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OnyxCollie

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20. Prove Snowden is a tool of Putin.

Reply to Blue_Tires (Reply #15)

Wed Feb 3, 2016, 01:28 PM

Feb 2016

I await your factual argument, comprised of refutable statements and supported by empirical evidence.

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Secret US flight flew over Scottish airspace to capture Snowden [View all] bananas Feb 2016 OP

I wish we could suspend DOD spending and 'homeland security' spending , a couple years. Sunlei Feb 2016 #1

So what's the big shock here? Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #2

I think the "shock" is that our government give FAR LESS respect to whistleblowers... cascadiance Feb 2016 #4

The jury is still out on his "whistleblower" status Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #10

PRISM had nothing to do with personal privacy or civil liberties? Are you serious? nt retrowire Feb 2016 #19

The authoritarians come out in full force any time you mention "Snowden" hueymahl Feb 2016 #31

Wrong. The NSA has never been infallible. randome Feb 2016 #35

Wow, it is truly like a dog whistle hueymahl Feb 2016 #37

Don't think I ever had another avatar. randome Feb 2016 #40

Are you and Blue Tires sitting in the same room? hueymahl Feb 2016 #43

Who said the government cares? Snowden has been a nuisance, nothing more. randome Feb 2016 #45

PRISM is a secure means of transmitting data. randome Feb 2016 #33

.... retrowire Feb 2016 #42

And also their usual think4yourself Feb 2016 #44

Communications that they have authorization to collect. randome Feb 2016 #46

uh huh retrowire Feb 2016 #48

Conjecture, not evidence of anything. randome Feb 2016 #50

How is it far fetched to believe that a telecommunications employee would be retrowire Feb 2016 #54

'A' telecommunications employee, no. But ALL of them? randome Feb 2016 #55

Wow, and I though I'd heard every spin LiberalLovinLug Feb 2016 #56

Oh, so this whole charade was just to catch Clapper in a lie? Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #62

Um...no LiberalLovinLug Feb 2016 #70

Greenwald didn't win a Pulitzer Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #71

What exactly have you not been proven wrong about? LiberalLovinLug Feb 2016 #80

"What exactly have you not been proven wrong about?" Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #84

I checked out your OP there LiberalLovinLug Feb 2016 #85

I've pointed out multiple inconsistencies in Snowden's official story Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #86

Oh my LiberalLovinLug Feb 2016 #88

FWIW, I give less than a fuck who calls me what... Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #89

This is going in circles LiberalLovinLug Feb 2016 #90

Once again: Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #91

Whooooooooosh LiberalLovinLug Feb 2016 #93

Just can't leave it alone, can you? Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #94

The jury was never convened because the gov't didn't indict itself. Big surprise. leveymg Feb 2016 #77

Proof that our government is illegally spying on us has nothing to do with personal privacy or civil trillion Feb 2016 #95

There isn't one. davidthegnome Feb 2016 #5

Ah, yes... the part where I point out for the millionth time Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #12

To an extent. davidthegnome Feb 2016 #18

Correction -- He didn't flee to Russia, he defected Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #22

Bullshit. He got stuck in Russia when his passport was revoked. jhart3333 Feb 2016 #23

So Assange telling Snowden to go to Russia was bullshit? Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #28

If Snowden had stayed in any US-friendly state, i.e. followers of the hegemonic leader, OnyxCollie Feb 2016 #30

He didn't defect. OnyxCollie Feb 2016 #24

I can't prove he's not. davidthegnome Feb 2016 #25

So as far as you're concerned, the end justifies the means? Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #29

"(narrowly)" OnyxCollie Feb 2016 #32

So as far as you're concerned, the end justifies the means? OnyxCollie Feb 2016 #39

Some times it does. davidthegnome Feb 2016 #59

Fair enough, good points Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #66

The NSA is forbidden by law from spying domestically. randome Feb 2016 #38

. . . without a FISA warrant. But, they did that and do that, anyway. leveymg Feb 2016 #78

They collected with strict rules about not even looking unless with a warrant. randome Feb 2016 #79

The NSA docs leaked showed that NSA was not following the "strict rules" then in place regarding leveymg Feb 2016 #81

So what? They used every loophole they could find. Was anyone harmed by this? randome Feb 2016 #82

Is anyone harmed when the gov't universally spies on its citizens, profiles them, and retains their leveymg Feb 2016 #83

Too bad that your correction is obvious misinformation as usual. n/t xocet Feb 2016 #41

Oh? So straighten it out for me then, smart guy Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #63

It is what is always has been which is not consistent with what you would like to advertise it as. xocet Feb 2016 #69

It's not consistent, period Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #72

There's no shock navarth Feb 2016 #6

Yep salib Feb 2016 #7

There are more than I'm comfortable with Broward Feb 2016 #14

Don't hold back... Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #15

Prove Snowden is a tool of Putin. OnyxCollie Feb 2016 #20

It should be noted that you cannot respond to OnyxCollie's comment; your shifting misinformation... xocet Feb 2016 #75

No shit. Authoritarians and other things. Enthusiast Feb 2016 #27

Yep. hueymahl Feb 2016 #34

So we sent our magical flying torture bus out to nab someone, JoeyT Feb 2016 #47

Allegedly... Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #65

Actually all of DU was foaming at the mouth over kidnapping and torture JoeyT Feb 2016 #67

You're being revisionist as hell and you know it... Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #74

The Big shock Bad Dog Feb 2016 #53

Just like how he faced harsh questioning Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #64

Protect Moscow's interests Bad Dog Feb 2016 #68

I prefer true fiction... Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #73

The fact that the programs Snowden revealed were illegal is important. He's a whistleblower not a leveymg Feb 2016 #76

Foreign powers homegirl Feb 2016 #3

Of course the UK is complicit... Helen Borg Feb 2016 #8

hmmm.... Ironing Man Feb 2016 #9

It's not about the act itself harun Feb 2016 #11

+1000. nt. polly7 Feb 2016 #13

I'll just leave this here and see myself out Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #16

Isn't Julian Assange Still Holed Up gordyfl Feb 2016 #17

And Sweden. And Australia. randome Feb 2016 #36

Traitors. Octafish Feb 2016 #21

Octafish, some new documents have been released in Denmark bananas Feb 2016 #58

Money. It trumps peace. Octafish Feb 2016 #60

Missed that thread - thanks. nt bananas Feb 2016 #61

Golly gee whillikers. malthaussen Feb 2016 #26

New documents have been released with new details bananas Feb 2016 #57

K&R nt Duval Feb 2016 #49

Well, did they capture him? nt thereismore Feb 2016 #51

A plane flew over Scotland the following day, too! And yesterday, too! randome Feb 2016 #52

Copenhagen extradition plan of Snowden confirmed! TomVilmer Feb 2016 #87

this story made me think of a classic DU thread Enrique Feb 2016 #92