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In reply to the discussion: SOME DOCTORS WON'T SEE PATIENTS WITH ANTI-VACCINE VIEWS [View all]proverbialwisdom
(4,959 posts)73. Substantive pushback comment... "even pro-vaccine parents have a threshold of compliance."
Just saw this citation filled comment and, overlooking the need for editing, it's definitely worth a read. Check it out for the information. Please ignore any snark or editorializing.
http://www.ageofautism.com/2015/01/losing-every-battle-winning-the-war.html#comments
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Posted by: VaccineInformation | January 30, 2015 at 12:30 PM
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...would like to address a statement in this excellent article, and see vaccination rates return to historical highs.
Vaccination rates are at already at historical highs- right now. According to the CDC, from the Measles vaccine licensing in 1963 through 1986 measles coverage never exceeded 70% in the surveyed population (toddlers). Rates only broke 90% in 1996- a convergence of the NVICP indemnifying manufacturers and providers (1986), Vaccines for Children (1994), the funding scheme that provides all required vaccines free of charge, and the dusting off and expanding State School attendance small pox requirements to include the routine childhood infections (late 70s). Only then did rates reached todays near universal levels. In the case of measles we had 23 years where 30% of the population was not getting vaccinated by 36 months, yet there were not the raging epidemics of the type we are warned will occur if today if the 96% drops to 95.8%. http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/G/coverage.pdf
California Rates https://www.scribd.com/doc/107086647/AoA-CA-Slides
The idea that there was a Golden Age of vaccination in the past when parents were more rational, less hysterical, and vaccine rates and acceptance was higher than the stupid parents of today are creating is absolutely false.
The Golden Age meme was created by the Vaccine Industry to push state legislation to eliminate non-medical exemptions, by pointing to rising exemption rates and misrepresenting that vaccination rates are falling. The rates simply are not falling- the expanding schedule, and the way exemptions measured, (a student who is fully vaccinated for all requirements but one dose of one vaccine, or opts out of chicken pox), is measured as both vaccinated, and exempt. In Vermont, Washington and California Vaccine Industry proponents lobbied the legislature with CDC 431x314 only 65% coverage statistics - an assessment of 35 month old toddlers (not in school therefore not subject to requirements) to a dream, kitchen sink schedule of everything by certain age milestones, so exclusionary that it calls anyone missing a single dose or date as unvaccinated. The Vaccine Industry pretended it was the school age rates and vaccines, and implied that 35% of kids are completely unvaccinated. When in reality in all states exceed 90% kindergarten adherence, and 95% 7th grade adherence to school requirements. Fear mongered California and Washington legislators fell for it, Vermont legislators figured it out and rejected the legislation. Anyone without young children has no idea of the schedule today, and that a child borne today will have more vaccines by the time he is two years old than anyone over 30 has had in their whole life.
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Part of the current assault on non-medical exemptions is because of the doubling of the exemption rate from 1-3% to 2-5% caused by adding Chicken Pox. This put the Vaccine Industry on notice that even pro-vaccine parents have a threshold of compliance. I have often heard voiced, Look, I get Polio, and Diphtheria, but Chicken Pox? Really? The Vaccine Industry is rushing to create a regulatory framework in which it will be near impossible to opt out of any of the 200 plus vaccines that are in the pipeline, for conditions equally minor as Chicken Pox, or as rare and difficult to contract as Hep B. The Vaccine Industry wants to force you to get your child injected when their common wart vaccine is ready. The number of people exercising exemptions today is within the margin of error of most CDC surveys.
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Posted by: VaccineInformation | January 30, 2015 at 12:30 PM
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send them into the arms of quacks? maybe they can just start the pray away the sickness thing
msongs
Jan 2015
#2
Selectively ignoring inconvenient science is an unsustainable approach.
proverbialwisdom
Jan 2015
#37
Good. Babies won't be infected with measles or whooping cough when they visit that doctor's office.
JDPriestly
Jan 2015
#10
Page 30: "...JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR, with whom JUSTICE GINSBERG joins, dissenting."
proverbialwisdom
Jan 2015
#21
No, Kaiser Permante Chairman Bernard Tyson via CNBC. Watch the video here.
proverbialwisdom
Jan 2015
#35
Nuance, please. See IACC Transcript: "They are two different things and we call it all autism."
proverbialwisdom
Jan 2015
#60
That is not settled science no matter how many times you repeat yourself. (nt)
proverbialwisdom
Jan 2015
#71
Find me a single direct link to Natural News. ANS: DOES NOT EXIST. I don't read the site ever.
proverbialwisdom
Jan 2015
#52
AOA posts wouldn't survive the DU jury system if what you claim is true, but it's not. Sorry. (nt)
proverbialwisdom
Jan 2015
#55
It's science, not woo. Otherwise it would be hidden by the discerning juries on DU. (nt)
proverbialwisdom
Jan 2015
#72
It's hard to justify hiding unpopular material when it's clearly fact based science, and DU has not.
proverbialwisdom
Jan 2015
#78
In my experience on this topic, posts with scientific citations stay & op-eds are instantly canned.
proverbialwisdom
Jan 2015
#81
That's a malicious mischaracterization. I can count my total hidden posts on one hand. (nt)
proverbialwisdom
Jan 2015
#88
You want a food fight; I'm not interested. Get up to speed or don't, your prerogative.
proverbialwisdom
Jan 2015
#54
You're talking about people who believe their doctor wants to poison their child
jeff47
Jan 2015
#41
If they stopped seeing every patient who wouldn't follow their advice, they would go bankrupt.
livetohike
Jan 2015
#28
I'm all for taunting your T-cells with mashed bacteria husks, but they seem madder at
MisterP
Jan 2015
#67
Substantive pushback comment... "even pro-vaccine parents have a threshold of compliance."
proverbialwisdom
Jan 2015
#73