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In reply to the discussion: President Obama Enlists Public to Urge Congress to Act Against Gun Violence [View all]krispos42
(49,445 posts)In other words, any gun you don't like.
Men commit most murders. And most murders occur in poor, urban areas, if memory serves. And "most" is not "all". I thought that was obvious, but again...
I didn't say the poor were responsible for most mass murders, though. Sorry.
The poor seem to be affording plenty of murder weapons, and since mass murder is defined as 5 more victims, they by default have mass-murder machines as well. FAIL.
That's what it's all about, isn't it? You despise and fear people that have any interest at all in military hardware or history, and you want to outlaw any action that you think will in any way encourage that kind of interest. Thought police.
And here's a clue: PROPOSED GUN RESTRICTIONS, especially irrational, reflexive, knee-jerk ones, are fantastic business for the gun industry. But you're the one waving the bloody bodies of the Sandy Hook victims, not me.
Gun sales when up under Obama because everybody figured there was a good change he would outlaw certain types of guns. And you know what? Looks like they were right. But people have spend the last 4 years or so buying guns that they figured they wouldn't be able to get in the future. And you know what? It looks like they were right on that one, too.
YOUR side's irrational, knee-jerk reaction to Sandy Hook is SELLING MORE OF THE SAME GUNS YOU WANT TO BAN.
It happened during the 1993 ban, too. People bought far more semiautomatic rifles DURING the ban than before the ban. YOUR SIDE'S work in 1993 actually caused MORE people to buy semiautomatic rifles, and shifted the industry to adapting those rifles to a wide variety of uses above and beyond the "military fetish" you claim they have.
And the corporate interest stuff is ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT.
Why? Because gun companies make the same amount of gun every year, regardless of the laws. Why? Because 15 million guns a year are sold in the country. That is the demand for them. And even if, tomorrow, an assault weapons ban was implemented, there would STILL be 15 million guns sold in 2013. And gun makers would make about the same amount of money.
Your positions are complete and utter horseshit. You seem to think that if the AWB prevents 1 millions guns from being sold, that the number of guns sold will drop by a million.
IT WON'T. A million DIFFERENT guns will be sold instead.
And I'm waiting for you to admit that the corporate media is getting all of this gun control stuff right. And has been since, say 1989, when the movement first started. Because we know that the oligarchy just LOVES the idea of heavily-armed peasants, right? Right?
If I was the gun industry, I'd be pouring money into YOUR side.
And you've made it clear sever times today that you support torture and extraordinary rendition and domestic spying and drone assassination, as long as it has the blessings of the Democratic Party and Democrats. If that's not the very definition of "authoritarian", I'll wait for a better one to come along.