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In reply to the discussion: Clinton's Lead Over Trump Shrinks to 3 Points: New NBC News/WSJ Poll [View all]Igel
(35,359 posts)34. It's caution heading towards paranoia.
People don't look at polls dispassionately. They bring to them attitudes and opinions.
So, yeah. When Clinton's ahead, some look at the downside. When Trump's ahead, they look at the downside.
Back in 2008 or 2012--I forget which--there was this horrible tendency to look at increases in Obama's poll numbers and decreases in his opponent's. If you added up all the increases proudly reported on DU he'd have beat his opponent by something like 220% of the electorate versus -200% by his opponent, for a difference of more than 400% at the polls.
It was just a different kind of bias--triumphalist then, vaguely suspicious now.
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Interesting spin. Even Clinton fan Rachel Maddow did a long presentation months ago disproving
floriduck
May 2016
#107
But, this time the Dems will lose the votes just by their exclusiveness attitude.
floriduck
May 2016
#108
They're not facts at all. This is one of the most absurb bits of conventional wisdom that I've ever
Chakab
May 2016
#105
There is nobody who has been attacked by Republicans more consistently and more unfairly............
raindaddy
May 2016
#89
Simply put....Sander's poll's better against Trump and that includes Independents..
raindaddy
May 2016
#98
National polls are not that useful in an election that is not based on the popular vote.
LiberalFighter
May 2016
#2
Looks like Hillary better do some serious groveling to Sanders and his supporters
shawn703
May 2016
#6
If you read my post you'd see that I do not say Sanders would have won
LiberalLovinLug
May 2016
#134
Yep, Clinton has never reversed a trend. (Evaporating lead vs Trump this time) nt
phazed0
May 2016
#83
This from the same MSM who repeat his name as click bait as often as possible.
Ford_Prefect
May 2016
#10
This is the same MSM that annointed Clinton as the Democratic nominee four years ago.
tabasco
May 2016
#42
So you're implying that we should throw out the results of all the primaries/caucuses that have....
George II
May 2016
#52
We campaign for her and do everything we can to get her elected. That includes ceasing...
George II
May 2016
#79
The FBI has nothing to say about it, in fact, contrary to the wishes of many, they're not even....
George II
May 2016
#104
Hillary supporters continue to blame Bernie, media, anything but their weak candidate Hillary
Arazi
May 2016
#23
No, Hillary is winning the primaries because DEMOCRATS want her, not some bullshit national poll
still_one
May 2016
#31
It is bullshit. A lot of alleged Sanders supporters are going for trump over Hillary in these polls
still_one
May 2016
#30
This link describes a lot of what is happening and why one needs to be skeptical
still_one
May 2016
#46
If Trump ever turns his big mouth towards Bernie the independents will end up thinking that
WhoWoodaKnew
May 2016
#41
Exactly! Far too many think of Trump as a politician, he's not. He plays a different game.
RKP5637
May 2016
#126
Democrats are good at making mistakes. I'm afraid of what the 2016 results will be. n/t
RKP5637
May 2016
#127
Bernie needs to stop wasting everyones time and let Hillary pivot to the GE and to the center
ericson00
May 2016
#55
id give the gop attack machine one month before they bring sanders down to under 30% against trump
patsimp
May 2016
#61
How is it news that the most unfavorably viewed Democrat in the history of the party polls weakly
Attorney in Texas
May 2016
#63
All the valid poll analyst say until Bern is out of the race, these type of polls mean nuttin,, LMAO
Cryptoad
May 2016
#73
the closer to the Convention, the more that is going to widen against SOS Clinton
tomm2thumbs
May 2016
#122
This won't surprise anyone who understands the difference between the D candidates
MrMickeysMom
May 2016
#129