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dmallind

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75. not contain a fraction of the toxins and carcinogens in ETS for one.

Mon Mar 12, 2012, 12:39 PM

Mar 2012

nor smell as close to as acrid and foul

nor get absorbed into your clothes, rendering them unfit to wear in public until washed or dry cleaned

nor kill 55000 Americans a year, which is rather the key figure here.

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Indiana passes statewide smoking ban, exempts bars [View all] Little Tich Mar 2012 OP

Public spaces...if they're enclosed, I agree. As for the others, though... Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #1

Because employees shouldn't have to decide between their job and their health. Kurska Mar 2012 #2

I would never work in a coal mine Politicalboi Mar 2012 #3

Affordable Care Act CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #7

Holy slippery slope batman n/t Kurska Mar 2012 #13

No doubt CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #14

you're starting to veer into R talking points CreekDog Mar 2012 #65

No sale CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #72

Calling the government a "Nanny"? CreekDog Mar 2012 #73

"rich white female law students"? "rich Union Workers"? Wow. muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 #74

Free Birth Control???????? Bandit Mar 2012 #85

Notice this was a REPUBLICAN Bill.. Bandit Mar 2012 #84

Coal mines are heavily regulated and a very niche economic function. Kurska Mar 2012 #12

"So if they don't like the smoke, they shouldn't apply for the job" is such a stupid argument leftyohiolib Mar 2012 #17

It's like my neighbors who insist on bbq-ing every single freaking day and the smoke drifts into my Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #54

That seems fair enough quakerboy Mar 2012 #21

You assume everyone has great choice in where to work. Bradical79 Mar 2012 #88

It's not just indoors, I think. It's public places. Public places include outside spaces. nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #92

nevermind lost-in-nj Mar 2012 #70

Freedom is not in the Nicotine Nazi's vocabulary FreakinDJ Mar 2012 #4

Hey look how good it worked. CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #15

You can have your nicotine all you'd like, anywhere you'd like. MADem Mar 2012 #36

So the view that doesn't kill millions of people is the Nazi one? nt Deep13 Mar 2012 #50

Your comparison demeans the victims of the Nazis... Deep13 Mar 2012 #51

I know, right? Mojorabbit Mar 2012 #62

What a stupid thing to say Bradical79 Mar 2012 #89

The state is promoting the reduction of smoking. Deep13 Mar 2012 #5

I am offended by obese people taking all the food. CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #8

someone ingesting sugar doesnt give me cancer- this is another one of those dumb false equivalencies leftyohiolib Mar 2012 #18

It not only doesn't give me cancer; also, it does not send a disgusting byproduct in my direction. Nye Bevan Mar 2012 #28

It's like the disgusting burning of charcoal for bbq-ing. Some day we need to grow up as a society. Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #55

Exactly obamanut2012 Mar 2012 #42

What does cooking over the charcoal grill do? nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #56

not contain a fraction of the toxins and carcinogens in ETS for one. dmallind Mar 2012 #75

Plenty of toxins in charcoal Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #76

Plenty fricking more in ETS dmallind Mar 2012 #77

#1 to who? Not the person standing over the grill. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #79

You're right. Deep13 Mar 2012 #48

McWorms CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #52

I'd settle for not actively promoting destructive lifestyles. nt Deep13 Mar 2012 #53

speaking of banning... CreekDog Mar 2012 #66

I agree -- bars should not have been exempted obamanut2012 Mar 2012 #44

thanks nt Deep13 Mar 2012 #49

in CA it was banned in bars to save on workers' compensation CreekDog Mar 2012 #67

Or encouraging a whole new group of people woo me with science Mar 2012 #91

YES. Businesses should be able to opt out of regulations protecting the safety of employees. Nye Bevan Mar 2012 #6

Eating meat CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #10

So if they gave masks to their employees then it would be alright? nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #57

smoking = filthy drug addiction that poisons non-users as well nt msongs Mar 2012 #9

So, people who work in bars and casinos don't have the right to be safe BlueIris Mar 2012 #11

No...they don't CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #16

yes ...they do. go poison yourself in your car- smoking is not a right but my health is leftyohiolib Mar 2012 #19

Suppose I want to open up a restaurant called Smoker's Paradise Ter Mar 2012 #71

no i would not, it would be illegal here in California CreekDog Mar 2012 #82

I'm not saying it's legal in CA Ter Mar 2012 #83

Right. Because there are so many jobs out there. The economy being so good and all. Nye Bevan Mar 2012 #23

Lol. Union Scribe Mar 2012 #29

I just went and read obamanut2012 Mar 2012 #46

Americans have a legal right to a safe workplace obamanut2012 Mar 2012 #45

And You're Working Toward Setting Up A Legal Clinic? (n/t) Paladin Mar 2012 #86

Sure they do. Just offer them masks like in any over hazardous environment. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #58

So do folks here ... ... bayareaboy Mar 2012 #20

Having grown up in Indiana... BeHereNow Mar 2012 #22

So its strange that the UK, Ireland, Italy, New York, and California all banned smoking in bars, Nye Bevan Mar 2012 #25

Closed down many small bars and pubs... Clames Mar 2012 #30

"The study also found the city's restaurants and bars prospered despite the smoke-free law" Nye Bevan Mar 2012 #34

In lots of places in Italy, they'll nudge/wink on that score. MADem Mar 2012 #37

Some of the Tobacco states have banned it in bars, too obamanut2012 Mar 2012 #47

Clearly, you have never visited small towns in Indiana... n/t BeHereNow Mar 2012 #63

no they won't. we did in CA years ago and things are open CreekDog Mar 2012 #68

Nice! (n/t) a2liberal Mar 2012 #24

A rare place that pro-health Democrats can line up with anti-vice Republicans. onehandle Mar 2012 #26

Just as it seems amazing today that at one time people could blow smoke in your face at the office, Nye Bevan Mar 2012 #27

Yep. nt onehandle Mar 2012 #43

Going outside to smoke doesn't bother me. davidthegnome Mar 2012 #31

+1! Rhiannon12866 Mar 2012 #33

The "employees shouldn't have to be forced to breathe smoke" argument is a little strange... jmowreader Mar 2012 #32

What about the ones who are not smokers? Nye Bevan Mar 2012 #35

that's unintelligible CreekDog Mar 2012 #69

Spam deleted by uppityperson (MIR Team) kopperlis123 Mar 2012 #38

Busboys with learning disabilities will get lung cancer Kolesar Mar 2012 #39

My personal experience with anti-smoking jerseyjack Mar 2012 #40

illinois has been smoke free since 2008 madrchsod Mar 2012 #41

Why not just offer them masks like every other hazardous facility? nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #59

If restaurants allowing smoking were required to have all staff wear full respiratory apparatus, Nye Bevan Mar 2012 #60

you would probably just need a regular gas mask. oxygen tanks would not be required. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #61

How is "bar" defined in this bill? dmallind Mar 2012 #64

So you can only smoke if you're drinking or gambling? Iggo Mar 2012 #78

or anyhere not polluting the air breathed by the general public in enclosed spaces of course dmallind Mar 2012 #80

Can you not tolerate the notion that smokers may want to congregate in a convivial setting? Comrade Grumpy Mar 2012 #81

Comrade, You Just Don't Get It RobinA Mar 2012 #87

Maybe bars for smokers They_Live Mar 2012 #90

This is like the restrictions on abortion. Restrictions on a legal activity, intended to... Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #93

But, but, but, excuse not to write Mar 2012 #94