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msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 09:02 AM Mar 2017

My Cousin, A Trump Supporter, Just Changed His Mind. [View all]

Last edited Fri Mar 17, 2017, 10:18 AM - Edit history (1)

His daughter is 26 years old and pregnant. And completely uninsurable thanks to two bouts of childhood leukemia.

And he cried when he asked me "How is she supposed to live?" He'd already called his Congress Critter and asked that question, and got no help from the staff.

"She isn't supposed to live, Matty. She's an actuarial nightmare, a drain on resources. That's the thing when Nazis are in power... They really do believe in eugenics."

And he got it..... that's the thing, isn't it? When you elect Nazis, you must be ready for the self-cleansing purges that will come for you and yours, too.

Edited to add......should have sent him this.....


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Too bad the instrument had to be so blunt and heavy . . . hatrack Mar 2017 #1
oh he was paying attention..... msanthrope Mar 2017 #19
Then he wasn't paying attention well enough. hamsterjill Mar 2017 #72
We are going to see Darwin's Law in super-fast motion adigal Mar 2017 #121
But pussy-grabbing was OK I guess. rivegauche Mar 2017 #89
oh he simply refused to acknowledge that that even existed.. msanthrope Mar 2017 #93
Trump ran on "Repeal Obamacare!" so how could he think... Honeycombe8 Mar 2017 #95
that's it.. he wasn't thinking MN_Caucus Mar 2017 #127
The people who SEEM to be voting against their own interests really aren't The Sand Reckoner Mar 2017 #144
I would've disagreed with you a year ago. Honeycombe8 Mar 2017 #146
Both candidates had been showing us who they were for Ilsa Mar 2017 #39
Worse than gullible. lark Mar 2017 #90
Totally. I hope if there is an eternity that your words will cycle constantly. erronis Mar 2017 #116
Fuck them. I have no pity for them either. Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2017 #137
+++++ JHan Mar 2017 #80
He heard what he WANTED to hear. nikibatts Mar 2017 #149
To Ryan and Trump she is a useless eater. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2017 #2
She's a taker. msanthrope Mar 2017 #12
BUT, she MUST have that baby Amimnoch Mar 2017 #46
Sadly, they already fear complications and developmental issues. msanthrope Mar 2017 #49
Who did she vote for?? nt adigal Mar 2017 #122
She didn't, I think. nt msanthrope Mar 2017 #133
Well, I hope you get her registered and to the polls to undo her father's vote adigal Mar 2017 #134
Is she insured now? karynnj Mar 2017 #70
she turns 27. nt msanthrope Mar 2017 #74
You go off your parents plan when you turn 26. karynnj Mar 2017 #83
this is insurance through his employer. msanthrope Mar 2017 #84
Might this be considered a "qualifying event" that could enable her Tanuki Mar 2017 #87
this is why I've asked him to go to his HR person.... msanthrope Mar 2017 #96
Did she plan to have this pregnancy? cwydro Mar 2017 #120
Didn't ask her. Let her know that I was there for her. nt msanthrope Mar 2017 #132
Less expensive than the cost of the doctor and hospital when the baby comes karynnj Mar 2017 #135
Yup workinclasszero Mar 2017 #47
Trump's just doing what he promised. eom Blanks Mar 2017 #3
Wait Applan Mar 2017 #9
there will be cheaper and Better Health Care, once we eliminate msanthrope Mar 2017 #14
He promised lots of things... Blanks Mar 2017 #31
As Dick Chney would say: maddiemom Mar 2017 #75
That's the Thing, Isn't it? jaxind Mar 2017 #4
"Hey, wait a minute! I'm one of the people whose AJT Mar 2017 #20
always been this way... Phentex Mar 2017 #26
I vacillate between being hard-nosed about this and being compassionate. Eyeball_Kid Mar 2017 #32
They only notice this once THEY are affected Ezior Mar 2017 #43
Exacty this - 62 million voters need to be personally affected Juliusseizure Mar 2017 #51
They may well get that opportunity. Ligyron Mar 2017 #110
It's because.... paleotn Mar 2017 #119
Trump views his daughter solely as a pussy to be grabbed, so your cousin gets no KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #5
No.... but I pity his daughter and her baby. nt msanthrope Mar 2017 #13
I hear ya. Thank you for reminding me not to KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #16
Oh......don't get me wrong...... msanthrope Mar 2017 #18
I'm reminded of a quote by Stalin (who, believe it or not, had a KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #21
He did have some witty things to say. Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2017 #139
Eff him Johnny2X2X Mar 2017 #6
Exactly CountAllVotes Mar 2017 #7
Nailed it! SammyWinstonJack Mar 2017 #8
Oh......my pity is for his daughter and her baby. msanthrope Mar 2017 #11
IMO, it's people like your cousin who often make the most passionate political activists. Eyeball_Kid Mar 2017 #34
Is your cousin striking back? Has he stopped all contributions to Republicans? Has he NCjack Mar 2017 #64
Where did you hear "re-emerging values as a compassionate human being?" Maru Kitteh Mar 2017 #69
You're thinking of empathy leftstreet Mar 2017 #117
When he told me how he was waiting for Hillary Clinton to be locked up. LenaBaby61 Mar 2017 #60
It remains to be seen if he is a traitor. Grammy23 Mar 2017 #67
I didn't ask dot dot dot too upset about his daughter, and frankly that's a fight for another day. msanthrope Mar 2017 #68
Not that I'll be forgetting it anytime soon though... LenaBaby61 Mar 2017 #94
I'm Sicilian... I may wait in the tall weeds for 20 years, msanthrope Mar 2017 #101
1000+ Bengus81 Mar 2017 #59
Yup...no pity for the shortsighted Trumpkins. LOL Lib Mar 2017 #128
"I can't believe that Tiger bit me in the face" A HERETIC I AM Mar 2017 #10
LOL. Seen this many times, but it still provokes a giggle! :) - nt KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #23
+1000 smirkymonkey Mar 2017 #36
i hope he turns his despair into action barbtries Mar 2017 #15
we discussed that... He's actually going to his congressperson's local office today. msanthrope Mar 2017 #17
Did he know that ObamaCare and the ACA were the same thing? ecstatic Mar 2017 #22
he thought the only people who were going to lose insurance msanthrope Mar 2017 #29
Yes and they STFU once they had their insurance settled... bettyellen Mar 2017 #55
Yep I just posted about these types of voters. Did he get his daughter to vote Trump ? lunasun Mar 2017 #56
I don't think she voted at all. nt msanthrope Mar 2017 #102
Reading the thread left me feeling bad for his daughter, but this... CincyDem Mar 2017 #153
I was young and stupid once. I'm hoping she grows up a bit. nt msanthrope Mar 2017 #154
I was young and stupid once too. Now my wife tells me one of them has changed. :-) CincyDem Mar 2017 #155
Is he a racist? herding cats Mar 2017 #77
yes......he's the type of racist that msanthrope Mar 2017 #97
They haven't repealed the ACA yet IronLionZion Mar 2017 #24
There's no Planned Parenthood msanthrope Mar 2017 #33
The ACA is still federal law. Were I in his shoes, I'd want to consult with a lawyer for a possible Eyeball_Kid Mar 2017 #41
Yeah....he called me because of my law degree. msanthrope Mar 2017 #45
Have you seen the letter from his insurance company? yardwork Mar 2017 #65
this is exactly what I've explained to him.... msanthrope Mar 2017 #73
Well, that's one of the problems with the ACA. yardwork Mar 2017 #79
If he is on a marketplace plan she can stay on it until December lostnfound Mar 2017 #103
Enrollment under the ACA is closed and by the time it reopens, Blue_true Mar 2017 #138
Qualifying Life Events IronLionZion Mar 2017 #143
Was he actually remorseful about supporting Trump. Fla Dem Mar 2017 #25
He's very upset about Trump going to Mar-a-lago. msanthrope Mar 2017 #35
His changing opinion is a personal example of what's happening nationally. Better late than never. Eyeball_Kid Mar 2017 #42
He's very upset about Trump going to Mar-a-lago. LenaBaby61 Mar 2017 #62
Not like Trump didn't campaign as an embarrassment. nt Blue_true Mar 2017 #141
Fuck You Trump Posting Anonymously Mar 2017 #27
That was brave! smirkymonkey Mar 2017 #40
They ended the Man in the High Castle this season... HopeAgain Mar 2017 #28
Actuarial Eugenics. That's the Repeal. nt msanthrope Mar 2017 #37
You had me at "Congress Critter" Roy Rolling Mar 2017 #30
They always wake up Bettie Mar 2017 #38
That's human nature, Bettie. A lot of people, including those on the liberal side of the spectrum, Eyeball_Kid Mar 2017 #44
how many children had to die before America turned against the Iraq War? msanthrope Mar 2017 #48
Yeah, I get that Bettie Mar 2017 #57
I wouldn't label it human nature Juliusseizure Mar 2017 #76
Because a woman president would be so much worse mountain grammy Mar 2017 #50
there is an old, often quoted saw DonCoquixote Mar 2017 #52
"Oh, I know..." ailsagirl Mar 2017 #53
Recommended. H2O Man Mar 2017 #54
How is she supposed to live?? VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS!! Bengus81 Mar 2017 #58
Lots of missing facts, but she might have options karynnj Mar 2017 #61
well this is precisely why I've asked him to go in and talk to the HR representative msanthrope Mar 2017 #82
It sounds like she is 25, not 26 --- and still on his policy at this point karynnj Mar 2017 #86
no she's 26. msanthrope Mar 2017 #99
I would bet that she was not the only person to let insurance drop without getting new coverage -- karynnj Mar 2017 #104
Repealing Pre-existing Conditions and Finding Affordable Health Ins. - Good Luck With That TheOther95Percent Mar 2017 #145
I think you can get on the ACA after the deadline if your circumstances have changed renate Mar 2017 #85
Losing insurance does count -- I think turning 26 is when you lose being on a parent's policy. karynnj Mar 2017 #88
And I suspect he wouldn't give a flying fuck PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2017 #63
True. And a safety net is only good for corporations and billionaires who want bailouts. lostnfound Mar 2017 #111
I hope for a positive outcome for your cousin and her baby. greatauntoftriplets Mar 2017 #66
I'm sorry for him, and his daughter. LisaM Mar 2017 #71
I'm torn. Adrahil Mar 2017 #78
Reading through the above posts, he voted for CakeGrrl Mar 2017 #148
Exactly correct. Mores the pity. NT Adrahil Mar 2017 #152
Excellent! gratuitous Mar 2017 #81
Sadly, they never "get it" until it lands in their laps. Vinca Mar 2017 #91
I've know a die hard Trump supporter who had a similar reaction last week xor Mar 2017 #92
It's very common abuse victim reaction to go back to the abuser lunatica Mar 2017 #109
Holy Mother of God ..... flying-skeleton Mar 2017 #98
so now you understand why I sent my cousin information on CHIP.... msanthrope Mar 2017 #100
Healthcare.gov Multichromatic Mar 2017 #105
Many Voted For Trump... LovingA2andMI Mar 2017 #106
Maybe she is eligible for CHIP. It sometimes covers pregnant women. lostnfound Mar 2017 #107
Oh yrah......I sent him CHIP info...along with the fact HRC started it. nt msanthrope Mar 2017 #114
That's really tragic for his daughter lunatica Mar 2017 #108
I hate to say this ... Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2017 #112
All is not lost... mickmten Mar 2017 #113
"Oh I know" the rubes fell for a snake oil salesman. sarcasmo Mar 2017 #115
But while they regret voting for Trump TexasBushwhacker Mar 2017 #140
Oh, well. Tell him that I hope he lives in a blue state, they may step in for her adigal Mar 2017 #118
Sadly, too darn bad DownriverDem Mar 2017 #123
The thing is, we are all "actuarial nightmares" TexasBushwhacker Mar 2017 #124
That must be a win for him. classykaren Mar 2017 #125
I'm so sorry about your niece, msanthrope. I hope she survives okay... Hekate Mar 2017 #126
I don't think a single actual DUer would ever turn my cousin, or his daughter away. msanthrope Mar 2017 #131
Your idea about relatives in blue states may be her best hope. Blue_true Mar 2017 #142
It's all a matter of priorities The Sand Reckoner Mar 2017 #150
They should both call their Senators wryter2000 Mar 2017 #129
only when his daughter becomes one of THOSE PEOPLE Skittles Mar 2017 #130
... Warren DeMontague Mar 2017 #136
When it happens to your own only then do you care. Doreen Mar 2017 #147
I watched a good part of that interview Major Nikon Mar 2017 #151
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