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freshwest

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4. This phrase in the article '...has effectively admitted...'
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 10:23 PM
Dec 2012

Is this just a long way of saying he confessed to doing something illegal?

It would seem he expects to do time, not to be freed as a whistleblower.

Or is does it mean they simply caught him at it?

That would mean they have to prove -- unsure of the term -- how bad his actions were.

The defense is within their rights to bring up anything they want to help him. I wish Wikileaks had contributed more than $15K to his defensewhen they were taking in $50+M.

Perhaps naively, I still see this as a young man who was used, but the chances he'll just be released seem slim. Hopefully the amount of time he's waited to go to trial will be reduced from his sentence. I'm obviously not an attorney, but imagine it falls under time served, even without a conviction.

I'm not a vet and have seen some comments here who have very strong opinions about Manning breaking his oath, the same one they took. Do you think what he did was really that bad, that he should be in prison for life?

Johnny Jihad didn't get life. AFAIK, people died from what he did. As much as I didn't want anyone over there, I felt he got special treatment because of his family.

One of you can fill me in on it if you have time. These threads are always instructive.

I am somewhat confused by this. grantcart Dec 2012 #1
this is pre-trial hearing stuff, which lays groundwork for the trial struggle4progress Dec 2012 #2
Yes, you seem to be missing a lot of something. JackRiddler Dec 2012 #3
That's not what Manning's lawyer describes as a 'typical day' for his client--- msanthrope Dec 2012 #7
Is there any difference between that and solitary, in the legal sense? Solitary is punishment. freshwest Dec 2012 #9
I want to direct you to my post number 15... msanthrope Dec 2012 #16
Your selective and abusive use of facts is noted. JackRiddler Dec 2012 #13
Nonsense...Manning's lawyer is far more believable on this issue than msanthrope Dec 2012 #15
Thanks for referring me to this reply. Was he given psychological counseling on the suicide issue? freshwest Dec 2012 #17
No I got that. grantcart Dec 2012 #22
This phrase in the article '...has effectively admitted...' freshwest Dec 2012 #4
I believe that is a reference to the fact that the defense has requested (and has been granted) struggle4progress Dec 2012 #5
Wow. Thanks, s4p. I wonder if military folks would chime in on how *bad* his actions were. freshwest Dec 2012 #6
Many have argued that leaking US's war crimes is actually required snot Dec 2012 #8
That argument might carry a lot more weight if he were being tried in an international court hughee99 Dec 2012 #18
Constitution>treaties>Federal law>state law Ash_F Dec 2012 #21
Over In The Badlands USMCMustang Dec 2012 #10
I hope the courts throw out the case because of how they treated him. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #11
Don't hold your breath. n/t Angleae Dec 2012 #12
It's not in the courts. JackRiddler Dec 2012 #14
This Manning Trial is PURE Military Kangaroo Court at it's heart, the details are of no Consequence sally5050 Dec 2012 #19
He's been punished enough for his rule breaking. Give him a bad discharge and VA healthcare. Sunlei Dec 2012 #20
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