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43. you must be white if you're calling Texas the "free state"

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California gun laws: Jerry Brown signs major new restrictions on firearms owners, rejects others [View all] alp227 Jul 2016 OP

Every time you restrict gun rights jpak Jul 2016 #1

With what? lame54 Jul 2016 #35

I know, right? This thread is lacking in gun porn. We need pictures! hunter Jul 2016 #37

Obviously... sarisataka Jul 2016 #38

. Iggo Jul 2016 #2

Excellent! May it be contagious! Squinch Jul 2016 #3

Sad to see Brown is becoming a DINO scscholar Jul 2016 #4

I don't know about the first one, but the rest are bullshit vetoes, passiveporcupine Jul 2016 #7

With all of the constant workplace shootings that constantly happen so often... scscholar Jul 2016 #10

It is upside down day sarisataka Jul 2016 #11

It is the reinvention of the old "Peace Writs". happyslug Jul 2016 #17

That sounds like the old "Peace Writs". happyslug Jul 2016 #16

I understand what your concern is, but passiveporcupine Jul 2016 #21

To get a PFA, you need to file with a court. happyslug Jul 2016 #22

OK, so it may be technically impossible to get passiveporcupine Jul 2016 #24

I do PFAs on a weekly basis, yes it is. happyslug Jul 2016 #25

glad you explained this and yes, i can see how this would be used against minorities JI7 Jul 2016 #53

He would have been insane to sign it. former9thward Jul 2016 #50

So what happens to someone today who has a valid complaint? passiveporcupine Jul 2016 #56

Then run for office and do better. Chicago1980 Jul 2016 #12

Great to hear ailsagirl Jul 2016 #5

Glad someone is doing something IronLionZion Jul 2016 #6

I can almost hear... liberalmuse Jul 2016 #8

I will support Cryptoad Jul 2016 #9

Does this mean all semi-auto rifles are now also banned? ansible Jul 2016 #13

SKS semiautomatics are legal under that section happyslug Jul 2016 #18

As is the M1Garand. n/t oneshooter Jul 2016 #19

I can contest that. happyslug Jul 2016 #26

I believe that you are refering to the BM59 from Beretta oneshooter Jul 2016 #27

You got it basackwards oneshooter Jul 2016 #29

Right, but that does NOT meet the definition used in the statute for "fixed magazine" happyslug Jul 2016 #31

Makes me glad I live in the free state of Texas. n/t oneshooter Jul 2016 #32

you must be white if you're calling Texas the "free state" CreekDog Jul 2016 #43

And you must be some sort of racist if you believe that. n/t oneshooter Jul 2016 #48

But the SKS has some features banned ansible Jul 2016 #20

But those features only apply to rifles with detachable magazines happyslug Jul 2016 #23

Where can I buy one of those semiautomatic, centerfire rifles John Poet Jul 2016 #118

Actually, you can. All current NATO rifles are capable of launching STANAG 22mm rifle grenades Just reading posts Jul 2016 #131

Jer-RY! Jer-RY! Jer-RY! Night Watchman Jul 2016 #14

So they've banned "possession" of high capacity magazines. Calista241 Jul 2016 #15

Since the law can not take effect immediately, I would sell the. Travis_0004 Jul 2016 #28

California requires you to sell them through a licensed gun dealer CreekDog Jul 2016 #44

I read that the law takes effect some time next year. Just reading posts Jul 2016 #34

NY and CT have shown us that compliance with this kind of ban is between 5%-15% Lizzie Poppet Jul 2016 #36

Over the last forty years, Jerry Brown has been, ... CRH Jul 2016 #30

And to think I was annoyed by the ridiculous gun control laws passed in Colorado a couple of years Just reading posts Jul 2016 #33

Why isn't any credit sarisataka Jul 2016 #39

I agree... Heeeeers Johnny Jul 2016 #42

Does this mean ammosexuals will be leaving California? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #40

Would that be these folks? sarisataka Jul 2016 #41

No. The mentally ill.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #45

Those that belong to drug gangs will stay hack89 Jul 2016 #46

Of course, the tired old "if you outlaw guns,.." canard. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #47

His statement was a straightforward prediction... Lizzie Poppet Jul 2016 #49

LOL!!! Oh sure. Gun bans mean only crooks have guns.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #54

You're completely missing the point. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2016 #59

I know what your point is. To prevent anything from changing. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #62

Nope. But thanks for confirming my suspicion. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2016 #65

A buy back preceding a full ban is how they got rid of machine guns. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #69

Wrong, you can still purchase full auto weapons. oneshooter Jul 2016 #73

Regular guns should be just as screened. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #82

What, in your educated and informed opinion, is a "regular gun"? n/t oneshooter Jul 2016 #84

A wooden stock bolt action hunting rifle. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #88

You mean like this one? oneshooter Jul 2016 #89

I supposed that's to determine if I know about bolts. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #91

Like these? oneshooter Jul 2016 #103

Now show us your nuts! Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #111

Your use of the term "regular guns" does call into question your knowledge... Marengo Jul 2016 #126

Only to someone playing the game.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #140

Either one knows, or does not know, the subject matter being discussed. Marengo Jul 2016 #143

Wrong. It's a deflection from the issue.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #147

Uh huh. apply the same argument to the subject of women's reproductive rights Marengo Jul 2016 #156

Another deflection? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #160

Actually it is to check you oneshooter Jul 2016 #208

Number twos always play the same game. It's old..... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #215

So a synthetic stocked bolt action rifle isn't a "regular" gun? Just reading posts Jul 2016 #165

I know this game.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #169

So....no answer, then? Just reading posts Jul 2016 #172

It's not a game when someone shoots up a classroom. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #178

I don't recall asserting that it was. You said "regular" guns were wooden stocked, bolt action Just reading posts Jul 2016 #181

LOL! Are you sure? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #189

Yes, quite. Just reading posts Jul 2016 #191

There was a machine-gun buyback in the US? News to me. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2016 #80

So you are saying current gun owners are willing to break the law. Got it. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #90

A law like that? Absolutely. Millions of them, in fact. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2016 #92

What we have and what we need at two different things.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #93

How would asshole be legally defined? Marengo Jul 2016 #127

That's easy.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #141

You would deny a constitutional right based on political affiliation? Marengo Jul 2016 #146

It would make for great theater. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #149

Sure, if theater is the goal. Marengo Jul 2016 #157

What's funny is the idiots running around in the woods playing army.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #163

You actually think the NG would comply with orders to confiscate guns? Lizzie Poppet Jul 2016 #170

I believe they will fight for the country against a bunch of anti-government idiots. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #177

Depends on the scenario. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2016 #182

Most people with guns will turn them in. That's why there's total panic.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #185

I think you're enormously mistaken on that. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2016 #187

Thus fulfilling the "only outlaws will have guns" talking point. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #188

Want a gun? Get fingerprinted and photographed and pass a background check... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #99

I have no objections to that sort of set-up. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2016 #104

There was a buy back associated with the 1934 NFA? Marengo Jul 2016 #128

which way does the new law lean .. criminal or legal ? DustyJoe Jul 2016 #206

Interesting construct.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #217

It works so well for Chicago and Baltimore! Kang Colby Jul 2016 #233

Why is CA different from NY and CT? hack89 Jul 2016 #52

Face it. Gun laws work everywhere they're used..... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #55

Which gun laws? TeddyR Jul 2016 #57

A national ban will stop guns from coming in from outside. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #60

There are c. 350 million firearms already in civilian hands in the US. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2016 #66

Banning is simply no longer a workable methodology sarisataka Jul 2016 #67

Bad examples. Try machine guns.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #70

Bad example sarisataka Jul 2016 #72

LOL!!! Oh sure, let's go down to the gun store and buy one right now. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #78

Gunbroker currently lists sarisataka Jul 2016 #85

LOL! Do you KNOW what that "paperwork" is? Screening required by LAW. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #96

I do know sarisataka Jul 2016 #98

They are banned from the open market and off the streets. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #100

Still wrong sarisataka Jul 2016 #102

It's not a war zone out there ya know.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #112

I am quite familiar sarisataka Jul 2016 #113

So you agree with this... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #114

Reagan is the proverbially stopped clock sarisataka Jul 2016 #115

It's times like this when I wonder about what people choose for a hobby. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #116

For twenty years my job sarisataka Jul 2016 #117

I had a full basement in Michigan with floor to ceiling hardshell mountains.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #119

Very nice sarisataka Jul 2016 #153

"Extras" make for good photography.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #158

That's just mean... sarisataka Jul 2016 #162

"Selective compression" is your friend.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #168

So true sarisataka Jul 2016 #174

Point to point or do you have continuous run available? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #179

Point to point now sarisataka Jul 2016 #184

This is why coal country is so popular. You can have tight turns with lots of little hopper cars. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #186

There are beautiful coal layouts sarisataka Jul 2016 #190

The Reading was a good one with the camelback engines.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #192

Those must have been sarisataka Jul 2016 #193

Not talking to the fireman was an inconvenience 1939 Jul 2016 #203

If you lived in my neighborhood, you could. NFA dealer 15 minutes down the road. Marengo Jul 2016 #125

Do you have a machine gun? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #138

I've been thinking of it, already have an FFL so have some familiarity with the process. Marengo Jul 2016 #142

I take it model railroading is out as a hobby. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #148

One may have more than a single hobby. Marengo Jul 2016 #155

Try fly fishing. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #159

Too pricey for me. Just reading posts Jul 2016 #173

yep just like those outlawed drugs have been kept out n/t DustyJoe Jul 2016 #205

Very good.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #211

Like the 1994 AWB? hack89 Jul 2016 #61

The AWB was watered down and then repealed. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #63

The AWB was absolutely useless as written hack89 Jul 2016 #64

Games. It's all games.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #68

When you make up labels like "assault weapon" hack89 Jul 2016 #77

Face it. There is sheer panic in the air that the public is about to end the game. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #81

You're dreaming. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2016 #86

Don't say "never". Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #95

True enough. "Never" is a long time! (nm) Lizzie Poppet Jul 2016 #97

Rhode Island eemphatically rejected an AWB last week hack89 Jul 2016 #87

Have you ever been there? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #94

I live there nt. hack89 Jul 2016 #105

Maybe you can explain the smell. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #106

What smell would that be? nt hack89 Jul 2016 #107

The river in Providence. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #108

Don't live in Providence so I don't knownt. hack89 Jul 2016 #109

It's like a mix of rotting vegetation and stagnant sea water. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #110

It still is. The cost is tremendous and a tax of $200 per item goes to get you the stamp. oneshooter Jul 2016 #74

you can't own hand grenades anymore? WHat will we do for protection and hunting ducks? olddad56 Jul 2016 #76

You can, if you have the money and a clean enough background. n/t oneshooter Jul 2016 #79

... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #101

Liberal criminologists whose credentials FAR exceed yours and mine disagree that "gun control" works pablo_marmol Jul 2016 #199

As if there are no other factors that reduced crime but guns.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #200

Never claimed that guns were solely responsible for reducing crime. pablo_marmol Jul 2016 #207

"Unsurprising that you'd erect a dishonest strawman." Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #216

"As if there are no other factors that reduced crime but guns...." pablo_marmol Jul 2016 #218

Which part do you find hard to believe? TipTok Jul 2016 #120

The part where people really believe it and it's not just a talking point. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #122

Well that was certainly vague... TipTok Jul 2016 #123

"D"... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #137

Ahhh.. TipTok Jul 2016 #180

Truth be told, I dismiss them utterly as decades old talking points. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #183

The fact they have decades of precedent... TipTok Jul 2016 #196

Actually they are assumptions accepted as fact.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #197

Ooh.. progress... TipTok Jul 2016 #198

You keep citing NY and CT as if that is absolute proof that ANY attempt is futile.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #201

Other countries are not the US... TipTok Jul 2016 #202

You seem to labor under the impression that the government needs the NRA's permission.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #204

This is an excellent example... TipTok Jul 2016 #210

The reason gun sales have expanded is the idiots believing Obama's army from Kenya is coming. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #212

The fact you think that... TipTok Jul 2016 #220

Do you even know any right wingers? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #222

Look at my avatar... TipTok Jul 2016 #223

It's fear of a ban that's driving up sales..... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #226

And widERspread ignoring of such a law. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2016 #209

So do nothing because it will be ignored anyway. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #213

When doing nothing is better than doing something stupid and counter-productive...... pablo_marmol Jul 2016 #219

"indeed ------ do nothing." Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #221

"That's where it always ends." pablo_marmol Jul 2016 #224

The common pattern is to hear Number Twos say "It's too soon".... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #225

False dichotomy. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2016 #229

Face it. There is a cult around the idea of urban warfare and they want their toys to play hero. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #230

Irrelevant. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2016 #231

And then there's the rest of the world wondering, "WTF??" Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #232

Two questions TeddyR Jul 2016 #51

Only if the magazine is not forward of the trigger. oneshooter Jul 2016 #75

At last, California will be free of the scourge of Red 9 Broomhandles. Just reading posts Jul 2016 #171

After all, they can be made into blasters! Lizzie Poppet Jul 2016 #175

A DL-44 Heavy Blaster Pistol! Just reading posts Jul 2016 #176

Unconstitutional fear-mongering & security theater. nt appal_jack Jul 2016 #58

How is banning high capacity magazines anything but an empty gesture? jack_krass Jul 2016 #71

All the more empty when you consider the extant supply. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2016 #83

Good! It's a great start. mwrguy Jul 2016 #121

If this is a "great start", what is your desired endgame on this subject? Just reading posts Jul 2016 #133

A gun-free society mwrguy Jul 2016 #194

So much for "No one wants to take your guns". Just reading posts Jul 2016 #195

proof of insurance to buy a gun, all guns listed on home insurance policy, require insurance for mor Sunlei Jul 2016 #124

Like dog bites, that is already covered by home insurance. happyslug Jul 2016 #129

What will that accomplish? TeddyR Jul 2016 #130

just like with a car, proof of insurance can be used to verify a gun holder in public is 'legal' Sunlei Jul 2016 #145

A concealed carry license confirms TeddyR Jul 2016 #151

If I was Governer, I'd regulate that Militia with easy to scan registration stickers. Sunlei Jul 2016 #154

Chris Rock had a point...charge for the bullets and let them have the guns.. Stellar Jul 2016 #132

That would, of course be unconstitutional on the face of it. Just reading posts Jul 2016 #134

Really, I didn't know. Or are you talking about paying for bullets? Stellar Jul 2016 #135

Courts have ruled that ammunition bans are unconstitutional. Just reading posts Jul 2016 #136

Then, that's got to change. Stellar Jul 2016 #139

Unlikely, to say the least. Just reading posts Jul 2016 #144

Why? Lizzie Poppet Jul 2016 #150

I'm all for a tax paid sticker on new guns and a registration sticker, similar to a cars requirement Sunlei Jul 2016 #152

and the next day.. drray23 Jul 2016 #161

Making your AR-15 compliant with the law isn't "circumventing" the letter of the law. Just reading posts Jul 2016 #164

yes in the same way drray23 Jul 2016 #166

Following the letter of the law, in other words. Just reading posts Jul 2016 #167

That is what happens when laws are written by ManiacJoe Jul 2016 #234

Next time youceyec Jul 2016 #214

Lordy, lordy.... S_B_Jackson Jul 2016 #227

Exempted themselves from the new laws that made hawkeyeman Jul 2016 #228