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struggle4progress

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10. The credit card companies' policies are primarily designed to protect
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 06:38 PM
Nov 2012

the companies themselves, from simple damage to their reputations and from civil or criminal liabilities

It serves Assange's narrative purposes, to claim that Wikileaks is the victim of shadowy governmental interventions, but in fact it also seems possible that the credit card companies' attorneys advised the companies to back away, on the grounds that Wikileaks might be engaged in actionable behavior that might leave the card companies vulnerable in court

As possible examples, one notes:

(1) Assange's gleeful encouraging of rumors that Wikileaks was about to drop a bombshell revelation about the bankm, which had the effect of see-sawing the bank's stock prices -- which might suggest market manipulation

(2) The Wikileaks effort to auction off a sneak-peek at an ambassador's emails, combined with an attempt to pre-notify everyone connected with the emails in any way, that they might be affected -- stinking a bit of extortion

(3) Assange's close associate peddling some stolen embassy cables to the Belorussian dictatorship -- a little game that can be read as a private espionage racket

The complete lack of transparency of Wikileaks itself, as an organization which allegedly promotes transparency, means that such questions cannot be resolved easily. The credit card companies probably don't want to be mixed up in anything like that, which might explain some of the statements we heard:

... "Visa Europe has taken action to suspend Visa payment acceptance on WikiLeaks' Web site pending further investigation into the nature of its business and whether it contravenes Visa operating rules" ... Last week, PayPal also permanently restricted the account used by WikiLeaks "due to a violation of the PayPal Acceptable Use Policy, which states that our payment service cannot be used for any activities that encourage, promote, facilitate or instruct others to engage in illegal activity" ...

MasterCard, Visa Halt WikiLeaks Payments
December 7, 2010 12:15pm EST
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2373967,00.asp



Credit card blockade of WikiLeaks donations likely to be legal, EU says struggle4progress Nov 2012 #1
Credit ban 'wiped out WikiLeaks' struggle4progress Nov 2012 #2
It would be a hundred times bigger if he hadn't published national security documents. randome Nov 2012 #3
The bail Jumper wants a probe? nt msanthrope Nov 2012 #4
Credit card block on WikiLeaks "unlikely" to have violated EU rules struggle4progress Nov 2012 #5
$50 million? $50 million? Who do you think you are, Kelsey Grammar? Chelsea Clinton? freshwest Nov 2012 #6
JA says $150K was coming in daily before the credit card companies pulled the plug struggle4progress Nov 2012 #7
I would think so, too. Is this really all about the money, like a marketing scheme? freshwest Nov 2012 #9
No--Manning chose to have a civilian attorney, who is paid for by a legal fees trust created to msanthrope Nov 2012 #11
Thanks! I didn't know about this group, close to a million. From the page: freshwest Nov 2012 #12
A million for advocacy...about 50k for actual legal fees. msanthrope Nov 2012 #16
Yes, I have learned a lot from these threads. I wish the Assange love would move over to Manning. freshwest Nov 2012 #17
He's still facing the death penalty. msanthrope Nov 2012 #18
Yes. It makes me wonder how much of internet culture and media that he grew up with, freshwest Nov 2012 #19
Nicely put. randome Nov 2012 #20
His trial will allow media--print media has been to all of the hearings, but you have a msanthrope Nov 2012 #21
In the age of video, people may not be paying attention to print, at least the ones we met online. freshwest Nov 2012 #22
Does this mean that credit card companies can second-guess JDPriestly Nov 2012 #8
The credit card companies' policies are primarily designed to protect struggle4progress Nov 2012 #10
Big stuff. I learn many angles I'd never know from these threads. freshwest Nov 2012 #13
Yes, that some people defend credit card companies. Hissyspit Nov 2012 #14
Six links from me so far in this thread, none from you struggle4progress Nov 2012 #15
Yeah. Hooray for the banksters! hear, hear! Zorra Nov 2012 #23
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