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happyslug

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50. What is needed is to legalized over the counter Penicillin.
Fri May 20, 2016, 10:31 AM
May 2016

Penicillin was the first Antibiotic, it had been used in cattle since the 1940s to fatten them (Antibiotics kill various "bugs" in cattle. Those "Bugs" do not affect cattle or people, except in cattle the "bugs" use up a lot of feed that the cattle would have to put on fat and meat, thus getting rid of them permit Cattle to get fat sooner using less feed and thus increases profits).

Penicillin and Tetracycline (Invented 1954, it was the first Antibiotic effective against long term Syphilis, for Tetracycline can enter the water barrier around the brain, Penicillin and Sulfa Drugs could not) are more and more marginal. Legalized them for people who want an Antibiotic over the counter, this includes use in pets and cattle and other animals.

The rest of the Antibiotics should be restricted to Human and prescription only. The less such drugs are used, the less chance that a "bug" will grow immune to it.

Countries with no national medical programs (such as China and the US) would be required to adopt such a program so that people who are sick can afford to go to a doctor to get a prescription (I recently read an article about doctors giving free medical care to various people, most had "Medical Insurance" but could NOT pay the co-pay to get the Medical Care, which is the same as having no medical care). The lack of adequate affordable medical care is one of the reason China permits over the counter antibiotic sales.

Side note: Russia is a special case when it comes to medical care. From the 1920s till the 1960s, its medical care was equal to the west, but deteriorated after about 1965, do to serious under-investment in infrastructure (Many Hospitals did not even have X-ray machines till after 2000 for example). With the dissolution of the Soviet Union, the system went from bad to worse. Starting with Putin becoming President in 1999, the situation has slowly improved. At present Russia is going from the remains of the Soviet System of all medical care being state organization (All doctors were state employees), to a system where medical providers are private operations, but everyone is covered by state mandated health insurance paid by their employer through taxation (Much like the Medicare program in the US). Please note the Hospitals in Russia are all state owned, but instead of looking for direct government support, they are relying on payments through the State health insurance system.

The problems with Russia health care also goes to most members of the Former Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact. For Example the Russia system being adopted is very similar to the system presently being used in Poland. East Germany seems to be the only exception, for the medical system in what was East Germany was just an extension of the previous West German System (which is based on employer paid health insurance, which like Poland covers 98% of the population).

Polish Health System:

http://www.euro.who.int/__data/assets/pdf_file/0018/163053/e96443.pdf

Chances are good that Supetbug will get me before 2050 Voice for Peace May 2016 #1
It's the subsequent generations that will suffer. Bad Dog May 2016 #2
There are vaccines for malaria anigbrowl May 2016 #7
Even so, if malaria primarily affected Wall Street brokers Bad Dog May 2016 #13
Talk is cheap, science is difficult anigbrowl May 2016 #55
I don't have time for people who feel the need to be taken Oh so seriously. Bad Dog May 2016 #56
You didn't know there were vaccines for malaria anigbrowl May 2016 #57
I know you think your opinion is very important. Bad Dog May 2016 #58
In places like China, antibiotics are snagglepuss May 2016 #3
And there's the attitude. Bad Dog May 2016 #4
That is true, and a problem, but in this country the big problem is antibiotics given to livestock, still_one May 2016 #5
In this country we did not vaccinate against foot and mouth Bad Dog May 2016 #12
The same in the US, if you go to a pet store. happyslug May 2016 #48
It is a problem, and a lot of work with new classes of antibiotics, bacterial phages, and vaccines still_one May 2016 #6
So, if we change our approach and put people above profits, we will be saved. jtuck004 May 2016 #8
On the radio they were talking about about trying to disconnect profits from sales. Bad Dog May 2016 #14
You hit the core of the problem mdbl May 2016 #21
Market forces only serve those who can afford to go to the market. Bad Dog May 2016 #22
Greed should never be a prime mover for economic activity. ronnie624 May 2016 #53
Well yes. Bad Dog May 2016 #54
K & R. Thanks for posting. Surya Gayatri May 2016 #9
My pleasure. Bad Dog May 2016 #16
Cold and dank...yes! My building's central heat is STILL on... Surya Gayatri May 2016 #17
I put the heating on last night too. Bad Dog May 2016 #18
By 2050, On the Road May 2016 #10
That's what I was wondering. We need to get beyond the 4 humors, so to speak. jtuck004 May 2016 #19
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All Humans Succumb To Death - Accept Fate And Move On cantbeserious May 2016 #15
You ARE a robot. Dr Hobbitstein May 2016 #28
Clearly Then - A Mortal Robot cantbeserious May 2016 #33
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That's a start. n/t kayakjohnny May 2016 #23
K and R riversedge May 2016 #24
Poverty already kills someone every 3 seconds knightmaar May 2016 #25
Tobacco kills 5 million every year padfun May 2016 #26
Yes, and at least rich people get richer from tobacco, which is the most important thing valerief May 2016 #31
That's because antibiotics work. Bad Dog May 2016 #36
NORTH CAROLINA BETTER GET BUSY... cynzke May 2016 #27
I wouldn't put it past those idiots! nt valerief May 2016 #30
Transgender Bugs - Who Knew cantbeserious May 2016 #34
So how do hedge fund managers get rich from it? If that isn't possible, then we all die, cuz valerief May 2016 #29
Every 3 seconds? That sounds like bogus science to me. Nitram May 2016 #32
It's from the BBC. Bad Dog May 2016 #35
I respect the BBC, but I suspect a scientist did not write that headline. Nitram May 2016 #37
It was written by health editor James Gallagher. Bad Dog May 2016 #38
He wrote the headline? Nitram May 2016 #39
Why don't you follow the link? Bad Dog May 2016 #40
I read the story at the link. The article does not say he wrote his own headline. Nitram May 2016 #41
Believe what you want. Bad Dog May 2016 #42
Sorry, I just have a problem with the way science is reported sometimes. Nitram May 2016 #44
The same words were used on the telly last night. Bad Dog May 2016 #45
You can't go wrongg with news on the telly. Nitram May 2016 #46
It's different from a headline. Bad Dog May 2016 #47
If you multiply that out, it comes to 10.5 million per year padfun May 2016 #43
That wasn't the headline, it came from within the article. Vesper May 2016 #52
It won't make a dent in human overpopulation though FLPanhandle May 2016 #49
What is needed is to legalized over the counter Penicillin. happyslug May 2016 #50
That's only around 10.5 M people lapfog_1 May 2016 #51
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