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In reply to the discussion: Ukrainian city demolishes monument to Russian general who beat Napoleon. [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)87. I looked at the video of the "destruction" of the statue, and there's plainly some "framing" going
on in that article...but this is to be expected from RT. The headline is just inaccurate.
If you look at this video, the statue is gently lifted from its plinth, and gently placed in the back of the truck. There's no "destroying" happening at all, which makes the headline a bit puzzling, to say the least.
I think they're intending to relocate the thing.
I am behind the curve and have not yet caught Obama's speech. I've had some pressing tasks on the burner today, so I'll have to find it online. I've heard a few snippets of opinion here and there but have no real clue thus cannot comment intelligently.
Generically, though, I don't think anyone is interested in invading Russia. They're like Persians, and most other cultures, when it comes to nationalism--they can gripe amongst themselves but they don't like anyone else coming in and trying to take over. Which is reasonable. I think it's possible to support self-determination and excoriate people who try to overstep without making warfare the first choice. I'm guessing the Ukrainians feel the same way, particularly since they've spent many centuries indeed having to serve somebody who didn't have their interests and culture at the forefront.
As for Putin, he is what he is--and he's very good at what he does. He's a product of his environment and his KGB years. He is probably the best at intel/spycraft in the world; that doesn't make him a nice guy, certainly. He certainly has a personal life that's nothing to boast about, but that's no requirement for leadership.
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Ukrainian city demolishes monument to Russian general who beat Napoleon. [View all]
another_liberal
Feb 2014
OP
Scortch Earth was NOT the Russian Policy Against Napoleon, he did that himself....
happyslug
Feb 2014
#15
The Russian campaign is even used as a example on the "Scorched earth" wikki..
EX500rider
Feb 2014
#29
"If someone is offended because symbols of totalitarianism are toppled then I have no sympathy."
EX500rider
Mar 2014
#93
"Western Ukraine is largely Greek Catholic (which isn't very much Catholic but recognizes the Pope)"
another_liberal
Feb 2014
#17
Many Seem Unaware, Sir, Czarist Russia, Like Soviet Russia, Was An Empire
The Magistrate
Feb 2014
#39
+1 ... Guess they don't want to be "happy serfs" to a modern day tsar, either..? nt
MADem
Feb 2014
#80
Kind of like British Generals are not part of American colonial history, eh? nt
rdharma
Feb 2014
#55
Along with Col. Washington..... there were a lot of other British officers.....
rdharma
Feb 2014
#60
He was British because they controlled the colonies. He wasn't born in London, he was born in VA. nt
MADem
Feb 2014
#81
Like it or not, Russification is a subject that is going to upset a lot of people.
Tommy_Carcetti
Feb 2014
#22
"How is he responsible for crimes committed by leaders of the the Soviet Union?"
EX500rider
Feb 2014
#37
I looked at the video of the "destruction" of the statue, and there's plainly some "framing" going
MADem
Feb 2014
#87