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ElizabethB

(24 posts)
41. Okay in Baby steps
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 02:23 AM
Jul 2012

My whole point is that I think men should be routinely screened for Prostate Cancer. It is 100% treatable if they can catch it within the prostate because most cases are slow moving and they can simply keep monitoring it with the PSA test. Many times men will end up dying of some other cause in these cases. However, if it spreads outside...its a death sentence. My dad didn't catch it...3 of my relatives did. He's the only one that is dying.

It's a simple blood test and it's not risky. If you tested positive you would decided with your doctor as to what treatment to pursue (if any).Sometimes they just do "watchful waiting"...which means they keep giving you the PSA test to see how fast it is growing and where its going. Why wouldn't you want the knowledge?? And yes, sometimes the test gives "false positives" but in that case, they simply recommend you to take another one and they start measuring the changes. Most importantly, its the best and only test of its kind that we have to date. Were you aware that there was not one urologist on that "expert panel" but the majority of urologists disagree with the panels decision? By eliminating the test you are saying...its okay to let some men die because they will only find out once they exhibit physical symptoms (it likely has matastazied). It is cheaper at this point though! (They die quickly).

The USPTF gave routine PSA testing a "grade D" . However once someone is actually diagnosed with prostate cancer or is being treated then they recommend it. If you can't screen for it anymore, presumably you will be diagnosed once you are exhibiting physical symptoms (it has likely metastasized).

The Oklahoma BCBS website that you showed me indicates they (along with the ACA) cover services and items given a grade A or B.

Then they list "prostate screening" as a covered service.

It's an exclusionary provision. They do cover PSA testing for some men (men that already have physical symptoms of prostate cancer or are being treated for it already). It's a risk/loss analysis. They've decided it's okay to let a certain number of men die from it rather than screen people which is expensive. Apparently you are okay with it too?! Hope you are never forced to change your mind on that line of thinking! And hey, the chairman of the USPSTF is a pediatrician and she disagrees with the American Urologist Association and American Cancer Society. I never thought to ask my child's doctor about these issues! Who knew!

Elizabeth Edwards?? Control-Z Jul 2012 #1
I hope he's flooded with wake-up calls Ilsa Jul 2012 #2
Check your facts...No more routine checkups anyway! ElizabethB Jul 2012 #3
Yeah, damn that Obama! Iggo Jul 2012 #4
It's not Obama's "Preventive Services Task Force" OKNancy Jul 2012 #5
You are wrong again ElizabethB Jul 2012 #13
preventative medicine is not FFRREEEE under obamacare. mopinko Jul 2012 #6
That's awesome ElizabethB Jul 2012 #14
can you provide me with a link stating that they aren't? mopinko Jul 2012 #16
Yes, but have you heard of Google? It's really helpful :) ElizabethB Jul 2012 #17
it doesn't say anything about insurance coverage. mopinko Jul 2012 #18
Once again...please try google ElizabethB Jul 2012 #19
this is how it works on du- you make a statement mopinko Jul 2012 #49
Here you go, this shows they will be covered in routine checkups. uppityperson Jul 2012 #33
They will be covered. cyberswede Jul 2012 #34
Yay for more Faux Snooze misinformation!! BumRushDaShow Jul 2012 #8
I'm not quoting Fox ElizabethB Jul 2012 #20
Link? trumad Jul 2012 #9
Tell us more about the death panels that don't really exist! Arkana Jul 2012 #11
Okay, but this isn't just "politics" for me ElizabethB Jul 2012 #21
That is not in the ACA. Ruby the Liberal Jul 2012 #22
It's not fear mongering...it's reality. ElizabethB Jul 2012 #23
How's this? cyberswede Jul 2012 #25
For crying outloud....Thanks for proving my point! ElizabethB Jul 2012 #35
Unnecessary to screen EVERYONE. How does showing covered screenings mean they won't be covered? uppityperson Jul 2012 #36
Okay in Baby steps ElizabethB Jul 2012 #41
Your link goes to 1995 Guide. Here's current info on PSA tests, etc, from uspstf uppityperson Jul 2012 #26
Sorry for the error but it says the same thing anyway!!! ElizabethB Jul 2012 #28
Not for everyone. There are reasons why. Did you read those? uppityperson Jul 2012 #31
Oh for Pete's sake... cyberswede Jul 2012 #32
Yes and I responded his post as well---that just proves my point ElizabethB Jul 2012 #42
uspstf on breast cancer screenings... uppityperson Jul 2012 #27
And like I said before ElizabethB Jul 2012 #29
"The decision to start regular, biennial screening mammography before the age of 50 should be an... uppityperson Jul 2012 #30
But ACA will cover them. nt uppityperson Jul 2012 #37
Perhaps that is because Breast Cancer SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #40
DRE and PCA3 are 2 other tests, PSA is not "the ONLY test". uppityperson Jul 2012 #24
You should probably stop drinking the red stuff in your thermometer. Arkana Jul 2012 #47
Links & Views ElizabethB Jul 2012 #12
You don't like the fact that Obamacare will continue to cover psa and mammograms? Seriously? uppityperson Jul 2012 #38
you are misinforming people ElizabethB Jul 2012 #43
And evidently Republicans don't die of acute stupidity. hobbit709 Jul 2012 #7
I'm sure Mr. Collins is drawing on years of medical experience Arkana Jul 2012 #10
Knowledge is dangerous and Ignorance is cheap $$$ ElizabethB Jul 2012 #15
Since it is in the ACA that ins companies cover them, how is it healthcare rationing? uppityperson Jul 2012 #39
Why are you doing this? ElizabethB Jul 2012 #44
Oh goodness here: SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #45
ummm yeah...but the Topic of the thread was the PSA test for Prostate Cancer ElizabethB Jul 2012 #46
Oh I see, SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #48
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