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magical thyme

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11. Anne's horse had a problem with his coffin bone
Tue Jun 26, 2012, 01:07 PM
Jun 2012

(major hoof bone) which showed up on x-ray when she first bought him. The vet at the time said he didn't expect it to be an issue.

From what I read, they had him on anti-inflammatories through his training and competition life to prevent problems from developing. Over time, his performance in became erratic and began to deteriorate and his competition scores declined. That is when Anne decided to sell him.

That, to me, is abuse. Anne certainly knew her horse was unsound and knew he was on drugs, although my guess is she had no idea of the type or extent of the drugging, not to mention the risks involved (all 4 drugs slow the heart rate and depress respiration).

In any event, a horse should not need to be drugged on a regular basis to do a job, period. On occasion it can be helpful to use either a painkiller (if exercise will help recovery) or a tranquilizer (if a horse has been stall bound for an extended period, to prevent re-injury or further injury due to excess exuberance) temporarily while rehabbing.

But this was not that kind of situation. The horse's performance was deteriorating means he was suffering increasing pain and injury. He should have been retired, either to pasture or light trail riding. The nature, not to mention character, of the pain killers, too, suggest severe pain.

The buyer was also a client of Ebeling and for a pre-purchase exam used the vet that Ebeling recommended. That vet listed 2 sedatives used for the x-rays (which are typically used in combination to keep the horse calm and still). During a pre-purchase of an expensive horse, the vet will typically take a blood sample for the buyer. The specimen is kept frozen in case a drugging dispute arises. In this case, a dispute arose and the buyer had toxicology tests run on the specimen, which showed 3 sedatives and one sedative/analgesic (pain killer) in the horse's system. Ebeling's vet says he knew nothing of the extra 2 drugs. Ebeling claims to know nothing of them either, but clearly one of them did and Ebeling was the one who stood to gain from the sale (while the vet stood to lose his reputation and possibly his license from his actions).

Anne was dropped from the case and Ebeling settled out of court.

it depends on the trainer and the training methods used. n/t Scout Jun 2012 #1
being around the Romneys likely is, regardless of activity. hlthe2b Jun 2012 #2
They don't need to. They have George W. Bush keep it company in the trailer... JHB Jun 2012 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Turbineguy Jun 2012 #3
Only if the horse isn't into it slackmaster Jun 2012 #4
Good God. Don't put a mirror in front of Heidi Junior Mira Jun 2012 #16
No Tsiyu Jun 2012 #5
Rollkur technique Dalai_1 Jun 2012 #9
I think thats the best ride I've ever seen. Vanje Jun 2012 #10
What a find! Thank you for this post Mira Jun 2012 #15
Thank You Mira Dalai_1 Jun 2012 #24
Looks dreadfully hard on the knees... What kind of long term damage is done 1monster Jun 2012 #19
none magical thyme Jun 2012 #22
Read post 26... and draw your own conclusions. 1monster Jun 2012 #34
my conclusion remains the same magical thyme Jun 2012 #35
The Horse in the Video Dalai_1 Jun 2012 #26
she was retired after falling from a ramp onto paved driveway magical thyme Jun 2012 #41
Less than any sort of running. kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #51
Rollkur technique is not classical dressage magical thyme Jun 2012 #49
Do you really believe Ann Romney is cruel to her horse? Puzzledtraveller Jun 2012 #12
Why not? They were sued (and settled) for selling a horse that was pumped so full of drugs... Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2012 #23
If you want to know how a person will treat an animal Pab Sungenis Jun 2012 #32
I know you are not asking me, but I think both romneys are cruel people. notadmblnd Jun 2012 #46
I've responded to this insinuation elsewhere. Copy below magical thyme Jun 2012 #6
Thank you for a careful reply to what may hedgehog Jun 2012 #8
Anne's horse had a problem with his coffin bone magical thyme Jun 2012 #11
No. But too many practitioners are. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #13
Just curious - does this take a special breed of horse or can any riding horse learn to do that? jwirr Jun 2012 #14
contrary to what some people might say, no, it does not magical thyme Jun 2012 #18
A friend of mine had an appaloosa trained to very high level Vanje Jun 2012 #29
Cool! That Appaloosa probably had lots of Arabian genes Larkspur Jun 2012 #36
Ahhhh, so that explains why so many Appys are batshit crazy like Egyptian Arabians...... kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #52
yup. Appy's can be very good, I learned on t-breds magical thyme Jun 2012 #38
Check out these Clydesdales! KansDem Jun 2012 #33
Thank you for the info. I have always loved horses but had not known much about this sport. jwirr Jun 2012 #55
It is if... lame54 Jun 2012 #17
An odd story from my husband's family - hedgehog Jun 2012 #20
My grandfather was killed by a bad horse. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2012 #25
One of great-grandfathers had a farm in KS at the turn of the 20th century and died kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #53
My dressage cats object to the spurs. And, the dressage goldfish object to the saddles. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2012 #21
yes roody Jun 2012 #27
All captivity is cruelty to horses FarCenter Jun 2012 #28
LOL where the cattle ranchers complain about them Scout Jun 2012 #30
which beats chasing them down with helicopters magical thyme Jun 2012 #39
Ummm... sarcasm smilie? n/t PavePusher Jun 2012 #31
Except that the majority of horse breeds were created by humans Larkspur Jun 2012 #37
my neighbor tried to set my horses free on the "range" magical thyme Jun 2012 #40
The average lifespan of a wild horse is 8 years, usually worm infested riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #44
They are a domesticated species, too far removed from wild living to be successful at it. kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #54
It is in France. deaniac21 Jun 2012 #42
Horses and horse competitions are a passion for many, many people. MissMarple Jun 2012 #43
good post MissMarple sweetapogee Jun 2012 #47
Thank you MissMarple Jun 2012 #50
Dressage moves are natural actions a horse does in the wild riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #45
Again - thank you to all who answered this - i wanted to hedgehog Jun 2012 #48
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