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JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
61. Ridiculous. Please see my posts.
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:31 AM
Oct 2012

Terrorism is poorly defined. And it probably can't be differentiated from other crime or mob violence in many situations.

Terrorism is, in my view, defined not by the nature of the act itself, but by the intent of the person who is committing the act.

Terrorism, in my view, is committing or threatening to commit violence in order to frighten or intimidate someone into adopting some political opinion or taking some political action.

Terrorism is to be differentiated from other violent acts or threats of violent acts by the intent, by the purpose, by the motivation of the person committing or threatening the violence.

That is why acts of terror cannot always be differentiated from other acts of violence.

In Benghazi, the video shows a crowd of people, a truck, people who appear to be climbing over the wall. What is their purpose? Was it to frighten the American people? Was it to frighten people in Benghazi? Was it to avenge some act like the controversial video? You cannot tell.

That someone sends a message AFTER THE ACT HAS BEEN COMPLETED is terrorism because the message is meant to cause fear of violence to frighten or intimidate someone into adopting some political opinion or taking political action.

But, without an investigation and evidence, we cannot know for sure that the people who sent the message ACTUALLY HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE attack on the consulate in Benghazi. Therefore the fact that a message was sent is a bit of evidence, but not proof that the attack itself was terrorist. You need a lot more evidence to determine whether it was or not.

If there is an earthquake, some strange religious group can claim that they caused the earthquake. But that does not mean they did.

Settle down. Go back and study grade school science. You have to have more evidence than someone's Facebook or e-mail claim to prove something.

President Obama and Secretary of State Clinton handled this situation very well. They did not keep any facts hidden. There are always a lot of false claims made after events occurred.

Keep calm. Think clearly. Please. It's good for your health.

I don't think the American people really give a crap 2pooped2pop Oct 2012 #1
You don't think Americans give a crap about four murdered Americans? It would be sad if 24601 Oct 2012 #78
not in the big picture of things. 2pooped2pop Oct 2012 #82
someone claimed credit? Some Islamist group? Needle in a haystack anyone? leftofcool Oct 2012 #2
And when the WH sorted through all the possibilities, they told us what they thought. randome Oct 2012 #3
CNN is pushing this hard minkyboodle Oct 2012 #4
Funny how differently CNN treated the real 9/11, which really was negligent homicide. leveymg Oct 2012 #5
"CIA Documents Support Rice's Account"... rainlillie Oct 2012 #6
Too Bad the President didn't call it an act of terror the morning after it happened & golly gee- jillan Oct 2012 #7
Stupid assed sensational news story. Amimnoch Oct 2012 #8
This mac56 Oct 2012 #16
You are absolutely correct sir! LTR Oct 2012 #55
+1 mzteaze Oct 2012 #80
Of course they knew the claims. What don't people get about keeping things close to the vest... pointsoflight Oct 2012 #9
+1 nt Live and Learn Oct 2012 #34
Well said! Overseas Oct 2012 #41
Here's the e-mail sharkman25 Oct 2012 #10
Your concern is noted. mac56 Oct 2012 #17
Nonissue. They knew and on 9/12 they told us, (see video, Rose Garden speech, 04:18-22) leveymg Oct 2012 #25
Am I the only person who was paying attention at the time? JDPriestly Oct 2012 #56
Well... sharkman25 Oct 2012 #59
I want to be sure you read this. JDPriestly Oct 2012 #69
The Media Trusts Terrorist Groups Billsmile Oct 2012 #11
Do you have a trove of evidence showing claims of responsibility by terrorists are usualy false? eom sharkman25 Oct 2012 #12
Nothing But A Trove Will Do? Billsmile Oct 2012 #15
In this case however... sharkman25 Oct 2012 #35
Why are you still here? BlueInPhilly Oct 2012 #46
Just quit with your ridiculous assertions. Billsmile and I are talking about this... sharkman25 Oct 2012 #47
Here's Something To Consider Billsmile Oct 2012 #77
Terrorists, or people claiming to be terrorists, take credit for everything bad that happens. JDPriestly Oct 2012 #57
So, the President and SOS should have run to microphones and spewed this? sinkingfeeling Oct 2012 #13
I agree. but joeglow3 Oct 2012 #21
Nonsense. 'Blatant failure' of what? sinkingfeeling Oct 2012 #40
Pushing a story they had ZERO reason to push joeglow3 Oct 2012 #51
Again, nonsense. Nobody in the Administration 'pushed' a story about the film. sinkingfeeling Oct 2012 #67
Really? joeglow3 Oct 2012 #71
Where in this transcript does the President say that the attack in Libya was the sinkingfeeling Oct 2012 #72
Ridiculous. Please see my posts. JDPriestly Oct 2012 #61
I call BS on this joeglow3 Oct 2012 #70
and this oh-so-vigilant CNN had nothing to say when Dubya failed to read the 9-11 PDB Adenoid_Hynkel Oct 2012 #14
Why the focus on CNN ? dipsydoodle Oct 2012 #22
Because this is CNN's lame attempt to sway the race. MjolnirTime Oct 2012 #50
If the entire world's media are publishing it dipsydoodle Oct 2012 #52
The weapons listed bear a lot to do with violence in what is still a war zone. JDPriestly Oct 2012 #63
What the hell people! Even local murder investigations take time to be investigated.. rainlillie Oct 2012 #18
Fox's Van Susteren Misrepresents State Dept. Emails To Rehash Tired Libya Talking Points ProSense Oct 2012 #19
I don't know why anyone didn't deduce that the WH had received something like that anyway, hence... patrice Oct 2012 #20
This story is getting weird. AngryAmish Oct 2012 #23
I don't see anything weird about it. 2pooped2pop Oct 2012 #26
+1 Liberalynn Oct 2012 #31
If my lawn mower got stolen reflection Oct 2012 #24
"Better to be right than be first" - unless you're CNN. leveymg Oct 2012 #28
They have fallen far indeed, my friend. n/t reflection Oct 2012 #30
What was CNN wrong about in their reporting? n/t sharkman25 Oct 2012 #36
It's a non-story. No new info, just calculated spin. Misleading. Propaganda. leveymg Oct 2012 #42
That's non responsive to the question and does not defend your intital statement. sharkman25 Oct 2012 #43
You've never heard of factual but misleading reporting before? leveymg Oct 2012 #48
Okay, I get your perspective now, even with the unnecessary ad-hominem. eom sharkman25 Oct 2012 #53
CNN still apologizing to Romney Actionman Oct 2012 #27
This is what the righties on Twitter (& I assume elsewhere are spinning this) justiceischeap Oct 2012 #29
+100 nenagh Oct 2012 #32
This will blowback on those who are trying to twist the facts and politicize the attack. leveymg Oct 2012 #33
Doesn't matter Actionman Oct 2012 #39
Yes. And the president was probably trying to get Americans out of Libya safely. JDPriestly Oct 2012 #64
And the reason we have so little media around the world justiceischeap Oct 2012 #68
Nothing new fugop Oct 2012 #37
This is all manufactured outrage Catherine Vincent Oct 2012 #38
Manufactured outrage. JDPriestly Oct 2012 #65
How many times has a terrorist group..... vduhr Oct 2012 #44
This comment from the site sums it up KansDem Oct 2012 #45
Half of the extremist groups in the world take credit for an attack when it happens. MjolnirTime Oct 2012 #49
Extremists make claims all the time for things they didn't do as well as for things they did. yellowcanine Oct 2012 #54
I completely agree with you lexx21 Oct 2012 #81
Yes...and? n/t janx Oct 2012 #58
But, aren't ALL terrorist attacks - ALL attacks planned? flying_wahini Oct 2012 #60
Terrorism is not well defined. JDPriestly Oct 2012 #66
I read it and it looks like no big deal Enrique Oct 2012 #62
No one cares. NightOwwl Oct 2012 #73
Just the repubs trying to make the story a political one... GetTheRightVote Oct 2012 #74
Speaking of scapegoats ... GeorgeGist Oct 2012 #75
They were supposed to take the claim as gospel? hrmjustin Oct 2012 #76
I think the administration should address the issue of the video clip head on marshall Oct 2012 #79
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