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In reply to the discussion: Should California Threaten Secession To Abolish Electoral College? [View all]TheFrenchRazor
(2,116 posts)149. yeah! and the Soviet Union will never break up either!! nt
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Wouldn't you have to answer those Qs to have said threat taken seriously??
malchickiwick
Dec 2016
#7
So.......what? You're suggesting an empty threat that you don't intend to follow through on?
WillowTree
Dec 2016
#14
Why just California? There can be further negotiations. A divorce, not war.
Missn-Hitch
Dec 2016
#244
Military installations are federal property, Washington isn't going to just let them go...
Marengo
Dec 2016
#39
Pure fantasy, and see post 39 for most likely outcome. After defeat, CA won't have any power...
Marengo
Dec 2016
#61
LOL! Let us know when you will be speaking with Gov Brown, and what his response to your idea
Marengo
Dec 2016
#87
Are you predicting Jay Inslee will threaten secession, and if it comes to that, secession will...
Marengo
Dec 2016
#106
even more importantly. You can't effectively threaten something you can't achieve.
onenote
Dec 2016
#192
California and New York are probably the two states, maybe a couple of others, that ...
brush
Dec 2016
#331
They would damn sure miss our tax dollars. I don't give two shits if they care.
onecaliberal
Dec 2016
#13
While it might work out well for some states like California to secede from the union...
spin
Dec 2016
#30
I understand your point. The problem is that you have to convince those people ...
spin
Dec 2016
#54
They would damn sure miss our ports, food, entertainment, and high tech.
DemocratSinceBirth
Dec 2016
#23
Almost every state is like that first map--blue in urban areas, red in the rural.
yurbud
Dec 2016
#328
a better way to go would be to figure out what those red district people want that fits our values
yurbud
Dec 2016
#329
If Texas were not in the union, Hillary would have won by 2 votes in the Electoral College.
pnwmom
Dec 2016
#357
Yep! Conservative activist living in Russia and opened a CA "embassy" in Russia
Madam45for2923
Dec 2016
#41
If as you admit secession isn't the point, how does threatening secession accomplish anything
onenote
Dec 2016
#216
and give repubs a head start on every singe presidential election? no thanks. nt
TheFrenchRazor
Dec 2016
#154
EC reform is the unobtainable goal; red states will NEVER go for it, because it benefits them,
TheFrenchRazor
Dec 2016
#274
reading comprehension; didn't say we can't ever win or haven't ever won; what i said
TheFrenchRazor
Dec 2016
#299
um, yes, because we have more HUMAN democratic voters there; small states get more EC votes per HUMA
TheFrenchRazor
Dec 2016
#338
In case you don't remember the courts dismantled the voting rights act in 2013.
pnwmom
Dec 2016
#358
gerrymandering wasn't a factor in Trump vote, voter suppression certainly was.
eniwetok
Dec 2016
#369
I think replacing Social Security and Medicare would be more easily accomplished if CA left
nbsmom
Dec 2016
#296
possession is 9/10 of the law, and what "grid" are you talking about? sure, there would need
TheFrenchRazor
Dec 2016
#160
ok, well, they better start building some power plants. it's not impossible. nt
TheFrenchRazor
Dec 2016
#275
i fully understand that; it's not going to happen tomorrow, but it is possible. nt
TheFrenchRazor
Dec 2016
#300
And as as a newly minted country your credit to fund such projects is extreamly limited.
oneshooter
Dec 2016
#318
you seriously think the law matters in this country? it's might makes right, unfortunately. in any c
TheFrenchRazor
Dec 2016
#277
Gee. Small countries wouldn't survive if they were subject to trade embargoes.
onenote
Dec 2016
#308
well, that's a big "if." i suppose we could just nuke small countries tomorrow... maybe trump will..
TheFrenchRazor
Dec 2016
#340
you're the one who's got to be kiiding; you think CA is a free-loader on this country? nt
TheFrenchRazor
Dec 2016
#279
What if it encourages the the rest of the West Coast and blue East Coast to secede?
DemocratSinceBirth
Dec 2016
#28
i think it would be great; are you seriously worried that we wouldn't be "the greatest" anymore?
TheFrenchRazor
Dec 2016
#280
Don't fall for this ruse! Right wing activist living in Russia started this
Madam45for2923
Dec 2016
#44
LOL! Again: From His Home in Russia, #Calexit Leader Plots California Secession
Madam45for2923
Dec 2016
#70
I guess now that the Electoral College is voting, some people will need a new fantasy idea...
brooklynite
Dec 2016
#66
with that kind of small thinking, we would still be a part of great britain. nt
TheFrenchRazor
Dec 2016
#147
"....protect itself from Mexico who would probably sacrifice a LOT to annex California."
EX500rider
Dec 2016
#80
Not necessarily true....when the Soviet Union broke up everyone kept what was on their soil..
EX500rider
Dec 2016
#134
You are talking about California Secession also! Am mentioning facts about the leader of Cal-exit
Madam45for2923
Dec 2016
#89
agreed, especially since the system benefits repugs and they know it. nt
TheFrenchRazor
Dec 2016
#341
the EC *is* the problem; it gives repubs a built in advantage, and that is not going to change.
TheFrenchRazor
Dec 2016
#281
you are totally missing my (and others') point; yes, voter suppression, russian interference
TheFrenchRazor
Dec 2016
#298
i'm not willing to just accept a permanent disadvantage; repubs will NEVER accept any modification o
TheFrenchRazor
Dec 2016
#306
of course it's reasonable, but have you met republicans lately? this country will go down in flames
TheFrenchRazor
Dec 2016
#342
speak for yourself. i have never opposed secession for any state that chooses it. nt
TheFrenchRazor
Dec 2016
#151
and the US is 3 times the size it was then; it NEEDS to break up at this point. nt
TheFrenchRazor
Dec 2016
#152
absolutely, or simply refuse to comply with fed dictates that go against the will of the people. nt
TheFrenchRazor
Dec 2016
#130
i support secession, not just the threat of it, but it seems like nullification might be more possib
TheFrenchRazor
Dec 2016
#157
well, that's up to the citizens of Calitopia, going forward. yes i'm sure it's unconstitutional, but
TheFrenchRazor
Dec 2016
#282
There's a bunch of folks who should take up writing sci-fi novels. There's more people in Calif....
Hekate
Dec 2016
#139
We have a better chance of being hit by lightning than this being an option..
Uggwearingdad
Dec 2016
#155
with that kind of small thinking, we would still be a part of great britain. nt
TheFrenchRazor
Dec 2016
#166
It's been read thourghly...it's a not well thought out idea...even a threat of leaving...
Uggwearingdad
Dec 2016
#196
I never once claimed it would start a Civil War...you seem to be the 1 not reading
Uggwearingdad
Dec 2016
#186
I'm sorry..did you miss the fact that the post you C&P'd was a QUESTION to your..
Uggwearingdad
Dec 2016
#314
No..I never did......I asked a question....based on a reference to the Revolution...
Uggwearingdad
Dec 2016
#335
"I completely disagree that this would start a civil war" - of course not, because like Texas...
PoliticAverse
Dec 2016
#211
1. other states could go with them. 2. seriously doubt red staters would risk their own lives to sto
TheFrenchRazor
Dec 2016
#273
Secession would require either a Constintutional ammendment, or a civil war.
still_one
Dec 2016
#156
It would be argued that after the Civil War the states entered into an indissoluble
still_one
Dec 2016
#171
Good point, but if we do it, we might want to do it while the SC is still 4 + 4
still_one
Dec 2016
#180
correct; it is not prohibited; the founding documents of this country specifically provide for the p
TheFrenchRazor
Dec 2016
#284
living in it and changing it are not mutually exclusive, but thanks for the negativity. nt
TheFrenchRazor
Dec 2016
#307
hey, if making threats without any intention of following through can be effective
onenote
Dec 2016
#194
The people, not the states or the cities, will matter if the election is by popular vote.
MovingForward2020
Dec 2016
#227
Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.
deaniac21
Dec 2016
#241
If California left the US, there would never be another Dem president. Not without
frankieallen
Dec 2016
#243
reform? the basic structure of our government? We are not a democracy, we are a representative
frankieallen
Dec 2016
#262
I'm not going to waste my time, there is so many twisted and false points in your post, I would not
frankieallen
Dec 2016
#368
well, if ALL the blue states left, they wouldn't have much of a country to be president of. nt
TheFrenchRazor
Dec 2016
#343
so you think you can discredit an idea by attacking the person who suggests it...
eniwetok
Dec 2016
#374
Dear, you haven't seem me pick a fight. I went easy on you, because it seemed to be unfair not to.
X_Digger
Dec 2016
#360
You keep saying that.."Red Herring Alert!"....it's you doing red herrings
Uggwearingdad
Dec 2016
#344
Have you presented this idea to Gov. Brown yet? If so, what was his response. If not, why not?
Marengo
Dec 2016
#365
Red states would let CA secede in order to solidify power over the remaining states.
LonePirate
Dec 2016
#377