, 2014, 05:58 PM Mar 2014

New Post-ABC News poll: Keystone XL project overwhelmingly favored by Americans [View all]

Source: Washington Post

Americans support the idea of constructing the Keystone XL oil pipeline between Canada and the United States by a nearly 3 to 1 margin, with 65 percent saying it should be approved and 22 percent opposed, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

The findings also show that the public thinks the massive project, which aims to ship 830,000 barrels of oil a day from Alberta and the northern Great Plains to refineries on the Gulf Coast, will produce significant economic benefits. Eighty-five percent say the pipeline would create a significant number of jobs, with 62 percent saying they “strongly” believed that to be the case.

At the same time, nearly half of those interviewed — 47 percent — say they think Keystone will pose a significant risk to the environment.



Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/new-post-abc-news-poll-keystone-xl-project-overwhelmingly-favored-by-americans/2014/03/06/d74c58c6-a4a1-11e3-a5fa-55f0c77bf39c_story.html



This is incredibly depressing. We're still a nation of petroleum junkies.

I wish I could see a bright light in this, but damn, just damn.

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Goddamn, the pusherman. The ones in office, and out. villager Mar 2014 #1
We need to educate our friends etc now bjobotts Mar 2014 #33
Too late to educate your friends. It's going to be approved and Putin is helping it get approved. kelliekat44 Mar 2014 #45
Face it. We have little to no sway on the rich puppets in DC. blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #56
It's an ex-communist plot! Mag238 Mar 2014 #94
But the fact is it will only support a handful of permanant jobs. They should re-do it with that grahamhgreen Mar 2014 #2
that's not the point of polling nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #6
People are for it because they think it means jobs and energy for America, if they knew grahamhgreen Mar 2014 #78
Yeah, but by the time they realize it... KansDem Mar 2014 #84
The same illusion was used to promote Gulf and Iraq wars. Mag238 Mar 2014 #95
34 permanent jobs. That's it. Tar sands sludge is what we get bjobotts Mar 2014 #35
Think of all the jobs created when there are spills! csziggy Mar 2014 #46
Most construction project jobs are temporary madville Mar 2014 #93
Are they asking the farmers and ranchers whose land the pipeline crosses ... nt MindMover Mar 2014 #3
Koch bros. stand to make $100 billion from this pipeline. bjobotts Mar 2014 #37
As much as I loathe the Kochs, that does not compute. Psephos Mar 2014 #61
The Koch brothers are aligned with the competing Enbridge system Sen. Walter Sobchak Mar 2014 #79
only 2!! Nebraska landowners are in court now. They will probably lose anyway. Sunlei Mar 2014 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author MindMover Mar 2014 #48
That's a bit cryptic. Could you elaborate? Mag238 Mar 2014 #96
Google it ... and then store it at NSA .... MindMover Mar 2014 #101
"Google it" is not a citation. Mag238 Mar 2014 #107
I do not know you and what your motivation is ... MindMover Mar 2014 #109
Why not post a link? Mag238 Mar 2014 #118
Despite opposition from some, I'm sure others have agreed. Just like took the money for fracking. freshwest Mar 2014 #62
This is a done deal. proudretiredvet Mar 2014 #4
This country is anything but a poll driven politics one. fleabiscuit Mar 2014 #17
I do not agree. proudretiredvet Mar 2014 #71
Ya, that's what I said. fleabiscuit Mar 2014 #141
They probably think that WE are getting the oil, also. pangaia Mar 2014 #5
I explained this to a tea party guy I know ... it blew his mind. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #91
Yes, it boggles the mind. pangaia Mar 2014 #98
I'd like to see the poll questions atreides1 Mar 2014 #7
All we'll get from this pipeline is the tar sands pollution.The tipping point. bjobotts Mar 2014 #39
How Toxic-ingly Sad grilled onions Mar 2014 #8
bullshit LiberalEsto Mar 2014 #9
you can bet the pipeline people will use this poll to make their case. except for the part Sunlei Mar 2014 #49
I seem to recall that at one time Americans also supported Downtown Hound Mar 2014 #10
Absolutely correct, and that is why the country is where it is today, and unfortunately will be for lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #16
People worldwide=not the smartest folks ever EX500rider Mar 2014 #18
Just remember, necessity is the mother of action so people are getting more involved bjobotts Mar 2014 #40
Help me out here...I support this project* psychopomp Mar 2014 #99
Oh please, spare me the bullshit about how this will help our economy Downtown Hound Mar 2014 #114
I'm not convinced psychopomp Mar 2014 #115
Even if I did those things Downtown Hound Mar 2014 #133
Oh and, 50 jobs? Downtown Hound Mar 2014 #134
Oh and, one more thing about your smugness regarding protester tactics Downtown Hound Mar 2014 #135
I wasn't generalizing psychopomp Mar 2014 #137
No, I'm not crazy Downtown Hound Mar 2014 #138
I've been in the streets psychopomp Mar 2014 #139
You sound like a tired old burnout Downtown Hound Mar 2014 #140
The maximum permanent jobs it will provide is fifty. Cleita Mar 2014 #123
I can't take this poll seriously Iliyah Mar 2014 #11
Yes, this is "manufactured consent." PSPS Mar 2014 #57
Would that be the same Washington Post and ABC that said Saddam had WMDs? Octafish Mar 2014 #12
it is a very bad habit to discount polling that contains unpleasant results nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #14
+1 n/t crim son Mar 2014 #106
what jobs?the pipeline is already built except for 2 nebraska farmers in court? Sunlei Mar 2014 #13
Who the hell are they asking? . . . aggiesal Mar 2014 #15
Well if you look at a existing map of US pipelines.. EX500rider Mar 2014 #21
Rail and truck may *be* more dangerous. freedom fighter jh Mar 2014 #25
Actually, that's my issue. They are sending the garbage they don't want to handle Cleita Mar 2014 #31
Are you under the impression they aren't already? Sen. Walter Sobchak Mar 2014 #80
And we kept it for our use. This is not for us. n/t Cleita Mar 2014 #88
Keystone XL is to feed the Gulf Coast Refineries Sen. Walter Sobchak Mar 2014 #89
Prove it. Cleita Mar 2014 #92
Look at a map Sen. Walter Sobchak Mar 2014 #111
I get it. You live in Canada. It's seems NIMBY is your real interest. Cleita Mar 2014 #119
The map proves that the refining capacity of the Gulf Coast is enormous Sen. Walter Sobchak Mar 2014 #121
I'm nobody. More knowledgable and informed people than I see this Cleita Mar 2014 #122
I don't have a clue what you're talking about Sen. Walter Sobchak Mar 2014 #127
I can't help you if you don't read your own newspapers then. n/t Cleita Mar 2014 #128
So it's bullshit, just as I suspected. Sen. Walter Sobchak Mar 2014 #129
You should ask yourself . . . aggiesal Mar 2014 #53
Well if my choice is they ship it to China for refining or Texas.. EX500rider Mar 2014 #59
Are you serious? aggiesal Mar 2014 #64
Fine they can refine it there, much better then China. EX500rider Mar 2014 #66
Great, I'm glad to see my way. ... aggiesal Mar 2014 #73
They already are, it's called the Trans Mountain Pipeline System, it is sixty years old Sen. Walter Sobchak Mar 2014 #81
Well....WTF? SoapBox Mar 2014 #19
Yup, you're right.. . aggiesal Mar 2014 #113
This is because the fossil fuel companies.... Swede Atlanta Mar 2014 #20
Big Oil companies money spent on propaganda making people act stupid SkatmanRoth Mar 2014 #36
And after the pipeline is built and gas is still crazy expensive NickB79 Mar 2014 #22
Most people don't know enough about the pipeline to think it's *not* a good idea meadowlark5 Mar 2014 #23
Yep. They think it will be used here. Not exported. NCarolinawoman Mar 2014 #27
Significant risk to the environment, but the promise of a few jobs, and that's OK??? arcane1 Mar 2014 #24
Damn Liberal media.. adavid Mar 2014 #26
Depends on whom they polled and how they did it. Cleita Mar 2014 #28
Do you trust ABC? BanzaiBonnie Mar 2014 #29
ABC/WaPo is a credible polling outfit. I don't play the "skewed polls" game. nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #30
It would be natural to have a "skewed poll" here. fleabiscuit Mar 2014 #38
the poll shows strong support for increasing the minimum wage and a slight edge geek tragedy Mar 2014 #41
Yes. To me it looks more like information gap problem with the pipeline. fleabiscuit Mar 2014 #43
i think people are desperate to see some kind of infrastructure built, economy sucks geek tragedy Mar 2014 #44
Any project that creates jobs, permanent or otherwise seveneyes Mar 2014 #32
Only 35 jobs created by approval of Keystone pipeline K lib Mar 2014 #34
just shows how many misinformed people there are in this country 4dsc Mar 2014 #42
Check it out. proverbialwisdom Mar 2014 #50
Oh no! Heavens to Betsey! What shall we do? bluestateguy Mar 2014 #51
The letter after the name means nothing much anymore. Both "D" & "R" chase the same BIG MONEY! blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #58
Seems to me that the poll results reflect how the mainstream media is failing riversedge Mar 2014 #52
Why should I believe a poll, which is easily manipulated? (Not saying this one is...) blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #54
Unfucking believable Politicalboi Mar 2014 #55
I wonder how our misinformed public would respond if they knew Keystone XL will RAISE gas prices? pa28 Mar 2014 #60
Exactly. This is all about getting a higher price for their commodity. Strelnikov_ Mar 2014 #63
With the wealthy owning our media and government... How... TheProgressive Mar 2014 #64
121,745,000 people voted in 2012. 1,002 people were polled here. intheflow Mar 2014 #67
1000 people polled doesn't make it invalid. Hop over to RCP and look at the sample size for some 24601 Mar 2014 #72
No perfect polls but a lot of imperfect, misleading journalism. intheflow Mar 2014 #74
and AMEN ... MindMover Mar 2014 #104
common sense hoosierlib Mar 2014 #68
But, but, but the Keysssssssstone Pipeline isss Ssssssssso Niccccccce! africanadian Mar 2014 #69
This poll underscores how badly the media... blackspade Mar 2014 #70
who paid for this poll? Follow the money back to the Koch Brothers. olddad56 Mar 2014 #75
I would imagine that a lot of misinformed people would support the pipeline... olddad56 Mar 2014 #76
If other polls follow this trend, then the answer is pretty clear. Tarheel_Dem Mar 2014 #77
Non-scientific of course sakabatou Mar 2014 #82
Lies, damned lies, and fucking polls. bitchkitty Mar 2014 #83
I think the main reason most people are pro-XL is because.. DCBob Mar 2014 #85
A nation of short term thinkers. undeterred Mar 2014 #103
Exactly! n/t markpkessinger Mar 2014 #125
Family values people who don't care if the world is a total trash heap undeterred Mar 2014 #126
+1 ... Nihil Mar 2014 #136
Propaganda works. Scuba Mar 2014 #86
So well that they don't even need a police-state.... Mag238 Mar 2014 #97
Is this the real info, or is this merely the usual propaganda pushed by Big Oil for profit? Cal33 Mar 2014 #87
The Post and ABC have no credibilty on this issue. greatlaurel Mar 2014 #90
and AMEN ... MindMover Mar 2014 #105
Thanks! greatlaurel Mar 2014 #108
Some day the media will recognize polynomial Mar 2014 #100
I don't believe it. Faux pas Mar 2014 #102
Oil guzzling nation Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2014 #110
Propaganda works Doctor_J Mar 2014 #112
A percentage of Americans believe "sunrise" and "sunset" are literal terms n/t IDemo Mar 2014 #116
Canadians are Americans...North Americans Demonaut Mar 2014 #117
I don't believe this, I don't believe 2 of 3 U.S. citizens/voters even know what it is or what it is Todays_Illusion Mar 2014 #120
Betcha it was worded in such a way that would lead to an approving Cleita Mar 2014 #124
bullshit. hopemountain Mar 2014 #130
They need to build it. Turbineguy Mar 2014 #131
Something from the Toronto Sun. Cleita Mar 2014 #132
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