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278. NO Way...I have paid into SS and Medicare for 40 years...Entitlement my ass

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Obama Tells Democrats They Must Be Open to Entitlement Changes [View all] NeoConsSuck Mar 2013 OP

No shit? nt MannyGoldstein Mar 2013 #1

Negotiating with the wrong people Roy Rolling Mar 2013 #112

This is more of BHO's patented 11 Dimensional Bullsh!t: blkmusclmachine Mar 2013 #122

No way in hell will this Democrat be open to that. Autumn Mar 2013 #2

I agree! Owl Mar 2013 #81

I also agree. I also don't like tis "softened tone" that I am hearing glinda Mar 2013 #123

Send me a euthanasia pill, I don't like cat food. Downwinder Mar 2013 #3

No. We just had an election all about this. No. No. No. That is all. nt silvershadow Mar 2013 #4

Unfortunately, neither candidate was on the side of the American people. FiveGoodMen Mar 2013 #227

More of the same Yo_Mama Mar 2013 #5

Screw that, it's time to reform campaign finance and top this idiotic, legalized bribery of our Pols Dustlawyer Mar 2013 #209

You're right. And this should also be done on the local level. Contact each Democratic mayor, etc. AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #223

I hadn't thought of that Yo_Mama Mar 2013 #234

Senator Warren rickyhall Mar 2013 #6

I Think Bernie Sanders Is Really ChiciB1 Mar 2013 #15

I just emailed whitehouse.gov with my dismay. xtraxritical Mar 2013 #108

Sorry Obama, you tell the GOP adieu Mar 2013 #7

But he would NEVER do that... Arctic Dave Mar 2013 #8

Yes, though I guess Obamacare should have told us that :( n/t Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #38

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #252

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #52

No, the best way to keep Social Security viable for the foreseeable future is to get our Living Wage RC Mar 2013 #74

x2. AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #224

If it walks like a Republican and talks like a Republican, blkmusclmachine Mar 2013 #120

Eh, what we've got here is another Reformer with Results. jsr Mar 2013 #137

a poster or two? There is an official DU GROUP dedicated to them Skittles Mar 2013 #128

Yep. Their MO is deny, deny, deny. Arctic Dave Mar 2013 #198

Alice Walker said it. 840high Mar 2013 #228

Very smart woman. ronnie624 Mar 2013 #250

That she is. Honest woman. 840high Mar 2013 #265

So uhm ...does anyone smell a rat yet? n/t L0oniX Mar 2013 #9

read: OKNancy Mar 2013 #10

But that's not what he told them to be ready for. nt caseymoz Mar 2013 #44

+1. pacalo Mar 2013 #87

This message was self-deleted by its author demwing Mar 2013 #109

That's the part that's totally skipped over by those who Cha Mar 2013 #146

You bolded the wrong part of the quote ... Nihil Mar 2013 #211

Here is my grand bargain.....fuck with SS and I stay home for the 2014 elections. yourout Mar 2013 #11

Ditto MotherPetrie Mar 2013 #21

Ever think that is what they want... TheProgressive Mar 2013 #23

I think President Obama John2 Mar 2013 #27

well said. He is destroying what remains of the Dem party bbgrunt Mar 2013 #165

That's my inclination, too, EXCEPT that'd leave the field wide open for more damage Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #33

Me as well. I am done playing with them Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #41

And so will we: this is the GOP's only hope to hold the House in 2014 and maybe indepat Mar 2013 #43

History is written by the victors. zeemike Mar 2013 #96

Our grand children will be much more concerned about how to try surviving a Venus-lite climate Amonester Mar 2013 #173

Help Republicans hold the House, that will help protect entitlements michigandem58 Mar 2013 #60

If I have to choose between Dems slashing SS or Republicans slashing SS I would rather have the.... yourout Mar 2013 #73

It's astonishing that these "DUers" don't appear to understand that BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #138

Obama is the one waving the white flag, taking the Repug position Dragonfli Mar 2013 #148

Bullshit. The faster Leftists understand that the most powerful branch of our gov't is CONGRESS BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #153

Sell your snake oil third way Republican bulshit to someone that's buying. Dragonfli Mar 2013 #155

Get a fucking clue. President Obama can have a decree that he'd like pink unicorns for every BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #157

Stop lying, read again who was telling who to get ready to fuck with entitlements Dragonfli Mar 2013 #159

The Senate refused to change the filibuster rule, so everything this president does is BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #161

You still deny the reports? All of them? He really is the one making the offers you know Dragonfli Mar 2013 #163

Bravo, Dragonfli Carolina Mar 2013 #189

do you notice the deniers getting more and more hysterical? Skittles Mar 2013 #241

yes I have, I really think this one needs help, I don't say that sarcastically Dragonfli Mar 2013 #242

bs bbgrunt Mar 2013 #168

Bullshit, the left voted in 2010 Fumesucker Mar 2013 #185

That's not what I'm reading here, so bullshit back to you. BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #210

DU just passed 200,000 registrations not all that long ago Fumesucker Mar 2013 #244

I wasn't limiting what Leftists post on DU alone, but you're right, BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #246

So what you're saying is, bitchkitty Mar 2013 #253

No. What I'm saying is, let's not jump to conclusions since BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #261

This message was self-deleted by its author sammy27932003 Mar 2013 #274

Oh puhleeze Carolina Mar 2013 #186

Um . . . just to refresh your memory . . . Obama NEVER campaigned on single-payer. BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #247

Ah, but he mentioned it Carolina Mar 2013 #266

Wrong, sweetie. Mentioning does not a campaign make. BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #267

you are beyond the pale, a real Carolina Mar 2013 #294

If you do not want a grand bargain you better vote in 2014 and win the House back krawhitham Mar 2013 #68

He had the House for two years and pissed it away making nice with his Repub and WallSt overlords. Lionessa Mar 2013 #149

A fact conveniently ignored by devotees and propagandists jsr Mar 2013 #167

Touche, Lionessa Carolina Mar 2013 #187

Maybe it's the processed foods. WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2013 #291

Amen! n/t markpkessinger Mar 2013 #275

You do know that this "crisis" and the desire for a "grand bargain" is not Autumn Mar 2013 #229

1.1 million more votes were cast for Democratic House candidates than for Republican candidates markpkessinger Mar 2013 #276

Same here. But I doubt Obama cares. Seems like he WANTS to destroy the Democratic Party. forestpath Mar 2013 #98

Never give up your vote. Le Taz Hot Mar 2013 #180

This is all built on the assumption that Boehner is a competent Speaker. nyquil_man Mar 2013 #12

LOL... Is it in any way appropriate though, Volaris Mar 2013 #221

I'm open to changing the entitlements that the oil corporations are receiving. olddad56 Mar 2013 #13

And we can add entitlements to big banks, and big ag. Lionessa Mar 2013 #17

And how do you think that'll happen with a filibustering Senate BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #139

Let the caving to Republican principles begin again... UGH! F', Obama, you ran on the opposite! Lionessa Mar 2013 #14

Sorry, but I refuse to accept his part in dismantling the New Deal. Cleita Mar 2013 #16

He's been dead to me ever since he didn't put a moratorium on banks over robo-signing. Lionessa Mar 2013 #20

It's a good thing your opinion didn't have him lose re-election, BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #141

Most of us would rather deal with the devils we know Occulus Mar 2013 #271

Sure. If that's the excuse you want to propagate. But I'm not buying it. BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #280

While the wealthy pay next to nothing in real dollars? Not hardly. MichiganVote Mar 2013 #18

This Democrat to President Obama: MotherPetrie Mar 2013 #19

Uh, yeah, ditto. TDale313 Mar 2013 #64

+100 Myrina Mar 2013 #215

^this Aquavit Mar 2013 #268

Turncoat... TheProgressive Mar 2013 #22

Fuck that! Pharaoh Mar 2013 #24

Calling ProSense shawn703 Mar 2013 #25

In fairness, I think ProSense has had it with offering MannyGoldstein Mar 2013 #36

Or maybe ProSense has had it with so-called Liberals on DU BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #143

WTF? Le Taz Hot Mar 2013 #182

+1 ...it's like they are saying "how dare you criticize my perfect idol" L0oniX Mar 2013 #214

^^ Thank you, Le Taz ^^ Myrina Mar 2013 #216

WTF? BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #248

There's so much wrong with this post Le Taz Hot Mar 2013 #256

Why wrong? Because they're inconvenient truths to the fringe and their enablers? BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #258

That whooshing sound you heard Le Taz Hot Mar 2013 #263

No fucking shit.... truebrit71 Mar 2013 #290

hyperbole noiretextatique Mar 2013 #235

They all use the same language... it's very Dittohead. WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2013 #293

Hey Manny, ^why didn't you give Obama a congress he could work with,^ how long Dragonfli Mar 2013 #170

something tells me noiretextatique Mar 2013 #236

You need to research for yourself, think for yourself. madfloridian Mar 2013 #37

They are awaiting new talking points JoePhil and sid and the rest of the gang Dragonfli Mar 2013 #40

I'm waiting for ..."Obama figures that if he is for it then the repukes will fight against it. n/t L0oniX Mar 2013 #124

That's a popular one, variation 38 of the multi-dimensional chess apologetic, truly a classic Dragonfli Mar 2013 #152

They'll give you their opinion as soon as they receive it. /nt Marr Mar 2013 #92

NOT a good idea Skittles Mar 2013 #130

You look to ProSense for wisdom? Le Taz Hot Mar 2013 #183

And Dems should tell him that no changes without a huge raise in the cap. jwirr Mar 2013 #26

Exactly TexasBushwhacker Mar 2013 #273

I have been Coolest Ranger Mar 2013 #28

Could it be a bluff? rainy Mar 2013 #29

Bluffing who? Democrats? Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #46

No, no, no and no. plain enough. WHEN CRABS ROAR Mar 2013 #30

For all the you've-got-to-be-more-patient types, how much longer? AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #31

looks that way nt Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #47

Now they'll just disappear, or tell you it's all YOUR fault because you didn't "push him". Marr Mar 2013 #94

I thought we had a "broad, bipartisan deficit-reduction deal" quakerboy Mar 2013 #32

No, No, No........ Swede Atlanta Mar 2013 #34

one might ask, "why is a democratic president arguing for the republican position"? nt msongs Mar 2013 #35

Why did he fight for the GOP plan on healthcare reform? Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #49

One might also ask, "if a democratic president argues the GOP view, is he a Democrat" Dragonfli Mar 2013 #50

Perhaps it's because we have an effective Republican Congress? eom BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #144

Well that doesn't hold water since he pissed away his very own two years of effective Dem Congress. Lionessa Mar 2013 #169

Nothing we little folk do will have an effect on him anymore, just those up for election. madfloridian Mar 2013 #39

re: Obama Tells Democrats They Must Be Open to Entitlement Changes allan01 Mar 2013 #42

I totally agree with Pres Obama. We must change our social safety network. rhett o rick Mar 2013 #45

I'm with you, Rhett O Rick! Useless in FL Mar 2013 #48

The fact that you cant believe it reveals the huge problem we have in America. rhett o rick Mar 2013 #89

I second that, Rhett O Rick! midnight Mar 2013 #129

I third that. n/t RebelOne Mar 2013 #222

Endgame Teamster Jeff Mar 2013 #51

Wall Street and our corporate overlords have spoken, and the Word for the poor is Fire Walk With Me Mar 2013 #53

It all seems so calculated, doesn't it? blkmusclmachine Mar 2013 #121

I think a lotta John2 Mar 2013 #54

you're assuming that voting rights are upheld by the SC bbgrunt Mar 2013 #171

I, for one, am pleased that we're making common-sense tough choices about MannyGoldstein Mar 2013 #55

So you believe in the Soylent Green solution? Swede Atlanta Mar 2013 #58

A friend of mine did Peace Corps in Fiji MannyGoldstein Mar 2013 #62

His legacy Old Codger Mar 2013 #56

Here will be his legacy: AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #119

Fooled ya! blkmusclmachine Mar 2013 #131

The worse thing is that he's still doing it AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #133

I see excellent dental care jsr Mar 2013 #166

Everyone who is retired, decayincl Mar 2013 #57

No. aquart Mar 2013 #59

+1 nt Xipe Totec Mar 2013 #67

What else was discussed at this meeting? NeoConsSuck Mar 2013 #61

This... exactly n/t Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #78

A slick talker can fool. blkmusclmachine Mar 2013 #125

I couldn't agree with you more Carolina Mar 2013 #190

What part of "You won the election" confuses him? Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #63

The part that the House AND Senate is still solidly under Republican control. BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #145

Everyone knows about the filibuster... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #172

Well, there's no nice guy Obama if we are to believe the words that have come straight from his BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #206

What he doesn't get is that he's dealing with punks. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #231

The Senate is still solidly under Republican control? NeoConsSuck Mar 2013 #174

One word, Einstein: FILIBUSTER. BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #204

Don't forget to mention that kjackson227 Mar 2013 #232

It's obvious by now that he IS one, dreamnightwind Mar 2013 #237

Bullshit hyperbole. BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #249

Saying he's a conservative dem is hyperbole? dreamnightwind Mar 2013 #257

Yes. It is. A Conservative Dem is a Dem like Manchin or Landrieu or Ben Nelson. BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #259

Completely disagree dreamnightwind Mar 2013 #260

The public secret in our government is, Congress, not the White House, is the most powerful BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #262

LOL dreamnightwind Mar 2013 #264

No. It's based on his policies. YOURS, however, is opinion BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #282

I pay close attention to his policies dreamnightwind Mar 2013 #283

So do the GOP. But that doesn't mean they get it. BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #284

Welcome to ignore dreamnightwind Mar 2013 #285

Back at ya! eom BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #286

No, that would be the judiciary. Again you are wrong. Occulus Mar 2013 #270

Bullshit. Congress, not the Judicial branch, is the most powerful branch of gov't, and the fact BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #281

100% true. And it couldn't have been clearer than when they voted *against* BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #251

Democrats control the Senate, which is why Reid is called 'Majority Leader'. Bluenorthwest Mar 2013 #201

Bullshit. Republicans effectively control the Senate - through filibustering. BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #203

Cave one bit and it will all be gone. liberal N proud Mar 2013 #65

CONFUSED SamKnause Mar 2013 #66

Changes ≠ Cuts krawhitham Mar 2013 #69

I would like to say i am sorry donnasgirl Mar 2013 #70

No. Just no. This is a country where the richest The Second Stone Mar 2013 #71

Write cate94 Mar 2013 #72

It is a real Grand Betrayal...... wasserman Mar 2013 #75

I doubt if it will happen, but....... socialist_n_TN Mar 2013 #76

um They_Live Mar 2013 #77

I'm not gonna read this thread because ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2013 #79

In all honesty do you think that the pukes would ever accept Autumn Mar 2013 #90

Noe ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2013 #142

If the goose is cooked, I'm leaving the table RVN VET Mar 2013 #80

1 Party, 2 Faces. blkmusclmachine Mar 2013 #132

Not no way not no how... 2naSalit Mar 2013 #82

No. (nt) w4rma Mar 2013 #83

No thanks, I'm not open to that high density Mar 2013 #84

Go away President Obama....... Hotler Mar 2013 #85

No--if Obama doesn't give up this DLC shit, progressive Dems should triangulate him yurbud Mar 2013 #86

Surely this is just a BRILIIANT ROPE-A-DOPE! Marr Mar 2013 #88

Stop giving me a nervous breakdown over these threats to cut entitlements. Auntie Bush Mar 2013 #91

Namby Pamby JEB Mar 2013 #93

The "Democrats" got us to this bad place. blkmusclmachine Mar 2013 #134

Open? Our rights have been cut open so much our guts are falling out! Lint Head Mar 2013 #95

Uhmmm...... Phlem Mar 2013 #97

FUCK THAT SHIT. forestpath Mar 2013 #99

You better tell'em! HoosierRadical Mar 2013 #102

Once you let the stink into the room 4dsc Mar 2013 #100

Hell to the Muthaf@#!kin NAW! HoosierRadical Mar 2013 #101

WTF? OhioChick Mar 2013 #103

So a handful of gerrymandered JEB Mar 2013 #104

LIFT THE FICA CAP + TIE IT TO INFLATION FIRST! pansypoo53219 Mar 2013 #105

Uh... no. No they mustn't. AlbertCat Mar 2013 #106

Fuck this demwing Mar 2013 #116

I would rather they did NOTHING till the 2014 elections Politicalboi Mar 2013 #107

No changes to Social Security and Medicare, period steve2470 Mar 2013 #110

Fuck That... WillyT Mar 2013 #111

we have been getting screwed in the arse for years and now they want to screw us even more? indivisibleman Mar 2013 #113

And I tell him to fuck off the middle class is done Fearless Mar 2013 #114

President needs to stop negotiating with himself. kiranon Mar 2013 #115

We should create a petition asking Obama to switch to the (R) side brentspeak Mar 2013 #117

I'm tired from fighting the GOPtea decayincl Mar 2013 #126

Willing tool for the 1%. blkmusclmachine Mar 2013 #118

Let's see. Third Doctor Mar 2013 #127

Ditto. smirkymonkey Mar 2013 #179

Does Barack Obama want Democrats to lose in 2014? jsr Mar 2013 #135

When the Newest Reality Mar 2013 #136

I am not open to it -- if I were, I would have voted Republican Samantha Mar 2013 #140

Ahh...another BASH OBAMA thread. BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #147

"Leftists never cease to amaze me" says the rightist Dragonfli Mar 2013 #150

Naw. I'm no "rightist". I'm a DEMOCRAT who supports our DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT. BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #154

No, you support one man, and say fuck you to the party Dragonfli Mar 2013 #158

More bullshit from the LooneyLeft Brigade. BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #160

Oh my god, you are crazy after all, wish you better health, btw Dragonfli Mar 2013 #162

Don't bother. ForgoTheConsequence Mar 2013 #164

"Obama needs to be held accountable" ? For ....................what? cstanleytech Mar 2013 #178

+ more ones than will fit in this box. n/t L0oniX Mar 2013 #213

You're delusional. You? Mainstream?? Bwaaaahahaha! BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #208

"Only the extremes on the Left are." No, the right also has them, they are just hiding under cstanleytech Mar 2013 #217

Sounds like the title of a thread from freeperville Doctor_J Mar 2013 #194

Callin' em as I sees 'em. BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #207

I'm surprised you didn't say "moonbats". Occulus Mar 2013 #272

Public option. JEB Mar 2013 #151

One word: CONGRESS. BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #156

You are really unbelieveable, BCD Carolina Mar 2013 #191

The unrealistic Leftists like you and others infesting this Democratic Party site BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #202

blah, blah, blah Carolina Mar 2013 #239

Another Dem bashing liberals Doctor_J Mar 2013 #192

Hey Buddy, you said so yourself I AM A DEM. BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #200

Daily Kos is ultra-LEFT?? Occulus Mar 2013 #218

Actually, the "anti-Obamanites" are at FreedomWorks. WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2013 #296

The article is using direct quotes. The reporter is not distorting, or passing along rumors. Demit Mar 2013 #197

Direct from the horse's mouth: BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #199

The horse's mouth is at the OTHER end Occulus Mar 2013 #220

I know he claims to be a Democrat. I know he runs as a Democrat. Demit Mar 2013 #233

If he keeps this shit up he isn't going to be elected to a third term still_one Mar 2013 #175

Yes, I am very open to changes. I completely agree. gtar100 Mar 2013 #176

If Obama had public ally taken this position on entitlements prior to his nomination, we might ladjf Mar 2013 #177

If he'd taken it public during the GE campaign, Rmoney would be president Doctor_J Mar 2013 #193

no MFM008 Mar 2013 #181

fuck any deal that touches medicare or social security. bowens43 Mar 2013 #184

I dont think this is new information... he has made similar statements in the past. DCBob Mar 2013 #188

I don't see any post saying they are surprised. Disgusted is a better word for the mood of the Bluenorthwest Mar 2013 #205

Then why 200+ responses to something people arent surprised about? DCBob Mar 2013 #212

this news sweetapogee Mar 2013 #195

K&R DeSwiss Mar 2013 #196

OH, NOES!!! Bring on the calvary!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2013 #219

Obama and the Republicans should be open to job-deficit changes. AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #225

He NEVER misses an opportunity to say that. FiveGoodMen Mar 2013 #226

Fuck that noise... truebrit71 Mar 2013 #230

start with their salaries and benefits - make them have to take on the same healthcare everyone else 2Design Mar 2013 #238

No fucking way alarimer Mar 2013 #240

If millions are still be spent in Iraq and Afghanistan then there is no deal Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2013 #243

Obama doesn't have to get reelected ...they do lovuian Mar 2013 #245

The people they're really working for will find them nice new jobs. FiveGoodMen Mar 2013 #295

Is it possible to live with Republicans? gordianot Mar 2013 #254

Your position is somewhat inconsistent - if you oppose 100% off all, then you oppose Rand Paul's 24601 Mar 2013 #288

What kind of "changes" does he have in mind? subterranean Mar 2013 #255

He's right... Orsino Mar 2013 #269

You never negotiate with hostage takers.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2013 #277

NO Way...I have paid into SS and Medicare for 40 years...Entitlement my ass ELI BOY 1950 Mar 2013 #278

No Notafraidtoo Mar 2013 #279

No what though? cstanleytech Mar 2013 #287

Fuck.That.Shit. truebrit71 Mar 2013 #289

We do, we just dont have them in majority control over congress nor are they the majority cstanleytech Mar 2013 #292

Fuck. No. NuttyFluffers Mar 2013 #297