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Tue Jun 9, 2015, 07:33 AM Jun 2015

Donald Rumsfeld: George W. Bush was wrong about Iraq [View all]

Source: MSNBC

President George W. Bush was wrong to try to build democracy in Iraq, former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said in a recent interview, marking a striking admission from a key player behind the 2003 U.S. invasion.

In an interview with British newspaper The Times, Rumsfeld said that efforts to oust Saddam Hussein and replace his tyrannical regime with democracy were unworkable, and that he had concerns about the plan from the beginning.


“I’m not one who thinks that our particular template of democracy is appropriate for other countries at every moment of their histories,” Rumsfeld told The Times. “The idea that we could fashion a democracy in Iraq seemed to me unrealistic. I was concerned about it when I first heard those words.”

Rumsfeld, who served under Bush from 2001 to 2006, has previously defended the administration’s actions in the run-up to the war, which dragged on for years before formally ending in 2011.

Read more: http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/donald-rumsfeld-george-w-bush-was-wrong-about-iraq





* Feb. 7, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, to U.S. troops in Aviano, Italy: "It is unknowable how long that conflict will last. It could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months."

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/educate/war28-article.htm

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Don't worry Rummy, your spot in hell is secure davidpdx Jun 2015 #1
Spot on madokie Jun 2015 #7
Well, don't believe there is a "hell", but where rumsfailed needs to be joshdawg Jun 2015 #11
He has an open invitation to visit The Hague. Elmer S. E. Dump Jun 2015 #40
So many went along to get along. God forgive them. nt raouldukelives Jun 2015 #45
When the troops requsted better body armor, AngryDem001 Jun 2015 #49
It wasn't body armor, and the quote is the most famous Rummy quote there is jmowreader Jun 2015 #54
+ 100% UpInArms Jun 2015 #64
I hough his most famous quote was OrwellwasRight Jun 2015 #70
You forgot Satan himself, Shiraz Jun 2015 #63
How the hell could I have forgotten him! davidpdx Jun 2015 #74
Good thing he spoke up about it & reminded Dick of his words in '91 about invading Iraq Roland99 Jun 2015 #2
He's just testing the Presidential waters. sofa king Jun 2015 #3
murderous psychopaths - and their brothers Betty Karlson Jun 2015 #21
But he went along ......... Historic NY Jun 2015 #4
good post and he should have known to say no & leave the *admin wordpix Jun 2015 #24
As a PNACer, he was an architect of the plot, not a "go along." In fact, he tblue37 Jun 2015 #73
At least the war is over and we have a sovereign Iraqi state.... jakeXT Jun 2015 #5
They propped up U.S.and Saudi oil prices dreamnightwind Jun 2015 #12
The democracy part was just there to sell it to the public /nt jakeXT Jun 2015 #13
This one ^^^ leveymg Jun 2015 #48
Rumsfeld turning on Bush. As if he was not one of the architects. Rich! newthinking Jun 2015 #6
He's up to something. Awkwardly trying to remove his name from the slate of war criminals. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2015 #41
and then there are those pesky little known knowns. Kip Humphrey Jun 2015 #8
I remember Rumsfeld leading a news conference telling the media stooges bulloney Jun 2015 #10
warmonger's remorse 90-percent Jun 2015 #17
Do sociopaths experience remorse? - nt KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #27
+1 BeanMusical Jun 2015 #35
Wait, what?!?... damyank913 Jun 2015 #9
Support our Oops! - nt KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #28
This ^^^ OrwellwasRight Jun 2015 #71
Not sure what your'e getting at as a reply to my comment... damyank913 Jun 2015 #75
It was my rather lame attempt to play off the then-ubiquitous "Support KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #77
I thought that you might have meant that... damyank913 Jun 2015 #79
The gall and chutzpah of this man. nt DRoseDARs Jun 2015 #14
And the nerve. nt 6chars Jun 2015 #52
There were no plans to set up a government in Iraq, only to invade it. The Sunni government was DhhD Jun 2015 #15
I recall an article posted here on DU from a civil engineer underpants Jun 2015 #29
As Walter Sobchak said: deutsey Jun 2015 #16
Lol! BeanMusical Jun 2015 #36
Hey Rummy, we aren't all dead yet! peace13 Jun 2015 #18
He's a herpes sore on humanity. nt valerief Jun 2015 #19
That man should be dancing from the end of a rope just like Saddam did .....n/t Hotler Jun 2015 #20
Rewriting history NV Whino Jun 2015 #22
On Sept. 12, 2001 Rummy was pushing for a war in Iraq Botany Jun 2015 #34
Unfortunately there is a large number of people out there with short term or selective memories NV Whino Jun 2015 #42
When I was a kid living in NW PA our next door neighbor's brother was Governor of PA Botany Jun 2015 #43
They were not doing nation building... Helen Borg Jun 2015 #23
Trying to avoid prison time. The tides are turning against these war criminals and Rummy is one. Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #25
Really, Rummy, now a warning. mountain grammy Jun 2015 #26
Donald Rumsfeld convinces me the need for Capital punishment for War Crimes. gordianot Jun 2015 #30
Not nation building, nation looting. kairos12 Jun 2015 #31
Lol-Nice try donnie. STUPID, but still-nice try........ n/t fredamae Jun 2015 #32
Right Ahpook Jun 2015 #33
Going all out mercuryblues Jun 2015 #37
Sounds like the Rats are starting to turn on each other. Punx Jun 2015 #38
If we simply installed a new dictator, could it still be called "Operation Iraqi Freedom"??? Martin Eden Jun 2015 #39
The poor dear. So misunderstood. Solly Mack Jun 2015 #44
Translation: "Please give me a job in your administration, Jeb, I've got the shakes." Arkana Jun 2015 #46
Let the finger pointing begin. All the way to the Hague. vkkv Jun 2015 #47
Iraq should ask for extradition of these war criminals before they die of old age. Sunlei Jun 2015 #50
So i guess that leaves Cheney & Bush as the only ones still defending it.... 7962 Jun 2015 #51
From the Pentagon propaganda: OnyxCollie Jun 2015 #53
230,000 Vets w/traumatic brain damage Botany Jun 2015 #55
There he goes again, trying to wiggle out of his share of blame. herding cats Jun 2015 #56
"Precisely because we have no territorial objectives, OnyxCollie Jun 2015 #57
Wait, you told us that freedomdemocracy was just 'untidy'. deminks Jun 2015 #58
Under the bus you go, George! yellowcanine Jun 2015 #59
Was wondering when Rummy would have his 'McNamara Moment' Jake Stern Jun 2015 #60
fucktards thought they could "spread" democracy like peanut butter UpInArms Jun 2015 #61
as if he is any more credible Kali Jun 2015 #62
No shit ismnotwasm Jun 2015 #65
Some of us remember PNAC and regime change suffragette Jun 2015 #66
Only in this country could that lying sack of shit say that and not worry about the M$M. Rex Jun 2015 #67
Cheap seat chicken-chit banter from a man who wasted American lives laserhaas Jun 2015 #68
LOL Skittles Jun 2015 #69
PNAC signer Rummy was, like all the PNACers, looking for a new "Pearl Harbor" tblue37 Jun 2015 #72
Liar Liar pants on fire JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #76
I think we could call this a known known. PuraVidaDreamin Jun 2015 #78
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