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Stonepounder

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Tue Sep 20, 2016, 11:40 AM Sep 2016

Arizona now considers changing diapers to be a sex crime. [View all]

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2016/09/16/arizona_child_sexual_abuse_law_guts_due_process_for_parents_and_caregivers.html

If You Change a Baby’s Diaper in Arizona, You Can Now Be Convicted of Child Molestation

The Arizona Supreme Court issued a stunning and horrifying decision on Tuesday, interpreting a state law to criminalize any contact between an adult and a child’s genitals. According to the court, the law’s sweep encompasses wholly innocent conduct, such as changing a diaper or bathing a baby. As the stinging dissent notes, “parents and other caregivers” in the state are now considered to be “child molesters or sex abusers under Arizona law.” Those convicted under the statute may be imprisoned for five years.

How did this happen? A combination of bad legislating and terrible judging. Start with the legislature, which passed laws forbidding any person from “intentionally or knowingly … touching … any part of the genitals, anus or female breast” of a child “under fifteen years of age.” Notice something odd about that? Although the laws call such contact “child molestation” or “sexual abuse,” the statutes themselves do not require the “touching” to be sexual in nature. (No other state’s law excludes this element of improper sexual intent.) Indeed, read literally, the statutes would seem to prohibit parents from changing their child’s diaper. And the measures forbid both “direct and indirect touching,” meaning parents cannot even bathe their child without becoming sexual abusers under the law.

Arizona’s Supreme Court had an opportunity to remedy this glaring problem. A man convicted under these laws urged the justices to limit the statutes’ scope by interpreting the “touching” element to require some sexual intent. But by a 3-2 vote, the court refused and declared that the law criminalized the completely innocent touching of a child. The majority declined to “rewrite the statutes to require the state to prove sexual motivation, when the statutes clearly contain no such requirement.” Moreover, the court held that the laws posed no due process problem, because those prosecuted under the statute could still assert “lack of sexual motivation” as an “affirmative defense” at trial—one the defendant himself must prove to the jury “by a preponderance of the evidence.” As to the risk that the law criminalizes typical parental tasks, the majority shrugs that “prosecutors are unlikely to charge parents” engaged in innocent conduct. (This “just trust the prosecutors” dodge doesn’t always work out so well in Arizona.)


This country is going insane! I am less and less sure that we will be able to survive as anything other than a third-world country, with a dictator (and his family), people starving in the streets (oh, wait, they already are and people are getting arrested for trying to feed them), purges and pogroms, etc.

The legislatures in tea-party states are going crazy, as are the courts. And we've got a madman supported by the Republican Party with an actual change to become President.
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Keep voting for stupid people! Iggo Sep 2016 #1
Surely this is an onion article right? Calculating Sep 2016 #2
That was the first thing I looked for in the url. Frustratedlady Sep 2016 #4
Idiocracy - check it out. It's a movie... TheDebbieDee Sep 2016 #34
For real? So the majority of us have been duped? I certainly was. eom Frustratedlady Sep 2016 #39
No! I mean our country is being run by idiots because TheDebbieDee Sep 2016 #40
Oh, OK. I'm not familiar with that movie. Frustratedlady Sep 2016 #41
Here is the opening, which explains the movie FrodosPet Sep 2016 #59
Thanks! Scary that reproducing is the only task they understand. eom Frustratedlady Sep 2016 #60
Finally some sensible legislation! Orrex Sep 2016 #3
Probably coming soon to NC unc70 Sep 2016 #5
It appears that this law will be "rendered unconstitutional" ismnotwasm Sep 2016 #6
This outlaws infant circumcision. forgotmylogin Sep 2016 #7
Amazing this has not been the main DU angle on this muriel_volestrangler Sep 2016 #38
What is happenening? What country am I living in? Initech Sep 2016 #8
No, it doesn't. It's just a badly worded bill. WillowTree Sep 2016 #9
You see, but that is the thing quaker bill Sep 2016 #62
Infants and toddlers will have to bathe themselves. milestogo Sep 2016 #10
And what that article fails to mention is the ruling was regarding a case involving an 11 year old kcr Sep 2016 #20
A catch 22 law GWC58 Sep 2016 #55
They'll have to imprison nurses, too. Ilsa Sep 2016 #11
Why didn't the court just strike down the stupid law? LuvNewcastle Sep 2016 #12
That is not how courts work. Without a constitutional violation at State or Federal level CBGLuthier Sep 2016 #15
I'm not a strict constructionist. LuvNewcastle Sep 2016 #18
No constitutional right to cleanliness. CBGLuthier Sep 2016 #19
Yes, the fault is with the legislature, no doubt. LuvNewcastle Sep 2016 #22
Yes there is WDIM Sep 2016 #28
Show me where or admit you are talking out your ass. CBGLuthier Sep 2016 #33
The decision talks about "parents’ constitutional right to manage and care for their children" muriel_volestrangler Sep 2016 #35
constitutional right to parent? Where the fuck is that one hidden? CBGLuthier Sep 2016 #36
Fourteenth Amendment, as the Supreme Court said (nt) muriel_volestrangler Sep 2016 #37
Sure, because a person under A) would have no standing. malthaussen Sep 2016 #57
The 9th and 10th amendments protect WDIM Sep 2016 #47
They have to have a legal reason treestar Sep 2016 #52
Nice catch-22 sarisataka Sep 2016 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author kestrel91316 Sep 2016 #14
throw 'em in the washing machine, I guess rurallib Sep 2016 #23
Use the sprayer in your kitchen sink to rinse off your kid's genitals meow2u3 Sep 2016 #30
That would be "indirect touching," though, wouldn't it? nt tblue37 Sep 2016 #43
They are trusting prosecutors to make good judgements davidn3600 Sep 2016 #16
What if a doctor needs to examine a child??? Takket Sep 2016 #17
Sex crime! closeupready Sep 2016 #29
So, parents, sitters, and nurses are going to be guilty of either criminal child neglect or haele Sep 2016 #21
The problem with being a legislator faced with these types of laws, EL34x4 Sep 2016 #25
Teachers also HockeyMom Sep 2016 #31
No. kcr Sep 2016 #24
Do they expect the baby to change themselves? liberal N proud Sep 2016 #26
We have self driving cars. Why not self changing diapers? Initech Sep 2016 #58
I suspect that in Arizona.... chillfactor Sep 2016 #27
What about testicular exams on young boys?????????????????? yellowcanine Sep 2016 #32
And so we wait... Stonepounder Sep 2016 #42
Or divorce cases Bettie Sep 2016 #46
So, will babies just keep changing custody back and forth between parents kcr Sep 2016 #49
No, but parents will use this as ammunition when Bettie Sep 2016 #54
Again. How can they do that? kcr Sep 2016 #61
Looks like Arizona wants to be the new Flor-i-duh! TheDebbieDee Sep 2016 #44
Welcome to theocratic fascism. N/t roamer65 Sep 2016 #45
Well I guess all those darn babies just going to have to learn how to change LisaL Sep 2016 #48
like i need another reason to stay out of arizona dembotoz Sep 2016 #50
Evangelical Sharia phallon Sep 2016 #51
I thought that a law needed to pass the test, Mme. Defarge Sep 2016 #53
In AZ it just has to pass the "whisper test." marybourg Sep 2016 #56
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