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krispos42

(49,445 posts)
28. Mass murder machines
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 11:34 AM
Jan 2013

In other words, any gun you don't like.

Men commit most murders. And most murders occur in poor, urban areas, if memory serves. And "most" is not "all". I thought that was obvious, but again...

I didn't say the poor were responsible for most mass murders, though. Sorry.

The poor seem to be affording plenty of murder weapons, and since mass murder is defined as 5 more victims, they by default have mass-murder machines as well. FAIL.



That's what it's all about, isn't it? You despise and fear people that have any interest at all in military hardware or history, and you want to outlaw any action that you think will in any way encourage that kind of interest. Thought police.

And here's a clue: PROPOSED GUN RESTRICTIONS, especially irrational, reflexive, knee-jerk ones, are fantastic business for the gun industry. But you're the one waving the bloody bodies of the Sandy Hook victims, not me.

Gun sales when up under Obama because everybody figured there was a good change he would outlaw certain types of guns. And you know what? Looks like they were right. But people have spend the last 4 years or so buying guns that they figured they wouldn't be able to get in the future. And you know what? It looks like they were right on that one, too.

YOUR side's irrational, knee-jerk reaction to Sandy Hook is SELLING MORE OF THE SAME GUNS YOU WANT TO BAN.

It happened during the 1993 ban, too. People bought far more semiautomatic rifles DURING the ban than before the ban. YOUR SIDE'S work in 1993 actually caused MORE people to buy semiautomatic rifles, and shifted the industry to adapting those rifles to a wide variety of uses above and beyond the "military fetish" you claim they have.



And the corporate interest stuff is ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT.

Why? Because gun companies make the same amount of gun every year, regardless of the laws. Why? Because 15 million guns a year are sold in the country. That is the demand for them. And even if, tomorrow, an assault weapons ban was implemented, there would STILL be 15 million guns sold in 2013. And gun makers would make about the same amount of money.

Your positions are complete and utter horseshit. You seem to think that if the AWB prevents 1 millions guns from being sold, that the number of guns sold will drop by a million.

IT WON'T. A million DIFFERENT guns will be sold instead.


And I'm waiting for you to admit that the corporate media is getting all of this gun control stuff right. And has been since, say 1989, when the movement first started. Because we know that the oligarchy just LOVES the idea of heavily-armed peasants, right? Right?



If I was the gun industry, I'd be pouring money into YOUR side.




And you've made it clear sever times today that you support torture and extraordinary rendition and domestic spying and drone assassination, as long as it has the blessings of the Democratic Party and Democrats. If that's not the very definition of "authoritarian", I'll wait for a better one to come along.

K&R 1-800-980-6944 ........ make the call NOW! secondwind Jan 2013 #1
So I'm to call my Congresscritter and urge them to legalize pot? krispos42 Jan 2013 #2
sure, that too, why not? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #5
"assault weapon" is and will continue to be a red herring krispos42 Jan 2013 #6
it is odd how you make these proclamations of truth out of thin air farminator3000 Jan 2013 #8
It's avoiding the real issue krispos42 Jan 2013 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author BainsBane Jan 2013 #12
no, it is exactly the issue- violence happens because any yahoo can buy any gun they want farminator3000 Jan 2013 #32
So do you think that legislators are clueless... dkf Jan 2013 #44
Well... krispos42 Jan 2013 #45
root causes of violence? BainsBane Jan 2013 #13
You want a list? krispos42 Jan 2013 #14
in other words BainsBane Jan 2013 #18
Mass murder machines krispos42 Jan 2013 #28
your previous post reads like something Lapierre's kid would have written for a school paper farminator3000 Jan 2013 #38
Actually, that was meant specifically for him from a another thread krispos42 Jan 2013 #40
Do not forget daybranch Jan 2013 #27
It aint so. daybranch Jan 2013 #26
I've been around guns a long time myself madville Jan 2013 #33
that's too bad about that. there ahould be a law against it. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #41
Under the AWB she still could have had the same weapons madville Jan 2013 #30
that only makes sense if you are talking about the OLD AWB or one that is too weak farminator3000 Jan 2013 #35
I'm speaking of the present madville Jan 2013 #37
you are not farminator3000 Jan 2013 #39
I've already read it, won't pass in it's current form madville Jan 2013 #42
that's your opinion, i'd say 900 grandfathered guns is quite generous farminator3000 Jan 2013 #43
Whether the law is good or bad is not really the issue madville Jan 2013 #46
the NRA has no right to declare issues or set agendas or influence anyone. it should stop. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #47
why should you support the Democrat Party? BainsBane Jan 2013 #10
The Democratic Party supported extraordinary rendition... krispos42 Jan 2013 #15
brief history lesson BainsBane Jan 2013 #21
And significant portions of Democrats supported those things krispos42 Jan 2013 #22
so you are admitting you hate Democrats? BainsBane Jan 2013 #24
So you're a noble crusader now, and I'm a child-killer? krispos42 Jan 2013 #31
" I reject the notion that anything that can be done" BainsBane Jan 2013 #34
Can I get your support for a national 5mph speed limit? krispos42 Jan 2013 #51
this is exactly how you convince more Americans to support gun control BainsBane Jan 2013 #53
So you're not willing to do anything krispos42 Jan 2013 #54
are you willing to subject guns to the same restrictions cars have? BainsBane Jan 2013 #55
Regardless of intended purpose krispos42 Jan 2013 #57
how on earth BainsBane Jan 2013 #60
You're dodging the question. krispos42 Jan 2013 #62
and of course there are speed limits already BainsBane Jan 2013 #56
there are thousands of gun laws on the books krispos42 Jan 2013 #58
109,000 words? BainsBane Jan 2013 #61
At last count. krispos42 Jan 2013 #63
"ANYTHING but GUNs!!111" Robb Jan 2013 #11
Guns are a tool, not a cause. krispos42 Jan 2013 #16
And I think you're pretending we can't walk and chew gum at the same time to protect your guns. Robb Jan 2013 #17
Not my guns krispos42 Jan 2013 #19
But you admit to the rest? Do you REALLY think we can't do two things at once? Robb Jan 2013 #20
I must have missed the part about what two things you want to do krispos42 Jan 2013 #23
specious argument BainsBane Jan 2013 #49
Yeah, the very precise measure that Obama and Warren and Feinstein and Schumer support... krispos42 Jan 2013 #52
How do you know that to be the case? BainsBane Jan 2013 #59
rec!! handmade34 Jan 2013 #3
kick samsingh Jan 2013 #4
Good. People who priortize gun rights are twice as likely to call public officals SpartanDem Jan 2013 #7
that isn't good at all, it's just evidence of the nra making people paranoid and being slimy farminator3000 Jan 2013 #36
I'd like to see a ban on concealed carry and open carry permits. nt Comrade_McKenzie Jan 2013 #25
Why? Those have very little if anything to do with gun violence madville Jan 2013 #29
is that true? no explanation? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #48
I think we need to start with what's doable BainsBane Jan 2013 #50
"My meagerly informed understanding is that higher numbers of concealed carry permits do correlate Glassunion Jan 2013 #64
I suggest you consult a dictionary of the English language BainsBane Jan 2013 #65
I asked a simple question: "where did you find that information?". Nothing more. Glassunion Jan 2013 #66
You asked an absurd question BainsBane Jan 2013 #67
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