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Behind the Aegis

(53,994 posts)
23. Once again...uh, no.
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:36 AM
Dec 2015
"YOU just used antisemitism to try and paint someone you disagree with (who is actually better informed) and you are way out of line."


and

"Anyone can go to the site and look for themselves and see who is seeing this with bias."


Wow! We agree on something!

Now, let's look at your previous claims:

"The fact is that Russia has a lower rate of antisemitism than much of the EU." post #10 (I added the bold.)


I corrected that with: "Almost half of the EU has higher rates, some by only a few points, and 16 have lower percentages and with the exception of Greece and France, all of the EU countries with higher percentages of anti-Semitism than Russia, were once under the influence of the USSR/Russia, and in some cases, were part of the USSR." post #16

Members of the EU:
Bulgaria (44%)
Croatia(33%)
France (37%)
Greece (69%)
Hungary (41%)
Lithuania (36%)
Poland (45%)
Romania (35%)
RUSSIA (30%)
Austria (28%),
Belgium (27%),
Czech Republic (13%),
Denmark (9%),
Estonia (22%),
Finland (15%),
Germany (27%),
Ireland (20%),
Italy (20%),
Latvia (28%),
Netherlands (5%),
Portugal (21%),
Slovenia (27%),
Spain (27%),
Sweden (4%),
UK (8%)

Slovakia (NL)
Republic of Cyprus (NL)
Luxembourg (NL), Malta (NL)

Eight (8) higher than Russia, 16 less than Russia -- members of the EU


You claimed: "Antisemitism in Russia is lower than in most of Europe." post #13 (I added the bold.)


I corrected it with: "ETA: You claimed "Antisemitism in Russia is lower than in most of Europe." and again, I say "uh, no." 34 countries were reviewed, 12 were higher than Russia, which means 21 were lower. That does not indicate your claim in the least." post #16

European countries in the ADL review:
Bulgaria (44%)
Croatia(33%)
Serbia (42%)
France (37%)
Greece (69%)
Ukraine (38%)
Belarus (38%)
Bosnia & Herzegovina (32%)
Hungary (41%)
Lithuania (36%)
Poland (45%)
Romania (35%)

RUSSIA (30%)
Moldova (30%)

Montenegro (29%)
Switzerland (26%)
Austria (28%),
Belgium (27%),
Czech Republic (13%),
Denmark (9%),
Estonia (22%),
Finland (15%),
Germany (27%),
Ireland (20%),
Iceland (20%)
Italy (20%),
Latvia (28%),
Netherlands (5%),
Norway (15%)
Portugal (21%),
Slovenia (27%),
Spain (27%),
Sweden (4%),
UK (8%)

European countries surveyed by ADL:
Twelve (12) were greater than Russia, one was equal to Russia, and TWENTY (20) were listed as less anti-Semitic than Russia!

"How about South America?...Asia has a number over 50%"


Oh, changing the goalposts?

"Russia certainly is higher than the states and most of the G8 but it really is not significantly higher than the majority of Europe and it is lower than the East Europe average. "


And yet, that isn't what you originally claimed.

As for my comment about your using anti-Semitism for purposes other than expressing disdain for anti-Semitism....

"One of the reasons I have been interested and posting here is because of the things I see in media that I know to not always be the truth." post #10


And I see you added...

"I did not post the OP to make a specific Point about antisemitism per se." post #19


I suspect it will show up on DemocracyNow.org 's daily news show. trillion Dec 2015 #1
Democracy now is one of the few mass broadcast media left that is truly investigative. newthinking Dec 2015 #12
+2 nomorenomore08 Dec 2015 #47
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True that Nyan Dec 2015 #6
+1,000 n/t LarryNM Dec 2015 #7
Most of the conflicts in the MI and the one in Ukraine we can thank the neocons and newthinking Dec 2015 #13
Thanks, I will. Nyan Dec 2015 #14
It is ironic that the many of the luminaries sulphurdunn Dec 2015 #34
Hate to break the propagated stereotypes newthinking Dec 2015 #10
Disgusting, but thank-you. Behind the Aegis Dec 2015 #16
Not the case. newthinking Dec 2015 #17
Why are you trashing that poster leftynyc Dec 2015 #20
Once again...uh, no. Behind the Aegis Dec 2015 #23
We have a history newthinking Dec 2015 #24
We do? Behind the Aegis Dec 2015 #25
Hey you forgot about me! How come not many RT posts lately snooper2 Dec 2015 #32
I never posted many RT posts. newthinking Dec 2015 #44
The ADL defines antisematism sulphurdunn Dec 2015 #36
Take it up with the poster who used it as the original source. Behind the Aegis Dec 2015 #37
Well, do they do it too? sulphurdunn Dec 2015 #43
It is irrelevant in a discussion about anti-Semitism. Behind the Aegis Dec 2015 #46
Racism is sometimes defined as prejudice sulphurdunn Dec 2015 #49
Given that Jews are minorities in EVERY country BUT the nation of Israel... Behind the Aegis Dec 2015 #50
I wonder sulphurdunn Dec 2015 #51
Uh, no. Behind the Aegis Dec 2015 #52
If a neo-Nazi government sulphurdunn Dec 2015 #53
It isn't a matter of treating anti-Semitism in a vacuum. Behind the Aegis Dec 2015 #54
I believe I was the first one sulphurdunn Dec 2015 #56
This message was self-deleted by its author Behind the Aegis Dec 2015 #58
ADL is a totally reputable outfit. JackRiddler Dec 2015 #26
Yes newthinking Dec 2015 #30
I did not post the OP to make a specific newthinking Dec 2015 #19
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