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moobu2

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Wed Apr 24, 2013, 07:12 PM Apr 2013

Alabama Senate approves welfare drug testing [View all]

Source: seattlepi.com

The bill provides that when a person applies to the state Department of Human Resources for Temporary Assistance to Needy Families, the person is suspected of using illegal drugs if they have had a drug conviction in the last five years. The person must take a drug test paid for by the state and will get the welfare benefits while awaiting the results of the drug test. If the person passes the drug test, that's it.
If the person fails, they get a warning and tested again later. If they fail again, they lose their share of the welfare benefits, but keep the children's share and they have to take a third test. If they fail that, the children's share is transferred to another person, such as a relative.
"This is an attempt to get people off drugs," Pittman said.
He said it does not involve widespread drug testing and should affect a couple of hundred people each year. The drug testing does not apply to people applying for food stamps, he said.


Read more: http://www.seattlepi.com/news/crime/article/Alabama-Senate-approves-welfare-drug-testing-4460584.php#ixzz2RQPzqycK

Read more: http://www.seattlepi.com/news/crime/article/Alabama-Senate-approves-welfare-drug-testing-4460584.php



Haven't other states tried this ALEC Bill and it was found to be very expensive then found to be unconstitutional?

The probable cause is that the person is suspected if they "had a drug conviction in the last five years". Will that pass the 4th amendment smell test?

The 4th amendment says....
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized
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If it only affects a couple hundred people neffernin Apr 2013 #1
so tired of this shit frylock Apr 2013 #2
Get used to it - it's going to get RiverNoord Apr 2013 #13
Wow that is going to a gut shot to their economy underpants Apr 2013 #3
It will fail just like it did in Florida. L0oniX Apr 2013 #4
More money wasted on BS. Alabama has kids that only eat at school but they waste money on appleannie1 Apr 2013 #5
who makes and provides these drug tests ?????? olddots Apr 2013 #6
I bet they are lobbying hard for these drug testing laws. moobu2 Apr 2013 #10
Does Pittman get tested too? Brigid Apr 2013 #7
Great Law, completely constitutional and legal happyslug Apr 2013 #8
Federal appeals court has ruled the same law passed in Florida and Arizona violates 4th amendment. Ford_Prefect Apr 2013 #11
This is a bit trickier, though, and is a response to such rulings. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2013 #12
It seems to me that probable cause still must somehow provide evidence otherwise its just hearsay. Ford_Prefect Apr 2013 #14
The Actual Case, was to require TANF recipents to be drug tested, not non-TANF welfare receiptents happyslug Apr 2013 #15
Wow, what a mess. Would this then apply to ALL recipients even those previously approved? Ford_Prefect Apr 2013 #16
Yes, we need an LBJ or a Truman, and we have a FDR or worse a Cleveland happyslug Apr 2013 #21
Next: Turbineguy Apr 2013 #9
Add Indiana to that list. AngryOldDem Apr 2013 #17
*facepalm* sakabatou Apr 2013 #18
Soon to be seen in North Carolina. Ford_Prefect Apr 2013 #19
The is the second crazy bill they've passed in a few months by "cheating"... LannyDeVaney Apr 2013 #20
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