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mwooldri

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20. you are right, it wouldn't be a vote on party lines.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 09:03 AM
Jan 2013

However the political parties usually back a specific line on Europe and will be involved in a yes/no vote. Given the political stances of the parties, this is how I expect the MPs to vote and encourage the public to vote. Labour are mostly pro EU, the Libdems, SNP and Plaid Cymru are very pro EU. The Conservatives are very mixed on EU membership. I believe a lot of this posturing by Cameron is because the Euroskeptic wing of the Tories are emboldened to push for this. Think of it being like Tea Party Republicans, except more reasonable on matters not on Europe. Given the fiscal mess that is the Eurozone the anti-EU people are spreading a bit of FUD around. Of course in a referendum campaign non-politicians will be very much involved, especially celebrities. Also businesses will most likely go for a yes vote and put money into the 'yes' campaign - I think the City (London banks and financial businesses) are very pro EU. I don't know how a 'no' vote would be funded - I guess a few very wealthy people plus UKIP (UK independence party IMO like the tea party proper but in their own actual party) would be leading the way. I think BNP would be anti-EU but they will be not very vocal about it given their extreme nature on racial issues. When an actual referendum comes I believe a lot of people who are saying in opinion polls that the UK ought to be out of the EU will change their position. Especially when the bulk of trade outside the UK is to EU countries, and there being no guarantee that a non-EU UK would be accepted into a free trade agreement... that alone should get most of the yes votes on board.

Well, bless his heart . . . enlightenment Jan 2013 #1
This. n/t TygrBright Jan 2013 #2
The Eurosceptic response to this would be..... T_i_B Jan 2013 #13
Yes, the EU has more influence. enlightenment Jan 2013 #17
The EU is in need of reform. T_i_B Jan 2013 #19
American Exceptionalism at work! PerceptionManagement Jan 2013 #18
Eff off, America. mwooldri Jan 2013 #3
This idiot does not speak for many of us here. amandabeech Jan 2013 #4
You are assuming dipsydoodle Jan 2013 #7
you are right, it wouldn't be a vote on party lines. mwooldri Jan 2013 #20
no guarantee that a non-EU UK would be accepted into a free trade agreement ? dipsydoodle Jan 2013 #21
You're right. Conservatives are the group that most wants to leave the EU (68%-24%). pampango Jan 2013 #8
There's a not insignificant cadre of people who don't like the EU in UK. MADem Jan 2013 #5
the crux... andypandy Jan 2013 #10
And it is good for America...And the world economy as a whole. SkyDaddy7 Jan 2013 #11
I think your conclusion is probably accurate, but there are a lot of voices in UK lately who are MADem Jan 2013 #16
I believe the EU's haphazard response to the Great Recession soured a lot of opinions. Selatius Jan 2013 #6
It also had a lot to do with... SkyDaddy7 Jan 2013 #12
i doubt it. andypandy Jan 2013 #14
No confusion here... SkyDaddy7 Jan 2013 #15
Yet another reason for the UK to be encouraged to leave the EU... Ghost Dog Jan 2013 #9
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