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In the discussion thread: Roger Boisjoly dies at 73; engineer tried to halt Challenger launch [View all]

Response to Lionel Mandrake (Original post)

Wed Feb 8, 2012, 10:09 AM

51. I Remember Him

There was a very good docudrama on one of the history channels. His character was done VERY sympathetically.

To this day, i will never accept that the launch was done against the advice of experts because Reagan had the "teacher in space" thing in the SOTU speech.

I will always believe someone from the WH made a call and said "You WILL launch that mission." No proof, just a suspicion that is supported by everything else that administration did.

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60 replies	Author	Time	Post
Roger Boisjoly dies at 73; engineer tried to halt Challenger launch [View all]	Lionel Mandrake	Feb 2012	OP
NASA did a horrible, horrible thing, when they refused to listen to him.	CaliforniaPeggy	Feb 2012	#1
Not just NASA.	no_hypocrisy	Feb 2012	#11
Thank you for that information.	CaliforniaPeggy	Feb 2012	#12
Is this just more CT stuff?	former9thward	Feb 2012	#14
Here's what I could find online. I remember the discussion well in 1986 when it happened. Conceded	no_hypocrisy	Feb 2012	#21
Don't forget, a phone call doesn't leave a track	hedgehog	Feb 2012	#32
Well done	Kolesar	Feb 2012	#50
The launch had been delayed multiple times...	Cassandra	Feb 2012	#54
Ooooh defense of Reagan. Imagine that!	Hassin Bin Sober	Feb 2012	#59
Ooooh you building a strawman. Imagine that!	former9thward	Feb 2012	#60
The Gipper complicit. Tell me it ain't true, Joe	indepat	Feb 2012	#24
It ain't true, Joe.	dairydog91	Feb 2012	#53
I remember that discussion well -	BlueMTexpat	Feb 2012	#42
See My Post Farther Down	ProfessorGAC	Feb 2012	#52
If I remember correctly raygun wanted that flight that day	madokie	Feb 2012	#47
This was not an "engineering miscalculation". This error was a management error. The engineering	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#2
yeah, that stuck out for me, too	Blue_Tires	Feb 2012	#7
The original Hyatt design for the supporting rods was	exboyfil	Feb 2012	#25
That's a natural corporate media, authoritarian bias coming through in the column.	Uncle Joe	Feb 2012	#15
The managers were also engineers.	eomer	Feb 2012	#27
In my book, once you become a manager, you stop being an engineer. nm	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#28
Alan McDonald didn't stop being an engineer.	Lionel Mandrake	Feb 2012	#31
I was generalizing. A problem I see is that when you have engineers as managers	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#36
Robert Lund's position at Morton Thiokol was "VP of Engineering".	eomer	Feb 2012	#43
I agree up to a certain level. However, good engineers dont necessarily	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#48
RIP - You DID what you COULD, the shuttle astronauts will tell you that soon,,,,,	benld74	Feb 2012	#3
Amen!	Boombaby	Feb 2012	#5
A man of honour, and a true public servant.	PDJane	Feb 2012	#4
An Example Of What Happens	DallasNE	Feb 2012	#6
iirc, there was also a lot of external pressure up top	Blue_Tires	Feb 2012	#10
A True Engineer	burrowowl	Feb 2012	#8
Does anyone know who was the on-site asshole that made the final decision to go for launch?	denbot	Feb 2012	#9
If I'm reading this correctly, Stanley Reinartz, Shuttle Project Manager	Blue_Tires	Feb 2012	#13
I think I found your answer denbot	Lochloosa	Feb 2012	#18
RIP Roger and thanks for your service.	Uncle Joe	Feb 2012	#16
You're welcome.	Lionel Mandrake	Feb 2012	#26
I was going to watch the launch at home and get to work a little late	rocktivity	Feb 2012	#17
I thought Reagan's speech on TV that evening was wonderful....	LeftinOH	Feb 2012	#19
He died Jan. 6th. Not really LBN	tawadi	Feb 2012	#20
I remember Richard Feynman absolutely hammering NASA about the o-rings.	edbermac	Feb 2012	#22
This is a great read	slutticus	Feb 2012	#23
As I recall, Rogers was upset about that stunt.	Lionel Mandrake	Feb 2012	#29
Read "The Cognitive Style of PowerPoint"	catrose	Feb 2012	#30
actually, Tufte's point was that the Powerless Pointless slides failed	MadLinguist	Feb 2012	#38
It's been awhile since I looked at it	catrose	Feb 2012	#39
I think it is better for your career to stand by and let bad things happen	hedgehog	Feb 2012	#33
I attended a communications class that attempted to blame Boisjoly	TrogL	Feb 2012	#34
CORRECT	Skittles	Feb 2012	#35
I still remember vividly...	sendero	Feb 2012	#37
I will never forget that day. It's my birthday.	Zoeisright	Feb 2012	#40
IIRc, CNN had cut awayt to commercial. I had CNN on but didn't see it live.	Hassin Bin Sober	Feb 2012	#58
Wow! Read this obit in the LA Times this a.m. & had never heard his story b4-Shocking!!!!!!	SoCalDemGrrl	Feb 2012	#41
Blessed be the truth-tellers...	Surya Gayatri	Feb 2012	#44
NASA Was Trying to Go from R&D to Operational Status and Pushed by Reagan to do so	solarman350	Feb 2012	#45
Ignore engineers and scientists at your peril	malaise	Feb 2012	#46
Wow... first I've heard of this.	4_TN_TITANS	Feb 2012	#49
I Remember Him	ProfessorGAC	Feb 2012	#51
''...as the vehicle cleared the tower Bob whispered to me that we had just dodged a bullet.''	Gabi Hayes	Feb 2012	#55
IIRC, the plan was to have Reagan talk to the astronauts LIVE from the SOTU, not just mentioning it,	GreatCaesarsGhost	Feb 2012	#56
Very interesting article	obamanut2012	Feb 2012	#57

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