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61. id give the gop attack machine one month before they bring sanders down to under 30% against trump

Sun May 22, 2016, 11:54 AM

May 2016

Hillary was undefeatable, or so it was believed, 2 years ago. Recordings have emerged of the GOP having these discussions. They decided to make stuff up about Libya and focus on the other perceived negatives, and micro focus on real or perceived issues. 2 years later, the undefeatable candidate, is being challenged everywhere.

The same will happen to Bernie - and I believe worst. Outside our bubble, the rest of the population will not accept a self described socialist. I can see the adds - 'they want to take your money to create a generation of dependents', 'sanders panders to the .....'.

it won't be hard or take long.

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Clinton's Lead Over Trump Shrinks to 3 Points: New NBC News/WSJ Poll [View all] tabasco May 2016 OP

Sanders' biggest advantage in these polls... Orrex May 2016 #1

yeah but don't let those facts get in the way of the other narrative. winstars May 2016 #3

The "facts" are the poll results. tabasco May 2016 #8

Clinton Voters liberalmike27 May 2016 #11

I would bet Andy823 May 2016 #16

Perhaps, but that does not change what are facts and what are not facts. tabasco May 2016 #18

well rtracey May 2016 #123

I agree with you 100% mark67 May 2016 #32

I believe Bernie has every right to stay in. Duval May 2016 #88

Hear, hear - especially because Ms. Inevitable might be forced to withdraw. forest444 May 2016 #140

and meaningless at this point... paleotn May 2016 #96

Who Is Being Polled? LeFleur1 May 2016 #133

Rather than stomping your feet, might you address what I wrote? Orrex May 2016 #21

Hillary is fading 406-Boz May 2016 #37

Straight from the GOP echo chamber. Orrex May 2016 #39

Read the polls 406-Boz May 2016 #58

Show me the relevant poll, please. Orrex May 2016 #70

NY Times good INFORMATIVE piece on TRASH POLLS. Hortensis May 2016 #110

The polls that matter have HRC as our nominee Cary May 2016 #95

Trump vs Clinton, who do voters hate the least? 406-Boz May 2016 #112

I think you know Cary May 2016 #125

then rtracey May 2016 #124

Not carrying water Ned_Devine May 2016 #60

Lifelong Dem here as well. Orrex May 2016 #74

hardcore Bernie supporters who don't vote for Hillary in Nov. will be War Pigs May 2016 #86

Not even the same story, but nice try Ned_Devine May 2016 #92

x1000 Merryland May 2016 #102

Interesting spin. Even Clinton fan Rachel Maddow did a long presentation months ago disproving floriduck May 2016 #107

But, this time the Dems will lose the votes just by their exclusiveness attitude. floriduck May 2016 #108

They're not facts at all. This is one of the most absurb bits of conventional wisdom that I've ever Chakab May 2016 #105

And that was after they ignored him for months. Bernie who? libdem4life May 2016 #118

Exactly. Andy823 May 2016 #19

Sanders has won more elections than Clinton. tecelote May 2016 #33

If only the "number of elections" mattered in the slightest Orrex May 2016 #38

I do imagine he will do well. tecelote May 2016 #44

Well, I suppose that Trump might win, as long as we assume... Orrex May 2016 #65

What can be said about Sanders that hasn't already been said? n/t JPnoodleman May 2016 #77

Seriously? Have you never watched an election in the US? Orrex May 2016 #78

Hillary's negatives are largely because of Hillary.. raindaddy May 2016 #82

Oh, come on. Orrex May 2016 #85

There is nobody who has been attacked by Republicans more consistently and more unfairly............ raindaddy May 2016 #89

Broadly speaking, there are two kinds of Independents Orrex May 2016 #93

Simply put....Sander's poll's better against Trump and that includes Independents.. raindaddy May 2016 #98

Yes, Independents have always made that claim. Orrex May 2016 #103

You're missing the point completely.. raindaddy May 2016 #106

Actually, no, I'm not. Though Independents love to make that claim, too. Orrex May 2016 #109

"Third way enabler" works well.. Or how about just moderate Republicans.... raindaddy May 2016 #116

National polls are not that useful in an election that is not based on the popular vote. LiberalFighter May 2016 #2

True liberalmike27 May 2016 #12

I have looked at that. LiberalFighter May 2016 #24

That belief is directly contradicted by primary results Orrex May 2016 #84

So??? At this point polls are entertainment only. wisteria May 2016 #4

With Trump portraying the fascist, Plucketeer May 2016 #5

Looks like Hillary better do some serious groveling to Sanders and his supporters shawn703 May 2016 #6

In Oregon liberalmike27 May 2016 #15

This is her only chance, but is she too arrogant? LiberalLovinLug May 2016 #91

There is no evidence that Sanders the Independent would do any better Orrex May 2016 #97

Depends on how bad Clinton wants our support shawn703 May 2016 #120

How delightfully egocentric Orrex May 2016 #121

^^^THIS^^^ SunSeeker May 2016 #128

How blithley arrogant LiberalLovinLug May 2016 #135

Once she's the nominee, then she should have your vote Orrex May 2016 #136

I agree LiberalLovinLug May 2016 #137

This message was self-deleted by its author Orrex May 2016 #138

Well, I was trying to end on an agreeable note LiberalLovinLug May 2016 #139

Then I apologize for my shitty tone and for misreading your intent. Orrex May 2016 #141

No problem eh LiberalLovinLug May 2016 #142

If you read my post you'd see that I do not say Sanders would have won LiberalLovinLug May 2016 #134

I'm worried, it's not looking good for us in Nov JoeOtterbein May 2016 #7

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Three points is nothing in a national poll, not weird JoeOtterbein May 2016 #48

ABC has Trump ahead spinbaby May 2016 #9

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It's caution heading towards paranoia. Igel May 2016 #34

"Dead heat" is plenty reason to worry JoeOtterbein May 2016 #49

Yep, Clinton has never reversed a trend. (Evaporating lead vs Trump this time) nt phazed0 May 2016 #83

This from the same MSM who repeat his name as click bait as often as possible. Ford_Prefect May 2016 #10

Actually, it's an NBC News / WSJ poll, which is rated A- by RCP tabasco May 2016 #13

My point is that they enabled him by pandering to the same audience. Ford_Prefect May 2016 #35

This is the same MSM that annointed Clinton as the Democratic nominee four years ago. tabasco May 2016 #42

It's what they are well paid to do, as I said. Ford_Prefect May 2016 #53

Sanders is still trailing Clinton by 11% George II May 2016 #14

That's nice. tabasco May 2016 #17

Fine, but at least she'll be in the general election George II May 2016 #20

The issue now is what happens next. tabasco May 2016 #51

So you're implying that we should throw out the results of all the primaries/caucuses that have.... George II May 2016 #52

Please show me where I implied anything like what you claimed. tabasco May 2016 #72

We campaign for her and do everything we can to get her elected. That includes ceasing... George II May 2016 #79

Ignoring unfavorable information, thinking it will go away, tabasco May 2016 #80

That's up to the FBI Reter May 2016 #100

The FBI has nothing to say about it, in fact, contrary to the wishes of many, they're not even.... George II May 2016 #104

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Beating Trump isn't the priority. warrprayer May 2016 #22

Hillary supporters continue to blame Bernie, media, anything but their weak candidate Hillary Arazi May 2016 #23

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Yes I would deny that. Nyan May 2016 #36

No, Hillary is winning the primaries because DEMOCRATS want her, not some bullshit national poll still_one May 2016 #31

She's only "flawed" if one believes the bullshit. Loki May 2016 #47

+1 nt riderinthestorm May 2016 #67

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It is bullshit. A lot of alleged Sanders supporters are going for trump over Hillary in these polls still_one May 2016 #30

Especially when they only poll white voters. Loki May 2016 #43

This link describes a lot of what is happening and why one needs to be skeptical still_one May 2016 #46

And also in this poll Kilgore May 2016 #40

If Trump ever turns his big mouth towards Bernie the independents will end up thinking that WhoWoodaKnew May 2016 #41

Exactly! Far too many think of Trump as a politician, he's not. He plays a different game. RKP5637 May 2016 #126

Even so-called leftish media zentrum May 2016 #45

"So-called" is right. tabasco May 2016 #54

Yup. zentrum May 2016 #57

3 points? That ain't sh*t. SmittynMo May 2016 #50

Never ever underestimate Trump Kilgore May 2016 #59

I totally agree SmittynMo May 2016 #62

Democrats are good at making mistakes. I'm afraid of what the 2016 results will be. n/t RKP5637 May 2016 #127

Or the stupidity of the American people. tabasco May 2016 #68

Bernie needs to stop wasting everyones time and let Hillary pivot to the GE and to the center ericson00 May 2016 #55

Hillary needs to stop wasting everyones time. ForgoTheConsequence May 2016 #66

"Pivoting to the center" has been the downfall of the Democratic party. tabasco May 2016 #115

I know i know it's sanders fault. RATM435 May 2016 #56

Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SamKnause May 2016 #76

id give the gop attack machine one month before they bring sanders down to under 30% against trump patsimp May 2016 #61

Sorry, I don't fall for it SmittynMo May 2016 #71

THIS post is spot on!! WhoWoodaKnew May 2016 #99

How is it news that the most unfavorably viewed Democrat in the history of the party polls weakly Attorney in Texas May 2016 #63

Thanks Bernie! Dream Girl May 2016 #64

Bernie made Hillary lie! ForgoTheConsequence May 2016 #69

All the valid poll analyst say until Bern is out of the race, these type of polls mean nuttin,, LMAO Cryptoad May 2016 #73

If Hillary is lucky, cannabis_flower May 2016 #75

There's really no way to know at this point. janx May 2016 #113

there is no risk free choice here Angel Martin May 2016 #81

Trump and his minions would attack Bernie on many LibDemAlways May 2016 #94

you just don't get this Angel Martin May 2016 #117

She's *leading* him and the President hasn't come out to play yet? LaydeeBug May 2016 #87

He came out to play when he said, tabasco May 2016 #111

No, sweets, he indicated he wanted to play when he said LaydeeBug May 2016 #131

Aaaaaand... under the bus goes Obama! tabasco May 2016 #132

I honestly don't think GE polls mean anything yet askeptic May 2016 #90

I hope she gets indicted honestly noneko May 2016 #101

Eventually, Sanders Will Be the Nominee; I Can Sense It! mckara May 2016 #114

A Progressive Election gussmith May 2016 #119

the closer to the Convention, the more that is going to widen against SOS Clinton tomm2thumbs May 2016 #122

This won't surprise anyone who understands the difference between the D candidates MrMickeysMom May 2016 #129

National polls Brother Joe Observes May 2016 #130