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7. It would be interesting. History says there will be no increase in gun violence. nt

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Guns and ammo sales spark jobs boom [View all] hack89 Mar 2013 OP

I Would Think The Funeral Business otohara Mar 2013 #1

History would indicate otherwise hack89 Mar 2013 #4

Only 30,000 Whew otohara Mar 2013 #9

Fuck math... Melon_Lord Mar 2013 #12

Of which more than half are suicides. premium Mar 2013 #15

Suicide Ruins Families otohara Mar 2013 #19

+1000 premium Mar 2013 #21

Do you really think not having a gun made a difference? GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #34

In The Case of My Parental Unit YES otohara Mar 2013 #36

Those were cries for help. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #51

Having a gun makes a HUGE difference--a gun in the home increases your chance of suicide 5 times. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #41

Thank You otohara Mar 2013 #43

That is a risk for myself that I am willing to accept. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #52

My teathuglican neighbor MoclipsHumptulips Mar 2013 #57

Do you also wish to outlaw skydiving, scuba diving, car racing, GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #106

It is to protect US from your irresponsible choice. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #64

You imply that other types of suicides do not incur social costs. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #104

I imply no such thing. All suicides cost society. You missed my point. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #110

We have cut our murder and manslaughter rate in half in 20 years hack89 Mar 2013 #16

Not Feeling Safe in America otohara Mar 2013 #22

You do understand that military style rifles were bought in huge numbers during the AWB? hack89 Mar 2013 #25

I'm Not Living In A Gun Culture Area otohara Mar 2013 #31

OK. nt hack89 Mar 2013 #37

Those numbers are deceiving jmowreader Mar 2013 #50

That is not true either hack89 Mar 2013 #53

Of the 143 weapons used by mass shooters, 48 would have been banned by the AWB of 2013. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #77

Only 20 were assault weapons - shotguns were used more frequently. hack89 Mar 2013 #79

Way to ignore the point. Newtown could not have happened with an ordinary handgun. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #82

You could always ignore me hack89 Mar 2013 #83

Nice try. If we put you on ignore, we can't be on your jury. nt SunSeeker Mar 2013 #85

I meant stop replying to my posts. hack89 Mar 2013 #86

LOL. I am sure it would make YOU feel better. nt SunSeeker Mar 2013 #87

As long as I have been posting here hack89 Mar 2013 #88

He could put you on his Jury Blacklist. NutmegYankee Mar 2013 #89

I guess the gungeoneers can exploit the rules to stay on DU. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #90

What exploitation? NutmegYankee Mar 2013 #91

It allows gungeoneers to get right wing NRA talking points on this progressive site. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #94

You need to realize that Democrats as a group disagree on this issue. NutmegYankee Mar 2013 #95

Really? How many "Democrats" raise George Soros as a bogeyman in their NRA talking points? SunSeeker Mar 2013 #99

That post you referenced didn't make Soros a bogeyman. NutmegYankee Mar 2013 #102

It was a right wing talking point that the left has a bottomless ATM in George Soros. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #112

How would I know? NutmegYankee Mar 2013 #113

You can't be on my jury anyway - your name is on my jury blacklist. nt hack89 Mar 2013 #233

Of course it is. That is how you stay on this board. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #239

I just discovered that feature - Skinner mentioned it yesterday in ATA. hack89 Mar 2013 #277

Riiiiight. Well, nice to know I'm special after all. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #289

I can only block five people hack89 Mar 2013 #293

You are offensive enough that plenty of people have you on ignore and can't be on your jury. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #294

Which is why you and I have this opportunity to interact. hack89 Mar 2013 #297

Three hours? Over two hours of which he spent deleting e-mails and disposing of his hard drive. Common Sense Party Mar 2013 #92

And he had to go back to his room to reload. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #97

AR-15 bullets are fairly small. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #119

AR-15 bullets are not "fairly small." Geez. You guys are unbelievable. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #134

62 grains is much smaller than 235 grains. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #138

"...Lanza was able to vaporize the security door to the school ..." oldhippie Mar 2013 #232

You're offended by "hyperbole" but not by the fact that Lanza blasted out the doors to a school? SunSeeker Mar 2013 #240

Hyperbole ... oldhippie Mar 2013 #246

It was a security door. A rock would not have "blasted out" the glass. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #254

"And he had to go back to his room to reload." CobblePuller Mar 2013 #214

Google VA Tech timeline. nt SunSeeker Mar 2013 #217

No, cite to your source. You made the claim, you support it when challenged. CobblePuller Mar 2013 #299

LOL. I WISH I was having an adult debate. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #300

O.K., better. Now I see what you are talking about. CobblePuller Mar 2013 #304

Don't blame me for your inability to read or use Google. nt SunSeeker Mar 2013 #305

Wrong Lurks Often Mar 2013 #96

Bullshit. See my above post #97. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #98

You don't have the faintest clue what you are talking about n/t Lurks Often Mar 2013 #100

Aah, the gungeoneers' favorite evasion line. nt SunSeeker Mar 2013 #101

Nope, merely recognizing someone who is ignorant of what they are talking about Lurks Often Mar 2013 #103

Same evasion line, but more verbose. Nice try. nt SunSeeker Mar 2013 #111

That post is inaccurate as well ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #152

Bullshit. Certainly not a 22 revolver. nt SunSeeker Mar 2013 #157

Who uses a 22 revolver for anything more than plinking? ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #210

A pearl handled revolver was Reagan's favorite. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #216

And you know that George S. Patton had to say about pearl handled revolvers which asked by a member S_B_Jackson Mar 2013 #225

Patton was in the military; Reagan was a civilian. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #244

It was not a civilian vs military thing in the least ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #249

Yes it was. Reagan fashioned himself a cowboy. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #253

Reagan was an actor...who job it was to fashion himself into roles ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #258

The AR-15 is an excellent military rifle, and that is where it should stay. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #263

The M-4 is an excellent military rifle, the AR-15 not so much ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #265

Indeed, it is the person and their intent, not whatever weapon they choose ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #227

Their intent determines what weapon they choose. nt SunSeeker Mar 2013 #243

That tends to be more availability IME. ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #250

Not the nuts obsessed with mass murder. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #252

They are a miniscule portion of the criminal population ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #259

Yeah, and the 19 hijackers were a minuscule portion of the criminal population as well. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #262

It wasn't even much of a stockpile ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #264

Google it. nt SunSeeker Mar 2013 #266

I have...and its no where near what you describe ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #268

Actually it could easily have ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #108

A magazine change is what stopped the shooter in Tucson. nt SunSeeker Mar 2013 #109

No. The MSM got that wrong. His gun jammed. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #116

Links? Even the gun nut sites say Loughner was trying to reload, as the FBI said. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #122

The FBI said he fired 31 rounds. The mag held 33 rounds. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #126

It figures. No links. No evidence. Just speculation. nt SunSeeker Mar 2013 #128

Here are some links for you: GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #136

So the little old lady lied when she said she grabbed the magazine? SunSeeker Mar 2013 #141

No, but she was mistaken ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #153

Link? SunSeeker Mar 2013 #156

And Aurora... ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #125

I am sure the future mass shooters out there appreciate your tips. nt SunSeeker Mar 2013 #129

I've taught handguns for years...mostly to GLBTs and women ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #133

Good thing no mass murderers hang out on the internet. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #143

You thing mass murderers hang out on DU? ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #151

I "thing" that anyone can read DU. DU posts pop up in Google searches all the time. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #160

Speech recognition can only do so much ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #209

2 mass shootings emloying non-standard magazines and both times there were malfunctions Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2013 #148

The oversize magazines are bling ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #150

You know, one of the things that drew me to the "gungeon" was the fact Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2013 #154

We enjoy your posts too. N/T GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #190

Of course it could have been done with a handgun NickB79 Mar 2013 #237

What you are describing is the functional equivalent of an AR-15... SunSeeker Mar 2013 #238

No it is not and it would not have been banned ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #269

Of Course. Future sales of extended magazines would be banned. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #270

DiFi's bill is dead and that is a good thing ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #271

Control yourself. The administrators have opened up GD Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #273

The Beltway Sniper shootings were done with a Bushmaster jmowreader Mar 2013 #120

And all the shots from the Bushmaster were single shots. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #130

The AR-15 is not just like "any gun." It can hit from a mile away. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #142

Any decent hunting rifle can do that. hack89 Mar 2013 #145

Then why does anyone need an AR-15? nt SunSeeker Mar 2013 #220

Well, you are correct that murders and mass killers don't need them hack89 Mar 2013 #222

Thanks for admitting you don't need your AR-15. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #247

Followed by all semiautomatic handguns, right? hack89 Mar 2013 #278

Homicidal maniacs have a penchant for handguns hack89 Mar 2013 #283

Any rifle chambered for .223 can do that. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #146

Then why oh why are you gungeoneers so intent on holding on to your ARs? SunSeeker Mar 2013 #167

Defending against incrimentalism by gun-grabbers. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #175

Ah yes, can't have that slippery slope! Kinda like if we allow gay marriage people will marry dogs. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #176

Yes, I can have both. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #177

I see, you know when to draw the line when it comes to marriage, but not when it comes to guns. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #178

Actually the AR is a poor performer at longer ranger, mostly due to it caliber ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #149

Yeah, it's amazing the DC sniper managed to hit anyone. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #166

But he could have use any rifle and shot those people hack89 Mar 2013 #168

But not ones that make you feel like Rambo when you hold it. nt SunSeeker Mar 2013 #169

I will have to tell that to my wife and daughter hack89 Mar 2013 #170

I'm sure you're proud. nt SunSeeker Mar 2013 #171

Both of them are very smart and successful hack89 Mar 2013 #172

Me too. That's why I don't keep guns in the house. nt SunSeeker Mar 2013 #173

All of the shots fired by the "DC Sniper" were within 100 yards or closer Lurks Often Mar 2013 #180

Only a big black AR-15 gave him that Rambo, military feel. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #182

Expected response from you Lurks Often Mar 2013 #183

What's your point? That other rifles can shoot straighter than an AR-15? SunSeeker Mar 2013 #186

Merely give you another fact Lurks Often Mar 2013 #189

That is not a fact. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #195

The fact was that all of the "DC Sniper" shots were within 100 yards. Lurks Often Mar 2013 #203

But you HAVE already commented on the 2013 AWB. And that is not what I am asking anyway. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #215

Since I am not in favor of an AWB Lurks Often Mar 2013 #224

But one of your grounds for being against it is that it is "only cosmetic." SunSeeker Mar 2013 #245

Let's try this again Lurks Often Mar 2013 #284

What if it was written to close all the holes? SunSeeker Mar 2013 #285

So after you save 250 lives a year, what about the other 30,000 gun deaths? hack89 Mar 2013 #286

UBC, mag limits, education/PSAs on how guns in the home endanger your life. nt SunSeeker Mar 2013 #287

So you will ban guns to save 250 lives but not to save 30,000? hack89 Mar 2013 #290

No it would not Lurks Often Mar 2013 #296

LOL. Lanza could NOT have done what he did with a "common pump action shotgun." SunSeeker Mar 2013 #301

He could have done it with a handgun. Remember Va Tech? nt hack89 Mar 2013 #306

He was quite competent ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #207

You don't have to be a "quite competent" shooter to commit mass murder with an AR-15. nt SunSeeker Mar 2013 #218

Depends on the circumstances and in many situations handguns would be just as effective ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #228

Not in THIS situation. Not when you've got 26 people to mow down and only a few minutes to do it. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #241

Actually in that situation as well ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #248

Right, if they just had you as their "Professor." SunSeeker Mar 2013 #255

I leave the advanced firearms instruction to those in the training business ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #257

More like 200 meters maximum-practical jmowreader Mar 2013 #201

I know - about 1.5 a year hack89 Mar 2013 #144

Yeah, it's nothing. Mowing down 26 people is just one shooting. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #242

I didn't read where he said that ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #260

What do you think he meant by 1.5 a year? SunSeeker Mar 2013 #261

I am not coming to his rescue ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #267

And yet that AWB you support would not reduce that number one bit hack89 Mar 2013 #280

You are misinformed. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #35

Anything to Make Big Bucks otohara Mar 2013 #38

The gun industry obeyed the law, exactly as it was written. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #107

Tweak the morality of gun makers all you want, Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #274

The fact that you don't 'feel' safe... Bay Boy Mar 2013 #67

You're A Man otohara Mar 2013 #74

You kind of changed subjects there... Bay Boy Mar 2013 #75

I'm Just Lucky There Were No Guns otohara Mar 2013 #76

The corollary is Bay Boy Mar 2013 #81

Guns don't protect women. A gun in the house is more likely to be used on her than an intruder. nt SunSeeker Mar 2013 #114

You don't mind regurgitating a lie... Bay Boy Mar 2013 #115

Stats prove having a gun in the house ain't gonna protect you; it will kill you. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #117

I know that you know that Kellerman is Bay Boy Mar 2013 #131

I have not seen anyone "discredit" Kellerman. Where are your stats? Links? nt SunSeeker Mar 2013 #135

Serious? You must have had blinders on then... Bay Boy Mar 2013 #158

Thank you for confirming Kellerman's accuracy. nt SunSeeker Mar 2013 #159

Blinders still firmly on... Bay Boy Mar 2013 #161

Project much? nt SunSeeker Mar 2013 #165

There is also this: Bay Boy Mar 2013 #162

Bullshit, a suicide IS a gun death. You can't take that out of the equation. nt SunSeeker Mar 2013 #164

It is dangerous to have a violent criminal for a signifigant other. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #124

That is one reason why my wife carries a gun on her person. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #121

Rape is not about "desire." And your story does not comport with reality. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #127

True, rape is not about sexual desire, but is about domination. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #139

I didn't call your wife a liar, just that your story does not comport with reality (statistics). SunSeeker Mar 2013 #140

That depends upon if her partner is a law-abiding person. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #147

Adam Lanza was a "law-abiding person" until he killed 27 people, including his mom. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #163

Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck... GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #174

None of that refutes the fact that you're 43 times more likely to be killed by your own gun. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #221

Kellerman refutes that. He now says it is only 2.7 times hack89 Mar 2013 #223

Bullshit. "Being murdered" is a different statistic. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #251

"While Kellerman has backed away from his previous statement that people are “43 times more likely”. hack89 Mar 2013 #279

That was his 1986 study - the one that he eventually backed away from in 1993 hack89 Mar 2013 #282

He didn't "back away" from it. No one has controverted what he found. nt SunSeeker Mar 2013 #288

So why is he now saying 2.7 times instead of 43? hack89 Mar 2013 #291

The 43 refers to deaths; the 2.7 to murders. nt SunSeeker Mar 2013 #292

No - try again hack89 Mar 2013 #295

I already went through this with your buddies up the thread. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #298

I gave you the link. Perhaps you should read it? nt hack89 Mar 2013 #307

I did. It is a Wikipedia page that describes "pro-gun groups' claims" against Kellerman. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #308

You see all those little numbers in the text? hack89 Mar 2013 #310

Yes, and there are none supporting your "backed away" statement. SunSeeker Apr 2013 #311

This message was self-deleted by its author hack89 Apr 2013 #312

Sounds like the 50s Rolaids ad on T.V. Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #275

Is it possible that some of the rudeness you see from pro-gun posters is a result ... spin Mar 2013 #137

I feel safe from crime; problem where you are? Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #272

Correlation without causation. Maybe gun deaths would be declining even faster if there yellowcanine Mar 2013 #181

The implication was that more guns would produce more deaths. hack89 Mar 2013 #184

We don't know that they didn't. My point. yellowcanine Mar 2013 #187

But there will still be fewer deaths in absolute numbers hack89 Mar 2013 #188

A focus on suicide prevention would include the issue of guns. yellowcanine Mar 2013 #191

Suicide is a complex thing hack89 Mar 2013 #192

"No gun law....would stop suicide." False choice. yellowcanine Mar 2013 #194

So what specific laws should we pass? hack89 Mar 2013 #196

If we could do it without casting too wide a net, yes. yellowcanine Mar 2013 #197

Since NY is the first state to pass such a law hack89 Mar 2013 #198

There are many other ways of suicide than pills or guns. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #226

Yes of course but pills/poison are # 1 way for women, guns # 1 way for men in U.S. yellowcanine Mar 2013 #231

Suicide is a risk to myself that I am willing to accept. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #234

What works for you as an individual is not necessarily what works for yellowcanine Mar 2013 #236

That is not what this country is about, fortunately. Socal31 Apr 2013 #318

If gun deaths are going down, then no one needs one to protect themselves... Comrade_McKenzie Apr 2013 #314

I don't own guns for self protection - so I think I will keep mine. nt hack89 Apr 2013 #315

There's always a panic on guns and ammo when any gun/ammo bill is in the works sakabatou Mar 2013 #2

You can't buy 9mm ammo anywhere. NutmegYankee Mar 2013 #33

I haven't seen any handgun ammo including 22s for weeks. The nut jobs doc03 Mar 2013 #65

Absolute panic out there. NutmegYankee Mar 2013 #71

I was at Cabelas yesterday, you should have heard some of the comments about doc03 Mar 2013 #73

Half those guys would blame the President for a stomach ache NutmegYankee Mar 2013 #84

And the salesman thank him... Bay Boy Mar 2013 #132

Sure you can, if you are willing to pay. Socal31 Apr 2013 #325

Yup! Lots of jobs........ rdharma Mar 2013 #3

So where are the corresponding numbers showing an increase for these jobs? Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2013 #8

Thought provoking graphic...thanks!..nt Paul E Ester Mar 2013 #44

And yet they only claim 10. baldguy Mar 2013 #123

LOUC geckosfeet Mar 2013 #5

A booming economy? Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2013 #6

It would be interesting. History says there will be no increase in gun violence. nt hack89 Mar 2013 #7

The only thing increasing will be my skepticism that gun control is about saving lives. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2013 #10

"Unacceptable" gun violence is increasing as most of us mature and become more civilized. n/t Hoyt Mar 2013 #30

We have more than enough gun violence now. n/t TheCowsCameHome Mar 2013 #60

Which is why we need universal background checks hack89 Mar 2013 #62

Not necessarily primavera Mar 2013 #199

I think you're guessing wrong Lurks Often Mar 2013 #204

Then we probably will see more gun deaths - n/t primavera Mar 2013 #212

I have lost all faith in CNN being a good cable news source. Iliyah Mar 2013 #11

I suppose "the NRA and their allies" also tell the FBI to fudge their reports too? DonP Mar 2013 #13

What proof is there that gun sales are declining? nt hack89 Mar 2013 #17

You are going to have to wait on that answer. Clames Mar 2013 #46

Ok, you say that, but... Bay Boy Mar 2013 #66

ummm skinnytrees Mar 2013 #211

So what happens once we transfer all our disposable income into arms and ammo? bluedigger Mar 2013 #14

Ammo has a constant demand as it is a consumable. hack89 Mar 2013 #18

At some point the market becomes saturated with both, and demand declines. bluedigger Mar 2013 #20

It depends how smart the gun and ammo manufacturers are hack89 Mar 2013 #23

I thought the premise was that this was a job creator. bluedigger Mar 2013 #24

There will be growth. There are future customers hack89 Mar 2013 #27

"No one is stockpiling". bluedigger Mar 2013 #32

Those "stockpiles" are not huge amounts. hack89 Mar 2013 #39

Why is it a hot item now is underground ammo storage containers? n/t doc03 Mar 2013 #68

Was talking to a Cabelas employee the other day he said right after Newtown people doc03 Mar 2013 #70

Maybe if you read the article... Clames Mar 2013 #47

Wages of death MotherPetrie Mar 2013 #26

How about homicide investigators and EMT's? TheCowsCameHome Mar 2013 #28

History would say no. hack89 Mar 2013 #29

Broken Record otohara Mar 2013 #42

You think more guns = more deaths. Just setting you straight. hack89 Mar 2013 #45

Also physical therapists, counselors, lobbyists Doctor_J Mar 2013 #40

Pittman-Robertson tax receipts set a new record last year as well, petronius Mar 2013 #48

A fact free propaganda piece. Doesn't even say HOW MANY jobs were ACTUALLY ADDED. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #49

+1 Blue_Tires Mar 2013 #235

If I made guns I'd work to get financial disclosure laws repealed jmowreader Mar 2013 #54

I think we are trying to create "good jobs," not the production of lethal weapons, some of which Hoyt Mar 2013 #55

Fortunately your comments don't apply to the vast majority of gun owners hack89 Mar 2013 #56

I think they do -- cowboy/police wannabes, compensators, irresponsible, those who care little for Hoyt Mar 2013 #59

I am reassured with people like you on the pro-gun control team. nt hack89 Mar 2013 #63

Dude, you gotta think up another evasion line--that one is getting old. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #78

Twice is getting old? Missed that memo. Sorry. nt hack89 Mar 2013 #80

Bumper stickers are the last recourse of idiots. LanternWaste Mar 2013 #93

As long as some machinists get hired, the carnage is worth it. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2013 #58

Just coughed up a lung. Hoyt Mar 2013 #61

I like to push the economic benefits, however scarce, of my sacred cows too. LanternWaste Mar 2013 #69

How many jobs? 10? Robb Mar 2013 #72

I have friends at Ruger Mopar151 Mar 2013 #105

So, Ruger is using cheap, non-union labor to increase production and profits. Hoyt Mar 2013 #155

Ruger has never been union, or a great place to work. Mopar151 Mar 2013 #179

Yet so-called Democratic gun cultists buy/accumulate Rugers. That is interesting. Hoyt Mar 2013 #185

And I guess that applies WinniSkipper Mar 2013 #200

Yes. Dedication to guns is a problem in our society. Hoyt Mar 2013 #202

But that wasn't your point now, was it? WinniSkipper Mar 2013 #205

That's pretty much my point in all post related to guns. What is your point? Hoyt Mar 2013 #208

Hehe. Here's where the real money is. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2013 #118

Duh - it's always about the $$$. B$27.8/yr ... TBF Mar 2013 #193

I sure hope they get 380,45,40 and 9mm back on the shelves soon. ileus Mar 2013 #206

Good news. Better to have the manufacturing here instead of overseas. Pterodactyl Mar 2013 #213

The article contains no facts. How many jobs did this so-called gun "jobs boom" create? SunSeeker Mar 2013 #219

The article says 10 people are being added to a group of 35 in the company noted. Pterodactyl Mar 2013 #302

I did read the article. "Hiring" means he planned to hire, not that he HIRED 10 people. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #303

I did not claim a boom. I merely said it was good. Pterodactyl Mar 2013 #309

What "good news" of a "difference in the lives of the workers" does the article state? SunSeeker Apr 2013 #313

You seem angry about something. Are you upset? Pterodactyl Apr 2013 #316

I'm just calling out bullshit. It's what us progressives do here on DU. nt SunSeeker Apr 2013 #319

You're right. Any reports of new jobs are suspect to begin with. Pterodactyl Apr 2013 #320

I tend to go with Labor Dept. jobs reports. CNN factless puff pieces? Not so much. nt SunSeeker Apr 2013 #321

Yeah. I'm glad I still have a job. Not true for some of the folks I used to work with. Pterodactyl Apr 2013 #322

The economy is slowly improving, but gun manufacturing jobs aren't where the growth is. SunSeeker Apr 2013 #323

I agree. The slow recovery has been amazing. Pterodactyl Apr 2013 #324

What other admin do you believe could have done more? nt SunSeeker Apr 2013 #326

No one, of course. Except maybe John Kerry. Pterodactyl Apr 2013 #327

If you legalized slaughtering babies and making hats out of thier skin bowens43 Mar 2013 #229

No. nt hack89 Mar 2013 #230

No. How 'bout you? nt Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #276

The last defense of an indefensible busines is "...but it creates JOBS!!!" 2ndAmForComputers Apr 2013 #317

So much bullshit , it's hard to know where to start ...1. .$10/hr for machinists... pkdu Mar 2013 #256

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