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35. It's also the only country...

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 11:15 PM

Sep 2012

in the region to launch a successful terrorist attack against a US embassy in their country, which, as you know, is an attack against the US, and on US soil.

You can turn the Muslim Brotherhood into a boogeyman if you want to, but them being elected in other countries is only a sign of working democracy in those countries - those countries in which regime change did not involve civil war sponsored by NATO, but rather a peaceful transition.

I wouldn't consider that as going "quite well" unless you also think Vietnam, Afghanistan, Somalia, and Iraq went quite well.

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Deadly Attack in Libya Was Major Blow to C.I.A. Efforts [View all] alp227 Sep 2012 OP

Wow... dkf Sep 2012 #1

They were there also to coordinate Jihadi groups going to fight in Syria. leveymg Sep 2012 #2

Unsubstantiated. joshcryer Sep 2012 #3

Completely obvious. leveymg Sep 2012 #4

Doesn't fit the DU meme that these are all pure grassroots, Arab Spring "revolutionaries" nt riderinthestorm Sep 2012 #5

Blackwater's also mixed up in this Libyan fighters to Syria regime change operation: leveymg Sep 2012 #6

It certainly fits the xenophobic, paternalistic meme that they needed coercion... joshcryer Sep 2012 #14

What it fits, is a pattern established by a history of interventions in the region. ronnie624 Sep 2012 #15

Are you deliberately obtuse? There are many, many substantiated accounts of western involvement riderinthestorm Sep 2012 #26

Yes, Gaddafi was actually loved by most Libyans. UnrepentantLiberal Sep 2012 #24

Most DUers realized that the Libyan 'revolution' was in no way similar to the sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #29

Yeah, that's the thing about covert operations. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2012 #7

Or maybe the truth is even worse. harmonicon Sep 2012 #10

Could you explain the logic behind what could be gained by that? joshcryer Sep 2012 #13

No. They don't think that far ahead. harmonicon Sep 2012 #17

So you don't actually have a logical reason behind such an approach, then? joshcryer Sep 2012 #21

It's an illogical approach, but one that the US has used many times over. harmonicon Sep 2012 #22

I know you can't accept it but Libya was an internal uprising. joshcryer Sep 2012 #23

An internal uprising that wouldn't have succeeded without support from the US. harmonicon Sep 2012 #25

Debatable. joshcryer Sep 2012 #31

Yes, it's debatable, but a moot point now. harmonicon Sep 2012 #33

It's gone quite well. joshcryer Sep 2012 #34

It's also the only country... harmonicon Sep 2012 #35

That's false. There have been many attacks before. joshcryer Sep 2012 #37

Thanks for the clarification. harmonicon Sep 2012 #38

"the civil war there is not over yet" joshcryer Sep 2012 #39

I wish you wouldn't use such a broad brush. harmonicon Sep 2012 #40

Thousands of Libyan people are "some Libyan people"? joshcryer Sep 2012 #41

Let me give you a comparison: harmonicon Sep 2012 #42

Are you contending that the Libyan elections... joshcryer Sep 2012 #43

You're reading too much into the point I'm trying to make. harmonicon Sep 2012 #44

Libyan fighters have admitted to going to Syria. There's no connection with the CIA. joshcryer Sep 2012 #12

BS - What do you think the Administration means by "technical assistance" to the Syrian opposition? leveymg Sep 2012 #28

"helping allies decide" "could provide support" joshcryer Sep 2012 #32

Blowback is the one thing the CIA does really, really well. nt bemildred Sep 2012 #8

"The attack has raised questions ronnie624 Sep 2012 #9

The computer tech, Sean Smith, died destroying files. Ash_F Sep 2012 #11

No truer punchline ever existed: ronnie624 Sep 2012 #16

He probably had extensive information on all US covert ops in Libya, amandabeech Sep 2012 #18

Does the Administration's hesitancy to fill us in make sense then? dkf Sep 2012 #20

A think that there is a little of both. amandabeech Sep 2012 #30

Another hero. dkf Sep 2012 #19

Why were that many CIA and contractors in Benghazi? They weren't just counting noses. leveymg Sep 2012 #27

I think we can finally start putting this as some random occurence to bed. wutang77 Sep 2012 #36

So does anyone still think this whole charade was *really* just about some bad movie? Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #45