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In reply to the discussion: Condom used as evidence in Assange sex case 'does not contain his DNA' [View all]msanthrope
(37,549 posts)136. That statement by wikileaks regarding mitochondrial DNA is incorrect.
Mitochondrial DNA is not just present in hair and fingernails. Whoever wrote that never took an actual science class.
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Condom used as evidence in Assange sex case 'does not contain his DNA' [View all]
dipsydoodle
Sep 2012
OP
How can they rule out his DNA on a condom and "think" it's on another if they dont have his
rhett o rick
Sep 2012
#174
No--it sounds like simple logic--you can't conclusively match anyone before you
msanthrope
Sep 2012
#320
I bet they are very "anxious" to get him in prison but you are probably right about
rhett o rick
Sep 2012
#228
The Daily Mail. Can't write a proper fucking headline if its life depended on it.
joshcryer
Sep 2012
#252
Oh, please. He's a certifiable narcissist and he attracts hero-worshippers like flies.
pnwmom
Sep 2012
#301
Oh, I don't know. They could always use the Romney tactic: "He raped me retroactively."
1monster
Sep 2012
#69
But was the other condom also broken? The quote from the article does not state that.
JDPriestly
Sep 2012
#22
Got to call you on that one (as you and other have been called on repeatedly): Assange was permitted
1monster
Sep 2012
#71
Well, 'divided' sort of implies there is no world-wide conspiracy to 'get' him then.
randome
Sep 2012
#213
Not true--his own lawyer testified to the fact that Mr. Assange left the country the
msanthrope
Sep 2012
#83
Well, pretty much so. The only DNA evidence found was a tiny spot of mitochondrial DNA
1monster
Sep 2012
#99
Could there be unnamed evidence on it that links it to Assange...say fingerprints?
HereSince1628
Sep 2012
#15
Yes but the link is about a defense report, might they only point to evidence that helps their case
HereSince1628
Sep 2012
#232
Try again. No chromosomal DNA at all. Only a speck of mitochrdrial DNA which comes only
1monster
Sep 2012
#103
I'm sorry--but that's from wikileaks, which is hardly neutral. Do you have any actual court
msanthrope
Sep 2012
#125
This is, of course, a comment from Assange's lawyers, and we should not expect
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#13
No: regardless of any of your theorizing, it's merely a claim from Assange's lawyers, and
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#32
Not only that, but of course no conclusive matching can happen until Assange gives a DNA
msanthrope
Sep 2012
#59
" it is entirely inappropriate to attempt to try such a case in on a public bulletin board"
Bluenorthwest
Sep 2012
#21
I have never taken any stand on Assange's guilt or innocence with regard to the Swedish accusations
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#31
Yes you have. You've been trying to convince everyone of his guilt on every thread.
Alexander
Sep 2012
#70
Provide a link showing I said he was guilty of the Swedish accusations. Or apologize.
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#107
You couldn't find the requested link, could you? That's cuz it doesn't exist.
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#312
You are assuming that prosecutors don't break rules and turn wreckless for their own success...
GetRidOfThem
Sep 2012
#36
I'm not assuming anything about the prosecutors: if they have a weak case and overreach,
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#43
I've always taken the PoV that the Swedish allegations should be handled by the Swedish system
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#109
"Lawyers for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange have revealed ... " etc etc. "The report, which has
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#113
Not on the links I provided... The links I provided included the Swedish lab reports.
1monster
Sep 2012
#119
Not buying it -- cuz Wikileaks has a history of forgery. He can go clear it up in Sweden
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#135
But they can't conclusively match or not match his DNA until they have a sample,
msanthrope
Sep 2012
#64
Please provide a link that backs up your statement that he fled the day before he
1monster
Sep 2012
#79
Uh huh. Which is why I asked for specific pages on his 28 page link. S/He gave me three pages and
1monster
Sep 2012
#123
pbfft! you're just jealous that i actually give links that support my arguments
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#170
There's not a link from you anywhere in the thread yet. I've provided various links
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#294
There's not a link from you anywhere in the thread yet. I've provided various links
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#306
I read the three pages you said supported your conclusions. They don't support your
1monster
Sep 2012
#133
Upthread, you make the claim that mitochondria only exist in our hair and fingernails.
msanthrope
Sep 2012
#139
Nice gossip link from the Daily Mail, citing snark from unnamed sources.
Comrade Grumpy
Sep 2012
#96
I'm sure hundreds of women would love to have babies with him. So the allegation is that he wanted t
robinlynne
Sep 2012
#187
I know. how often do really intellegent, really rich men run around trying to get women pregnant?
robinlynne
Sep 2012
#190
Oh, right! That's why he skipped Sweden while the authorities were talking to his lawyer to arrange
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#305
Is there any viable PROOF that the US is behind it, or is this just paranoid theory?
George II
Sep 2012
#327
That's an investigation into US-Australian intelligence exchanges, not rape in Sweden
George II
Sep 2012
#333
Wrong, it's an investigation of Assange's alleged wrongdoing against the US...
AntiFascist
Sep 2012
#337
I have read about it, but why don't you enlighten me instead of insulting me?
George II
Sep 2012
#56
Sweden is a highly subordinate client state, and close ally to the U.S. government.
ronnie624
Sep 2012
#118
Because the evidence clears it up for him, therefore not requiring his traveling to another country?
Occulus
Sep 2012
#50
He's lost twice in Swedish court and four times, over a year and a half, in UK court
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#138
It's too bad if Assange has psychotic delusions, but the rest of us are not obliged to believe them
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#307
"If Assange has psychotic delusions, then the rest of us are not obliged to believe them"
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#311
His lawyers had their chance to argue that in court -- but they decided it was too crackpot
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#141
Actually, one of Assange's own witnesses told the court that onward-extradition was not possible
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#148
He's lost twice in Swedish court and four times, over a year and a half, in UK court
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#197
Population of London: 8+ million. Number of Londoners who turned out for Assange's balcony speech:
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#250
You really spend a lot of time disliking Julian Assange. Do you know him personally?
robinlynne
Sep 2012
#251
"... There was at one stage a suggestion that Mr Assange could be extradited to the USA
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#195
or they didn't argue it because there is no case, hence no need. Did you know thaqt both women bragg
robinlynne
Sep 2012
#243
If there's no good case against him in Sweden, he'll be quickly cleared to go his merry way
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#275
... The Swedish court system is characterized by foreseeability, fairness, humanism
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#309
Bradley Manning was tortured. The good that julian did for the entire world is huge. It really
robinlynne
Sep 2012
#198
"... David Coombs, a lawyer for Pfc. Bradley Manning, ... said Manning was confined in such a way
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#207
BTW, the accusations are not "the condom broke." One of the accusations is rape
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#208
No there is not a rape accusation. there is a sexual misconduct accusation, and
robinlynne
Sep 2012
#237
... The position with offence 4 is different. This is an allegation of rape. The framework list
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#246
There was no rape period. That woman bragged in writing about the event, and subsequently had sex
robinlynne
Sep 2012
#248
I expect the Swedish justice system can sort it out better than we can
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#273
Why did she go back and sleep with him again several nights later if there was a problem?
robinlynne
Sep 2012
#249
I expect the Swedish justice system can sort it out better than we can
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#274
Actually there is not more than that. Both women put in wriitng how happy they were that they had se
robinlynne
Sep 2012
#247
espeically when you find out that the second woman subsequently went back to see him and had sex aga
robinlynne
Sep 2012
#238
So no DNA on one condom (Ms. A) But DNA on another condom (Ms. W) and both torn?
msanthrope
Sep 2012
#51
Well, I hardly expect the defense to admit to that. We will have to wait until Assange gives a DNA
msanthrope
Sep 2012
#62
I sincerely doubt he's supporting four children. But I bet Sweden has interviewed the
msanthrope
Sep 2012
#90
This article is nothing more than gossip. Let's hear from the mothers of these alledged children.
1monster
Sep 2012
#85
Sorry. I forgot the "sarcasm" tag. No. Even were it true, it's not my business nor yours.
1monster
Sep 2012
#131
Subheadline: "But its thought another condom, submitted by the second alleged victim, does"
pnwmom
Sep 2012
#130
Oh--even better--the Daily Mail is now an approved source for Assange info.
msanthrope
Sep 2012
#144
True. But if his supporters think it's a credible source, I'm willing to explore
msanthrope
Sep 2012
#157
So he was trying to forcibly impregnate those women with someone else's DNA?
4th law of robotics
Sep 2012
#175
There are far too many assumptions in your post with nothing to support them.
ronnie624
Sep 2012
#331
Thanks for the link, but I am internet-challenged and can't watch videos (no hi speed connection
Dems to Win
Sep 2012
#339
up next Assange is identified as the guy in the rain coat on the grassy knoll.
grantcart
Sep 2012
#209
It's too bad if Assange has psychotic delusions, but the rest of us are not obliged to believe them
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#221
No. If this was a CIA op from the beginning, it would be a strong rape case. Good evidence, etc
Dems to Win
Sep 2012
#230
Wasn't one of his accusers a former NGO worker with organizational ties to the CIA?
NoodleyAppendage
Sep 2012
#231
Everybody read the link posted by noodley! Both women boasted in writing after sex with Assange. On
robinlynne
Sep 2012
#242
If either woman was concocting a rape trap, they would have acted like a 'legitimate rape' victim
Dems to Win
Sep 2012
#263
This is what sabrina's been saying from the beginning! But this info was disappeared online
riderinthestorm
Sep 2012
#253
But producing a condom with his DNA in it, weakens her case severely, if not entirely.
riderinthestorm
Sep 2012
#259
I haven't seen anything that demonstrates the women themselves are pursuing charges
riderinthestorm
Sep 2012
#268