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enlightenment

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30. You aren't grasping what I'm saying.
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 04:15 PM
Feb 2013

There are plenty of online courses available and many offer full video and even live interactive content with the instructor. They are facilitated, planned courses that provide an environment where a self-motivated student can "drive" their own education and learning process - and prove that they have acquired the knowledge and/or skills required to be considered competent.

MOOCs are "online" only in their platform. Then are not - at this point - viable alternatives for credit-based assessment. One day they will be; but they aren't now.

If you want to enroll in a MOOC for personal enrichment, then go for it. I have. Some are very interesting. The "chat" discussions are worthless - far too many people, frankly - and the assessments (not always offered) and projects are the equivalent of studying flash cards. No real assessment of material studied or skills learned. But the lectures are often very good.

I am astonished that people (in general, not you specifically) complain about large class sizes at university and then embrace the idea of taking an online course with ten or twenty or forty thousand other students. I suppose if one believes that taking a class is sufficient, that no assessment is needed and completion proves competency, then the current format of most MOOCs is indeed the future.

I'm not sure that I would want to (for example) take my taxes to an accountant who earned their degree in that fashion, but everyone's mileage differs.

In my opinion - and the opinion of many others - MOOCs just aren't ready to become credit-based assessment tools.

http://digital.hechingerreport.org/content/my-first-mooc-crashed_371/
http://digital.hechingerreport.org/content/addendum-to-mooc-crash_388/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+hechingerreport%2FphyU+%28Digital%29

That isn't saying they can't be. This blog post by someone who designs online courses, offers some very good ideas about what MOOCs need to do to improve.
http://onlinelearninginsights.wordpress.com/
The one thing it does not address is the unlimited size of the courses. An instructor may not be "leading" a MOOC, but the courses still require human interaction. Can one or two or even a dozen people adequately facilitate a class of 40,000?

coursera's latest disaster.... mike_c Feb 2013 #1
Dear promoters of on-line education... Deep13 Feb 2013 #2
It is the only way for some to obtain an education. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2013 #3
+1. n/t dgibby Feb 2013 #5
It's no way to obtain an education. Deep13 Feb 2013 #15
Yes it is. And I support it. For some it is their only shot at an education. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2013 #19
Online education has its place in educational options CreekDog Feb 2013 #33
I couldn't agree more! CountAllVotes Feb 2013 #6
Picture yourself at 21, with a young child and two jobs that take up your day ScreamingMeemie Feb 2013 #8
that is what was done CountAllVotes Feb 2013 #17
There is a VERY big difference enlightenment Feb 2013 #18
Online chat discussions can fill in the gap Yavin4 Feb 2013 #27
You aren't grasping what I'm saying. enlightenment Feb 2013 #30
a bit harsh melm00se Feb 2013 #7
unfortunately, the driving force behind online higher ed is not access... mike_c Feb 2013 #9
So we'd better stop free courses, to protect those who can't afford higher education michigandem58 Feb 2013 #10
that's utter nonsense.... mike_c Feb 2013 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Bradical79 Feb 2013 #12
Right back at you -nt Bradical79 Feb 2013 #14
McSchool. nt Deep13 Feb 2013 #16
Supporters of institutional education. joshcryer Feb 2013 #21
As too was said to Gutenberg... but in German, most likely. LanternWaste Feb 2013 #24
Wow, that's quite a statement Duer 157099 Feb 2013 #26
My daughter is using PSEO and online exboyfil Feb 2013 #31
If they universities are to offer credit, they will not (and should not) be free anymore bluestateguy Feb 2013 #4
It seems to be their plan all along. It's $70-100 per course. joshcryer Feb 2013 #23
Excellent development in working around the scam that is for-profit education. nt EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #13
The biggest losers with this technology are going to be the public uni's, not the for-profits. Xithras Feb 2013 #25
Coursera is awesome WilmywoodNCparalegal Feb 2013 #20
The whole ACE CREDIT thing is a scam, anyway. joshcryer Feb 2013 #22
I'm taking an Algorithms course with Coursera right now, and it's kicking my ass Yavin4 Feb 2013 #29
I liked the Python course I took last year exboyfil Feb 2013 #32
Online learning is the future of higher education Yavin4 Feb 2013 #28
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