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TexasTowelie

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16. I'm an insurance statistician
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 05:21 AM
Mar 2013

and I'll be quite frank when I say actuaries are not the geniuses that everyone would believe. I worked on tort reform in Texas and although I was considered to be at the bottom of the chain of people involved with the project, I often would make a suggestion of potential cost savings that none of the actuaries had ever considered. The reasons why I could make those suggestions was because I knew where information could be located and also because of my familiarity with the data compared to the limited knowledge that the actuaries possessed.

I can also attest that of the actuaries which I worked with both in the public and private sectors, the actuaries in the public sector had superior knowledge and technical skills than those in the private sector. Therefore, I wouldn't put a lot of faith in the numbers that a group of insurance actuaries would use as a prediction--you would probably have better luck at the horse racing track. Considering that most of them track towards a Republican political philosophy, I wouldn't be surprised if they failed to include some of the mitigating effects of Obamacare in their analysis.

Because they are very optimistic? Demeter Mar 2013 #1
On the other hand, it might provide even more fuel for real, comprehensive health care reform. Selatius Mar 2013 #2
And the public will want the crew who developed this plan to do the next one? dkf Mar 2013 #4
I hope that the ACA eventually destroys the current private insurance system Cali_Democrat Mar 2013 #8
I hope I survive to see it. I can't pay any more for insurance. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #13
Exactly. The GOP isn't going to do us any favors Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2013 #29
When people are paying as much for medical insurance (PLUS kestrel91316 Mar 2013 #3
I bet we are there for people on individual plans. dkf Mar 2013 #5
We're there already Yo_Mama Mar 2013 #7
Americans already pay more for the lousiest . . . caseymoz Mar 2013 #10
And that, for the most of us... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2013 #11
Because you don't know anything about the Society of Actuaries? Yo_Mama Mar 2013 #6
I agree about actuaries but then there are the last 4 paragraphs of the report underpants Mar 2013 #18
They're essentially statisticians. Most have degrees in math. LeftInTX Mar 2013 #9
Sounds like more things are covered. daybranch Mar 2013 #12
I'd like to see what is mandated coverage Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2013 #30
Another "The Sky Is Falling" Report Financed By The Insurance DallasNE Mar 2013 #14
Good points. elleng Mar 2013 #15
I'm an insurance statistician TexasTowelie Mar 2013 #16
Thanks for the info, Towelie. elleng Mar 2013 #21
I was with the Department of Insurance in Texas TexasTowelie Mar 2013 #26
WOW! Quite a job you had! elleng Mar 2013 #28
I was happy most of the time that I worked for the state. TexasTowelie Mar 2013 #31
Yes, but, BUT, BUT!, overhead is down, e.g. CEO salaries down. ... sniff sniff sniff ;-D Festivito Mar 2013 #17
very misleading SHRED Mar 2013 #19
Thanks. elleng Mar 2013 #22
more SHRED Mar 2013 #25
Translation: under ACA the InsCos can only keep 85% or whatever it is, instead of half. bemildred Mar 2013 #20
Yes, and they appear to have missed that 'little' fact. elleng Mar 2013 #23
yes, they will have to pay out more and keep less in profits CreekDog Mar 2013 #24
"sicker people are expected to join the pool" instead of dying which was the fate for my brother Kolesar Mar 2013 #27
It's OK. The cost per unit may be higher, but they'll make it up in volume. slackmaster Mar 2013 #32
Pardon me if I'm wrong but don't most actuaries work for insurance companies? TexasBushwhacker Mar 2013 #33
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