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87. Reading comprehension is something intelligent people can learn. Try.

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Glenn Greenwald Calls Obama's NSA Speech A Publicity Stunt [View all] DonViejo Jan 2014 OP

K & R L0oniX Jan 2014 #1

Ugh. OKNancy Jan 2014 #2

More like refusing to accept window dressing MNBrewer Jan 2014 #3

did you read the speech. It's posted here in LBN OKNancy Jan 2014 #4

That you would consider this exceptional violation of the 4th Amendment "good" is disgusting. nt Poll_Blind Jan 2014 #6

They will accept the President giving himself the power to execute Maedhros Jan 2014 #78

Touche' another_liberal Jan 2014 #104

@jricole: NSA Bulk Surveillance has had no Impact on Fighting Terrorism Hissyspit Jan 2014 #12

@ggreenwald: It has that effect regardless of motive RT @tnyCloseRead Obama: we don't collect intell Hissyspit Jan 2014 #14

@ggreenwald: So let's imprison for decades he who enabled it RT @janinegibson Obama: "One thing I am Hissyspit Jan 2014 #16

@ZoeSCarpenter: Obama failing to acknowledge that pre 9/11 intel failures had nothing t Hissyspit Jan 2014 #20

or even listen to it Demeter Jan 2014 #34

Given that it would not be true, why would the President say it? He cited that there was overseas 24601 Jan 2014 #97

@attackerman: Nothing in these proposals addresses the weakening of encryption standard Hissyspit Jan 2014 #23

Why not just provide the feed to the twit you are talking about? nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #61

What are you talking about? Hissyspit Jan 2014 #127

Substantive tweets? You should get a DUzy for that oxymoron. nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #145

Got nothing, hunh? Hissyspit Jan 2014 #147

You let us know when Glen makes a substantive tweet, then!!! You go!!! msanthrope Jan 2014 #151

Thank you, Ms! nm Cha Jan 2014 #183

Why? Hissyspit Jan 2014 #195

Greenwald=Fucking stuntmeister Cha Jan 2014 #182

Listened to and read the Speech... Steerpike Jan 2014 #5

Of course the Obama haters are disappointed. baldguy Jan 2014 #7

If you disagree Steerpike Jan 2014 #9

60 yrs of intelligence policy will not be changed baldguy Jan 2014 #42

Greenwald is a journalist. Titonwan Jan 2014 #70

Saying Greenwald is a "journalist" is like saying I'm a major league baseball player. George II Jan 2014 #124

In your first post, baldguy, you argued that those who are opposed to the NSA mass surveillance JDPriestly Jan 2014 #75

Reading comprehension is something intelligent people can learn. Try. baldguy Jan 2014 #87

Please be more specific. What did I not comprehend? JDPriestly Jan 2014 #93

not touching it I see! n/t wildbilln864 Jan 2014 #200

I still don't understand what you are trying to say. JDPriestly Jan 2014 #209

they wouldn't explain... wildbilln864 Jan 2014 #214

"Obama Haters" ROFL! 2banon Jan 2014 #49

and if W had given this speech... SHRED Jan 2014 #88

Sorry, but I don't think W could give a speech like that. Say and feel how you want but one thing kelliekat44 Jan 2014 #129

I understand them fine. Hissyspit Jan 2014 #196

Greenwald does not pass my smell test Botany Jan 2014 #8

@jricole: RT @KenRoth: New Obama position on metadata still seems to assume we have no privacy right Hissyspit Jan 2014 #15

Is the posting of all these tweets something that Greenwald wants to be done? Botany Jan 2014 #188

No. Hissyspit Jan 2014 #194

Well it is funny that I just heard John Fugelsang on Stephanie Miller's show yesterday ... Botany Jan 2014 #206

Maybe people just get sick of the made-up shit, lack of substance, and character assassination Hissyspit Jan 2014 #207

All I said was Greenwald makes my "spidey sense" go all ding dang dong .. Botany Jan 2014 #217

Glenn Greenwald himself is a publicity stunt. phleshdef Jan 2014 #10

@ggreenwald: "Store all citizens' communications records" is a radical policy. But it's been transfo Hissyspit Jan 2014 #19

I remember the good old days when so-called journos used to actually write shit Blue_Tires Jan 2014 #36

I remember the good old days when people on DU used to discuss substance Hissyspit Jan 2014 #39

+1. n/t Laelth Jan 2014 #48

homerun frylock Jan 2014 #69

You mean as opposed to posting random tweets? You should win a DUzy for that! nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #71

They're not random. And they are substantive. Hissyspit Jan 2014 #144

Substantive tweets? DUzy worthy. nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #146

I don't see a lot of substance in Greenwald's twitter account Blue_Tires Jan 2014 #76

all my attempts have failed because I guaran-fuckin'-tee you that no DUer wants to venture into wher Titonwan Jan 2014 #84

Every Tweet I posted had substance and not ad Hominem. Hissyspit Jan 2014 #133

holy shit that's hilarious! wildbilln864 Jan 2014 #202

Bing Bang Beeng! Titonwan Jan 2014 #81

I remember the good ole days when human rights activists would go after grantcart Jan 2014 #89

Yeah, we all know about "GG's" new venture. Hissyspit Jan 2014 #130

Semantics George II Jan 2014 #125

Not really. Hissyspit Jan 2014 #138

Greenwald has been routinely criticized for being excessively prolix in his articles n/t Fumesucker Jan 2014 #119

Twitter is a remarkably important Union Scribe Jan 2014 #156

The data is stored and held by the phone companies now. Agnosticsherbet Jan 2014 #80

OK. Let's say you organize a protest about JDPriestly Jan 2014 #91

So, he bashed the speech before he read it. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #11

He did see it. Hissyspit Jan 2014 #18

And of course he saw nothing in the film that caused him to change geek tragedy Jan 2014 #22

Or... because it was there? Hissyspit Jan 2014 #26

I guess we should all be so fortunate to be so brilliant geek tragedy Jan 2014 #28

You sound like someone Titonwan Jan 2014 #99

you would be incorrect. nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #111

Well judging from your posts Titonwan Jan 2014 #161

if it gives you a thrill to imagine your hero beating up on strangers in your imagination, geek tragedy Jan 2014 #162

Deflection isn't pretty. Titonwan Jan 2014 #163

you write like a sports radio caller talks nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #164

Your post is an example of propaganda. Luminous Animal Jan 2014 #215

Greenwald WOULD fucking know, since he's the expert on stunts Blue_Tires Jan 2014 #13

K & R Thinkingabout Jan 2014 #113

We don't have access to his financial records, but I'm sure he's making a bundle on his crap George II Jan 2014 #171

Projection leftynyc Jan 2014 #17

Bottom Line....nothing will change. NorthCarolina Jan 2014 #21

LOL! Greenwald calling it a publicity stunt? His whole career is a publicity stunt. Drunken Irishman Jan 2014 #24

Ah, the old debunked talking points thrown in, too? Hissyspit Jan 2014 #29

Are you Greenwald? Drunken Irishman Jan 2014 #38

Ah, the old debunked talking points thrown in, too? Hissyspit Jan 2014 #41

Truth hurts. Drunken Irishman Jan 2014 #45

And so the requisite baseless attack then spreads to me. Hissyspit Jan 2014 #47

Greenwald would know about baseless attacks. Drunken Irishman Jan 2014 #52

Rinse and repeat. Hissyspit Jan 2014 #54

Pretty much what that racist SOB does... Drunken Irishman Jan 2014 #56

comedy gold frylock Jan 2014 #72

It really is, right? Liberals supposedly supporting a racist libertarian... Drunken Irishman Jan 2014 #98

comedy gold frylock Jan 2014 #102

Absolutely. A self-serving publicity whore calling the President one is a LOL moment. Drunken Irishman Jan 2014 #110

i'd be more willing to entertain your bullshit if you could provide links.. frylock Jan 2014 #112

He supported a right-wing racist group... Drunken Irishman Jan 2014 #114

as an attorney.. frylock Jan 2014 #115

I really hope you're not an attorney... Drunken Irishman Jan 2014 #116

hey let's change the subject! frylock Jan 2014 #117

No subject changed. he's still a lying, Iraq War supporting, right-wing libertarian backing racist. Drunken Irishman Jan 2014 #118

still waiting for those links.. frylock Jan 2014 #149

As a patent attorney. Not exactly because of liberty or civil rights interests.... msanthrope Jan 2014 #150

You call someone a racist when your user name is a racist stereotype? Maedhros Jan 2014 #83

How can I be racist against my own ancestry? Drunken Irishman Jan 2014 #100

Self-hating Irish? I don't know. Maedhros Jan 2014 #105

I don't lack anything. Here we have a publicity whore calling Obama a publicity whore... Drunken Irishman Jan 2014 #109

No one called anyone a publicity whore but you. Hissyspit Jan 2014 #140

"Publicity whore." Maedhros Jan 2014 #141

That user name is pretty offensive infoviro Jan 2014 #157

Being of Irish descent, I find it off-color. [n/t] Maedhros Jan 2014 #158

same here on both your points infoviro Jan 2014 #159

Exactly.. Greenwald's response is always some vicious attack Cha Jan 2014 #184

Bingo... Drunken Irishman Jan 2014 #205

"Uh oh" is right! Good to know about Senator Bernie Sanders.. Cha Jan 2014 #210

A lot of haters in this topic Dopers_Greed Jan 2014 #25

lolz...Greenwald hates harder than everyone in this thread combined Blue_Tires Jan 2014 #30

If you AREN'T outraged by the NSA and the inadequate controls the Executive Branch has on it Demeter Jan 2014 #35

I was outraged by the NSA (and a lot of other covert things) Blue_Tires Jan 2014 #46

Greenwald is a JOURNALIST Demeter Jan 2014 #51

Greenwald is much closer to an advocate than a journalist Blue_Tires Jan 2014 #65

Perhaps his background as a lawyer informs his actions? Demeter Jan 2014 #82

Possibly Blue_Tires Jan 2014 #101

Obama could have filibustered retroactive immunity and brought FISA back to pre-Bush status. OnyxCollie Jan 2014 #37

errr uhhh.. frylock Jan 2014 #73

Aaaannnnndddd.... Titonwan Jan 2014 #166

Greenwald hates harder than everyone in this thread Titonwan Jan 2014 #92

Sorry, but you are mistaken Demeter Jan 2014 #32

Fairy tales for people who are afraid of the dark. OnyxCollie Jan 2014 #33

Amen! Demeter Jan 2014 #27

No, it's only the ODS nutjobs who want him impeached geek tragedy Jan 2014 #31

Stop embarrassing yourself BeyondGeography Jan 2014 #64

Moi? Am I the One Running (Down) the US? Demeter Jan 2014 #85

Why don't you go start an "Obama is a Fascist" thread and be done with it? BeyondGeography Jan 2014 #154

You said it, so I don't have to. Demeter Jan 2014 #204

Did you just bring up the Reverend Wright fake scandal???? nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #198

Well, I guess I'm in the minority... cilla4progress Jan 2014 #40

"They who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve..." Poll_Blind Jan 2014 #50

Very contextual... cilla4progress Jan 2014 #74

Here's the cold hard fact, though: Maedhros Jan 2014 #90

I would not say that is not in the mix, cilla4progress Jan 2014 #96

The danger is a repeat of the J. Edgar Hoover problem. Maedhros Jan 2014 #103

I know, I know! cilla4progress Jan 2014 #122

What you believe Obama's motivation to be really doesn't mean squat. OnyxCollie Jan 2014 #107

Do you care if the NSA goes through your congressman's stuff? OnyxCollie Jan 2014 #60

knocking suckers out.. frylock Jan 2014 #77

Ok, so that's spinning out... cilla4progress Jan 2014 #79

Dismissing as "spinning out" and "catastrophizing" OnyxCollie Jan 2014 #120

1. Not dismissing cilla4progress Jan 2014 #123

"Parallel construction" questionseverything Jan 2014 #131

Why do you keep bringing up Bush era transgressions? randome Jan 2014 #137

Yes, indeedy. Titonwan Jan 2014 #169

For any old crime? No. randome Jan 2014 #189

Define "goes through" please. George II Jan 2014 #126

Yes you are. DeSwiss Jan 2014 #211

Greenwald is being polite, it's worse than a PR speech. n/t 2banon Jan 2014 #43

once again greenwald wants to make himself relevant. madrchsod Jan 2014 #44

That is funny. bvar22 Jan 2014 #86

save me your pity.... i need none of it. madrchsod Jan 2014 #168

sarah palin's opinion is just as valid as anyone's.. frylock Jan 2014 #108

actually it is Bodhi BloodWave Jan 2014 #148

"everyone`s opinion is just as valid as another." Titonwan Jan 2014 #170

What a joke. DeSwiss Jan 2014 #212

He threw in the RW "pretty speech" line ... classic Glenn. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #53

the speech did not address the nsa passing info questionseverything Jan 2014 #55

It appears that those who yelled "TRAITOR!" at Snowden have switched to slamming Greenwald Demeter Jan 2014 #57

Snowden also carefully sifted through all the candidates and chose Ron Fucking Paul. tridim Jan 2014 #62

One of the few things libertarians and liberals agree on Titonwan Jan 2014 #172

Udall, Wyden, Heinrich Statement Reacting to President's Speech on NSA, Surveillance Reform ProSense Jan 2014 #58

He took all of 5 minutes to analyze the effects of the changes. randome Jan 2014 #59

I'm willing to listen to Obama, but if the news leaked about his speech is correct, JDPriestly Jan 2014 #63

And Glenn's totally right, of course. Titonwan Jan 2014 #66

greenwald allinthegame Jan 2014 #67

canned DeSwiss Jan 2014 #213

I just watched it in a cafe in the UK Helen Borg Jan 2014 #68

WHO GIVES A CRAP ABOUT WHAT THAT FUGITIVE THINKS???? George II Jan 2014 #94

You really, really, really Hissyspit Jan 2014 #134

Not yet, but in about two hours I'll be taking the dog for a walk, THEN I will give a crap to him! George II Jan 2014 #136

He ought to know. JNelson6563 Jan 2014 #95

Greenwald was being kind. n/t Psephos Jan 2014 #106

I know, huh! Titonwan Jan 2014 #173

"going to need more than just a pretty speech from President Obama" FiveGoodMen Jan 2014 #121

Greenwald would know all about Publicity Stunts. n/t Lil Missy Jan 2014 #128

You're very late to the party. Hissyspit Jan 2014 #135

Well, your mother was a hamster and your father smells of elderberries Lil Missy Jan 2014 #160

Pot ->Kettle LostinRed Jan 2014 #132

Did you read any of the rest of the thread? Hissyspit Jan 2014 #139

fuck you, Glenn. you are the publicity stunter. n/t Whisp Jan 2014 #142

Glenn please just STFU gholtron Jan 2014 #143

Awww! The president just stepped all over GG's book deal, and multimillion dollar business venture. Tarheel_Dem Jan 2014 #152

The President's proposals amount to fiddling at the margins . . . markpkessinger Jan 2014 #153

The rage by some here is absolutely Pavlovian. Union Scribe Jan 2014 #155

DU has let the equivalent of the Freepers here. Titonwan Jan 2014 #174

DU has let the equivalent of the Freepers here Democat Jan 2014 #185

that's a lie. Bradical79 Jan 2014 #191

How else to interpret it? randome Jan 2014 #193

No, they don't. Hissyspit Jan 2014 #199

Are you sure you mean 'meaningless'? Or simply not to your liking? randome Jan 2014 #201

I said mostly. Hissyspit Jan 2014 #203

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. pa28 Jan 2014 #177

I think he's more worried about his publicity and his book sales. DCBob Jan 2014 #165

No, a loser is someone that's jealous and envious of fame fortune etc. Titonwan Jan 2014 #175

Now that you mention it.. DCBob Jan 2014 #187

This message was self-deleted by its author DCBob Jan 2014 #186

I think you're more worried about his publicity and book sales Bradical79 Jan 2014 #192

Hmm davidthegnome Jan 2014 #167

Of course he is correct. Those attacking Greenwald have no actual argument with his point. TheKentuckian Jan 2014 #176

I noticed the same thing. Nothing but ad hom. nt GliderGuider Jan 2014 #178

You're still big, Glenn . . . ucrdem Jan 2014 #179

Can't respond to his arguments, can you? Hissyspit Jan 2014 #208

If you can't argue the point, resort to gay bashing. Second time I've seen this on DU Luminous Animal Jan 2014 #216

Glenn is so predictable he'll soon be regarded as boring -- and after that he'll just become corny struggle4progress Jan 2014 #180

Yeah, Obama! Don't you know you're messing Cha Jan 2014 #181

Oh, shit. Once you've lost Greenwald, you've lost... randome Jan 2014 #190

k & r! n/t wildbilln864 Jan 2014 #197