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AtheistCrusader

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11. The two individuals that opposed the TS shooter were not acting in their capacity as law enforcement
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 06:39 PM
Dec 2012

officers. There have been many instances of civilians opposing active shooters, both off duty cops and just regular ordinary joe's. One guy stood up to Maldonado, the Tacoma Mall shooter. He lost. He was crippled. But he delayed the shooter so long, no one else got hurt. Everyone had time to get away. Mark Allen Wilson died stopping the Tyler Tx. Courthouse shooter from killing his own son. In doing so, no one else got shot after that point.

Armed opposition to an active shooter is critical. Cop or otherwise.

Find me an example of a private citizen intervening in a mass shooting that made it worse. One will convince me.

Most Back Ban on High-Capacity Clips [View all] Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2012 OP
I have a 40 cal Springfield XDM with two 16 round magazines doc03 Dec 2012 #1
Question BainsBane Dec 2012 #7
Let's say you had to pin down some shithead, like the Trolley Square shooting. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #8
You're not a cop BainsBane Dec 2012 #9
The two individuals that opposed the TS shooter were not acting in their capacity as law enforcement AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #11
So you agree with Louie Gohmert that teachers should be armed with machine guns? BainsBane Dec 2012 #12
I am not in favor of arming teachers. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #13
that is not evidence BainsBane Dec 2012 #16
That actually IS evidence. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #17
the problemw with having just 1 police Dokkie Dec 2012 #35
Actually, that's not true. pintobean Dec 2012 #18
August 2012 Ineeda Dec 2012 #43
Historically, joe citizen has FAR higher accuracy or hit ratio than police officers. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #44
"NYPD has a training issue." Yes, and a political ignorance issue. Bloomberg has mandated AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #52
I agree 100% reading that makes me uncomfortable about the doc03 Dec 2012 #15
The Clakamas Mall shooting was stopped by a citizen lbrtbell Dec 2012 #26
Where's the validation that only the police are sufficiently trained? For example, there are plenty 24601 Dec 2012 #27
well it certainly puts to rest the meme BainsBane Dec 2012 #28
No one here has advocated breaking any laws. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #37
I fully support citizen action to prevent crime in some cases UndahCovah Dec 2012 #30
Until you can guarantee safety for me and my family, I will thank you to STFU about what I pop topcan Dec 2012 #34
Jesus Christ. ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2012 #23
Well, it's not up to you. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #25
Its good to be prepared for ANYTHING UndahCovah Dec 2012 #31
Ok. ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2012 #36
I like to shoot now and then, it's a grown-up toy. I suppose I could use it if someone doc03 Dec 2012 #14
My state doesn't have that at all. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #19
The training on the laws amounted to here's the laws if you would doc03 Dec 2012 #21
In Texas you can almost light somebody up for TPing your house UndahCovah Dec 2012 #32
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This message was self-deleted by its author Blandocyte Dec 2012 #42
Can't & Won't be done now... SkyDaddy7 Dec 2012 #2
Now ... only if Adam Lanza cosmicone Dec 2012 #6
I know you were being funny but... SkyDaddy7 Dec 2012 #39
I agree, there seems to be a group of people that want to blame Obama for everything loyalkydem Dec 2012 #3
Yep, if they do pass such a law RoccoR5955 Dec 2012 #4
Good idea. Slow 'em down. Leave that for war zones. Then eliminate the wars, too... freshwest Dec 2012 #5
NOW fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #10
Boy, this thread brought out the loons. onehandle Dec 2012 #20
Then people would just load their magazines by hand. DesMoinesDem Dec 2012 #22
None of my clips hold over 10 rounds, so ban away. PavePusher Dec 2012 #24
My magazine will eat two of your clips Brother Buzz Dec 2012 #33
Stop trying to spoil the joke. sigh. n/t PavePusher Dec 2012 #45
LOL I see what you did there. Dr_Scholl Dec 2012 #46
TGFGN's ThoughtCriminal Dec 2012 #29
Depends. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #38
Thanks. I typed my reply, below, before I read to the end of the thread. I'll check out the link... truth2power Dec 2012 #48
Could you please explain the difference? Thanks. I'm trying to educate myself, here... truth2power Dec 2012 #47
Ten round ammunition clip machI Dec 2012 #40
Since the ban will not be retroactive hack89 Dec 2012 #49
Good. You can sleep well tonight. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2012 #50
You are missing the point hack89 Dec 2012 #51
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