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3. From the original story: "Going dark on Bibi? Of course we wouldn’t do that,”
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 08:29 PM
Dec 2015


Reminder that the Israeli government doesn't sit at the big kids table of US allies when the chips are down in foreign policy--only at meetings of pandering congresscritters.

Because they've proven we can't trust them.
Boo hoo. We should be monitoring governments trying to geek tragedy Dec 2015 #1
I would hope that we are monitoring every government in razorman Dec 2015 #7
Israel isn't an ally like Germany and France are geek tragedy Dec 2015 #9
True enough. But, I thought his order included all of our allies. razorman Dec 2015 #10
No, it was a promise to our closest allies and had a giant loophole geek tragedy Dec 2015 #16
Israel spies on us too. Hell, one of their spies, Jonathan Pollard was just released. brush Dec 2015 #18
And they have fake bacon. How can you trust anyone who calls *that* bacon? nt tblue37 Dec 2015 #24
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #25
We spy on everyone, and everyone spies on us. alfredo Dec 2015 #11
Yep. You're not going to find me crying about this circumstance in the slightest. MADem Dec 2015 #26
LOL. Exactly. All in a day's work. I would hope any of Hortensis Dec 2015 #65
Sanders would ‘absolutely’ end NSA spying oberliner Jan 2016 #92
He said he would stop snooping on Americans not foreign powers nt geek tragedy Jan 2016 #94
Interesting! Wellstone ruled Dec 2015 #2
From the original story: "Going dark on Bibi? Of course we wouldn’t do that,” geek tragedy Dec 2015 #3
We have no allies, only enemies and potential enemies, is what I was told in the Army. alfredo Dec 2015 #13
Spot On Alfredo Yallow Dec 2015 #21
Sad, but true. alfredo Dec 2015 #60
Great effort your making to advance that meme, King_David Dec 2015 #32
Israel doesn't have a collective self-defense treaty with the US. geek tragedy Dec 2015 #34
Israel doesn't need it , all those other countries do... King_David Dec 2015 #36
Note that Hezbollah and Hamas attack Israel without us getting geek tragedy Dec 2015 #42
Keep trying ,keep trying King_David Dec 2015 #48
Israel has a powerful ally within the US, the religious conservative. alfredo Dec 2015 #64
did you have a problem with Israel spying on all the diplomats karynnj Dec 2015 #61
If our congress critters are doing or saying things they're afraid of being caught at doing, napi21 Dec 2015 #4
Same logic as "you only have to worry about government spying on you if ... salib Dec 2015 #6
If the government isn't spying on you, you aren't trying hard enough. alfredo Dec 2015 #12
In the case of Congress, no they're NOT! Obciously they're always napi21 Dec 2015 #19
When members of congress conspire with a foriegn power comradebillyboy Dec 2015 #5
!!!! vkkv Dec 2015 #15
Name names n/t Joe Shlabotnik Dec 2015 #23
There are serious separation of powers issues here. salib Dec 2015 #8
No. Only one branch has the authority to spy on foreign powers nt geek tragedy Dec 2015 #17
But not the authority to then spy on congress critters. salib Dec 2015 #40
The NSA has every right to intercept every communication sent by foreign geek tragedy Dec 2015 #44
They have "the right"? salib Dec 2015 #46
Foreign powers have no constitutional right of privacy geek tragedy Dec 2015 #59
I don't see how Bradical79 Dec 2015 #39
Interesting salib Dec 2015 #43
Still not seeing a separation of powers issue Bradical79 Dec 2015 #47
It is the onus of the government agency that is spying to be sure they are not violating salib Dec 2015 #49
but what's the constitutional violation? Bradical79 Dec 2015 #50
4th amendment. salib Dec 2015 #51
So does the 4th amendment apply to foreign officials outside of the U.S.? Bradical79 Dec 2015 #56
That's not all that happened 6chars Dec 2015 #63
Stop lying. Obama was not spying on US citizens. The NSA was spying on a foreign government geek tragedy Dec 2015 #67
What's your source? Bradical79 Dec 2015 #69
President spying congressional representatives is a pretty big deal 6chars Dec 2015 #55
He wasn't spying on congressional representatives Bradical79 Dec 2015 #57
"do you remember your President Nixon?" geek tragedy Dec 2015 #75
yes there is - should the out of power party collude with a foreign country karynnj Dec 2015 #62
This is only an issue when there's a republican president. n/t hughee99 Jan 2016 #93
Israel does not support our president who won by a "landslide". Israel is no vkkv Dec 2015 #14
True, but as a government, they commit war crimes and steal land. ChairmanAgnostic Dec 2015 #27
Yep - but be careful - you could be tagged as "anti-semitic" !!! vkkv Dec 2015 #72
I am conflicted davidpdx Dec 2015 #20
The Iran deal is not a treaty, executive agreement, signed document, or legally binding. bananas Dec 2015 #22
The Iran deal is not a treaty davidn3600 Dec 2015 #33
Not an executive agreement either Bradical79 Dec 2015 #41
President spying on members of congress. Sounds good to me. 6chars Dec 2015 #28
It's OK - he's one of ours...nt jonno99 Dec 2015 #30
what about spying on congress communications with US pro-Israel groups? 6chars Dec 2015 #38
you're linking to a Kahanist shitrag publication geek tragedy Dec 2015 #45
Cmon , that's the best response you have ? King_David Dec 2015 #52
jewishpress.com is as credible as davidduke.com geek tragedy Dec 2015 #58
By the way, please don't let us ever catch you complaining about Mondoweiss again. geek tragedy Dec 2015 #66
Jewish Press is right wing and I would never use it King_David Dec 2015 #68
Jewishpress is virulently racist--it's run by Kahanists. Weiss attracts a lot of creepy-crawlies geek tragedy Dec 2015 #70
Weiss himself has written bigoted pieces against American Jews such as myself. nt King_David Dec 2015 #74
go ahead and post an example nt geek tragedy Dec 2015 #76
Here's one smLl example King_David Dec 2015 #79
that paragraph objects to the fact it was only Jews debating Israel's future geek tragedy Dec 2015 #81
jewishpress.com is also hideously bigoted towards the GLBT communities geek tragedy Dec 2015 #73
I am not arguing or supporting them, King_David Dec 2015 #77
Jewishpress is racist, EXTREMELY rightwing, and homophobic. geek tragedy Dec 2015 #78
I don't read that publication King_David Dec 2015 #80
Swing and a miss. geek tragedy Dec 2015 #82
You're on DU a lot Mosby Dec 2015 #83
You were saying? geek tragedy Dec 2015 #85
I kept looking at the counterpunch OPs Mosby Dec 2015 #86
there were a few dustups over the Putin Fan Club at DU using Holocaust-denying websites geek tragedy Dec 2015 #87
Kahane called for killing Arabs. JewishPress doesn't do that. shira Dec 2015 #88
CNN and WSJ are reporting the same thing as JewishPress. Try again. n/t shira Dec 2015 #89
President Obama is everything I had hoped for when it Purveyor Dec 2015 #31
Me too : King_David Dec 2015 #37
The NSA was spying on a foreign government, not Congress. Do pay attention. geek tragedy Dec 2015 #35
Snowden's revelations showed the NSA gave raw intel to Israel. OnyxCollie Dec 2015 #29
I'm so glad the NSA picked up the chatter between netanyahu and KKKGOP wo were underthematrix Dec 2015 #53
amazing 6chars Jan 2016 #90
This could have been titled "Israeli lobby corrupts and manipulates US Congress" frizzled Dec 2015 #54
As long as everybody's worshipping the Almighty Dollar, it's cool. Octafish Dec 2015 #71
Kickin' to read later. Faux pas Dec 2015 #84
is very simple UpInArms Jan 2016 #91
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