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135. You are corect, zeemike

Thu Mar 6, 2014, 02:54 AM

Mar 2014

Madem supports the overthrow of a democratically elected government.

And Madem supports using violence to do so.

I guess it's ok as long as it is somewhere else and Madem can just sit back and laugh at the deaths and injuries Madem supports.

Were this situation in the US, Madem would be banned from DU. But since it is in a country that his grandfather worked and made lots of money 'building Caracas', Madem is fine with the violence and destruction and overthrow of duly elected government.

You are morally correct. Madem is not.

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Venezuela: Tens of thousands march in anti-government protests [View all] Zorro Mar 2014 OP

The neocons sure are busy these days, aren't they? reformist2 Mar 2014 #1

Yeah, because residents of Catia are all a bunch of neocons. joshcryer Mar 2014 #2

Donchu know? Archae Mar 2014 #7

I'd like to see what would happen in this country Yo_Mama Mar 2014 #21

One of the worst propogandists called it "psychological." joshcryer Mar 2014 #72

Everything is a US lead conspiracy davidpdx Mar 2014 #74

It's a new type of American exceptionalism. joshcryer Mar 2014 #75

Yep davidpdx Mar 2014 #76

"Dear Leader Maduro can do no wrong..." Archae Mar 2014 #3

That is what the right wing in this country call Obama zeemike Mar 2014 #5

Nope. Archae Mar 2014 #6

sounds like you did juxtaposed Mar 2014 #9

It was used against Bush, and Clinton before him. But no, please continue. DRoseDARs Mar 2014 #12

'Dear Leader' was/is the official title of Kim Jong-il in North Korea. denem Mar 2014 #27

Yeah, that's well-known and not what's being discussed. Thanks anyhow. DRoseDARs Mar 2014 #44

Strange to have never heard it back then. Didn't happen. Judi Lynn Mar 2014 #47

*sigh* Google: "dear leader bush du site:www.democraticunderground.com" DRoseDARs Mar 2014 #50

Well? smokey775 Mar 2014 #53

Can't you read? "Didn't happen." Common Sense Party Mar 2014 #55

Dammit. smokey775 Mar 2014 #56

Post haste. Common Sense Party Mar 2014 #57

Yep. Just read them. "Didn't happen" on threads I read. Judi Lynn Mar 2014 #68

BIG difference between "didn't happen" and "I never saw it happen." Feel free to admit you Common Sense Party Mar 2014 #83

+ 1,000,000 n/t Bacchus4.0 Mar 2014 #85

And just about every one, right or left, smokey775 Mar 2014 #10

Well that is what the North Korean people call their leader. zeemike Mar 2014 #11

See #12. nt DRoseDARs Mar 2014 #13

Well I never saw it zeemike Mar 2014 #18

You've been a member since 02 and never once saw it? I don't think you're lying, I just... DRoseDARs Mar 2014 #45

Yes, no, no,yes no.., zeemike Mar 2014 #46

See post #53. smokey775 Mar 2014 #80

Well there you go. zeemike Mar 2014 #81

There's a lot more where that came from. smokey775 Mar 2014 #82

I only told you I never saw it. zeemike Mar 2014 #84

but you did try to spear the poster with association with the right wing Bacchus4.0 Mar 2014 #87

Yes I did. zeemike Mar 2014 #92

Archives. smokey775 Mar 2014 #91

Did you not read my comments? zeemike Mar 2014 #94

Stilll, the fact remains that you could have easily typed in "dear leader bush" smokey775 Mar 2014 #96

My comments were about me zeemike Mar 2014 #98

You're still saying this is a RW meme? smokey775 Mar 2014 #99

Right, 5 compared to thousands. zeemike Mar 2014 #100

Still not doing research I see. smokey775 Mar 2014 #101

Well it seems that no matter what I say you will just repeat the charges. zeemike Mar 2014 #104

I'll bet that we agree on 99% of other issues, smokey775 Mar 2014 #105

Don't assume Democrats are as stupid as Republicans. That wouldn't be accurate. n/t Judi Lynn Mar 2014 #48

Care to address post #53? smokey775 Mar 2014 #63

I invite you to read post #68. n/t Judi Lynn Mar 2014 #70

Maybe next time, before you make a statement, you'll use your valuable time smokey775 Mar 2014 #79

It did happen so you were wrong, dear leader Maduro isn't the only one Bacchus4.0 Mar 2014 #88

It is standard practice for the right wing bitchkitty Mar 2014 #123

Well they have plenty of money to spend. zeemike Mar 2014 #4

People from 23 Enero are neocons? Who knew? nt MADem Mar 2014 #14

What a dumb thing to say jzodda Mar 2014 #15

Follow the money. Astroturfed movements don't just happen in the USA, you know. reformist2 Mar 2014 #16

According to DemocracyNow dotymed Mar 2014 #26

"That has been caused by the elite hoarding to destabilize Socialism." EX500rider Mar 2014 #32

I hope they had a fun afternoon. n/t Comrade Grumpy Mar 2014 #8

There was violence, lots of shooting with plastic bullets, etc., those armed gangs, tear gas, etc. MADem Mar 2014 #17

Funny how that works. zeemike Mar 2014 #19

These folks have leaders who articulate their views. MADem Mar 2014 #20

So OWS should have been throwing stones at the cops zeemike Mar 2014 #22

The Guardian: "Venezuela's poor join protests as turmoil grips Chávez's revolution" Tarheel_Dem Mar 2014 #30

OK you have convinced me. zeemike Mar 2014 #31

I don't give a fuck about OWS, and neither did anyone else. I just thought someone should correct Tarheel_Dem Mar 2014 #36

Well you may have contempt for OWS but I don't. zeemike Mar 2014 #40

What's so funny 'bout peace, love and understanding? nt Common Sense Party Mar 2014 #89

Cue Elvis Costello zeemike Mar 2014 #97

I'm sorry, I can't talk to someone who sounds like they swallowed an Occupy manifesto. OWS was a... Tarheel_Dem Mar 2014 #102

Well even a broken ddddemarco Mar 2014 #108

Yeah, unless the clock is of the mickey mouse variety. Tarheel_Dem Mar 2014 #109

"But the country with the highest murder rate in SA right now is Hindus" EX500rider Mar 2014 #33

Well thanks for pointing out my error. zeemike Mar 2014 #39

Absolutely, Hindus! Just after the Principality of Santa Lucia del Carmen though... ChangoLoa Mar 2014 #38

Yep. Your tax dollars is buying propaganda the right-wingers try to stuff down Judi Lynn Mar 2014 #49

Yep they seem to recycle the same old propaganda. zeemike Mar 2014 #52

They give themselves away with everything they do, without shame! n/t Judi Lynn Mar 2014 #59

OWS did throw rocks. joshcryer Mar 2014 #67

Bullshit zeemike Mar 2014 #77

"the same people praise the opposition in anther country that does all of those things and more." reddread Mar 2014 #86

Well I am against capital punishment. zeemike Mar 2014 #90

me too, with one exception reddread Mar 2014 #93

Yes but that is criminal zeemike Mar 2014 #95

You slept through Oakland, apparently. nt MADem Mar 2014 #113

No, they should have had leaders that articulate their views. MADem Mar 2014 #103

All authoritarians love strong leaders. zeemike Mar 2014 #106

Gee, so you're saying that Chavistas are authoritarians....? MADem Mar 2014 #107

Well look we have both made ourself clear. zeemike Mar 2014 #110

How tiresome. MADem Mar 2014 #112

Well if it is tiresome why did you make this long tiresome post zeemike Mar 2014 #115

Well, it doesn't repeat a doggone thing. You don't want to hear it. MADem Mar 2014 #116

Don't need to...I have seen it before. zeemike Mar 2014 #117

Don't watch, don't learn. MADem Mar 2014 #118

And so was the video showing the "Chavistas" firring on the demonstrators zeemike Mar 2014 #119

This is not about the "opposition." MADem Mar 2014 #120

Well you are right about one thing. zeemike Mar 2014 #121

Excuse me? MADem Mar 2014 #122

Well let's apply your logic to ourselves. zeemike Mar 2014 #124

You cannot compare USA to VZ--stop trying to divert with phony comparisons. MADem Mar 2014 #125

So then it is the degree of it zeemike Mar 2014 #128

You don't understand the "moral principles." It's a dysfunctional dictatorship now. MADem Mar 2014 #129

There is no "false equivalency" in moral principles. zeemike Mar 2014 #130

You're comparing a paper cut to a double amputation. MADem Mar 2014 #131

Well being shot in the face with pepper spray is not a paper cut. zeemike Mar 2014 #132

You are the only one carping about OWS. MADem Mar 2014 #133

Well you are right it is not an apt comparison. zeemike Mar 2014 #134

You are corect, zeemike RobertEarl Mar 2014 #135

Too often money trumps morality zeemike Mar 2014 #136

I've been among 100s of thousands cprise Mar 2014 #23

And then, during the Bush pResidency, they stopped estimating crowds at protests Judi Lynn Mar 2014 #51

We could have ownership restrictions over broadcast media cprise Mar 2014 #61

BTW cprise Mar 2014 #62

You got any fake pictures to back up the numbers? JackRiddler Mar 2014 #24

Will this do? And this isn't fake. 3/3/2014 smokey775 Mar 2014 #25

No, actually. That will not do. JackRiddler Mar 2014 #28

"The pro-oligarchic movement" EX500rider Mar 2014 #35

Neither, obviously. JackRiddler Mar 2014 #42

I wouldn't call them a movement. They're a presence from centuries ago that never left. They are not freshwest Mar 2014 #64

You expect "very high resolution" in the barrios of Caracas? joshcryer Mar 2014 #71

ANONYMOUS VZ is collecting images from protesters round the clock and putting them up on Twitter. MADem Mar 2014 #114

The Keystone Pipeline protest in DC yesterday had more people protesting than the Venezuelan Zorra Mar 2014 #29

Honestly? I doubt that. JackRiddler Mar 2014 #34

Even in US MSM media, which usually exaggerates the size of RW protests Zorra Mar 2014 #37

If you can find any credible information that the Keystone protesters were attacked Common Sense Party Mar 2014 #58

Yes, the biker gangs shootings are terrifying and destabilizing government as well. I don't think freshwest Mar 2014 #65

Authoritarianism begins in the home... Zorra Mar 2014 #126

Authoritarianism is older than the definition as we use it. Before the pharoahs, even. And it's not freshwest Mar 2014 #127

yawn Zorra Mar 2014 #111

You don't say....USA pop 300+million Vs Venz. 29 million EX500rider Mar 2014 #41

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #43

Here's how Mitt Romney and the right wing would explain this: BillZBubb Mar 2014 #54

Absolutely right. COLGATE4 Mar 2014 #60

What's the boligarchs? Is that a new term at DU? TIA. n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #66

It's a term Chavez himself has used. joshcryer Mar 2014 #69

Thanks for those details! I was just posting elsewhere about how Russia can get its way with Gazprom freshwest Mar 2014 #73

The new oligarchs who have profited mighily from COLGATE4 Mar 2014 #78