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14. But, it actually is an objective thing, whatever rich westerners think

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Mon Aug 22, 2016, 02:14 PM

Aug 2016

Not dying from cholera is very objective.

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Why can’t we see that we’re living in a golden age? [View all] Recursion Aug 2016 OP

Gilded Age -- Not golden. seabeckind Aug 2016 #1

Household income is an easily skewed measure, in both directions bhikkhu Aug 2016 #17

And it is all unsustainable! Dustlawyer Aug 2016 #2

Classic dishonest Capitalist nonsense. Odin2005 Aug 2016 #3

Why are you against people having clean water and getting out of extreme poverty? Recursion Aug 2016 #5

In Flint, of course. seabeckind Aug 2016 #6

In the real world. Odin2005 Aug 2016 #55

What's been the impact on the environment? FLPanhandle Aug 2016 #11

Economic development is the most effective contraceptive Recursion Aug 2016 #12

Worldwide fossil fuel use is increasing. hunter Aug 2016 #20

It's not an objective thing The2ndWheel Aug 2016 #13

But, it actually is an objective thing, whatever rich westerners think Recursion Aug 2016 #14

Easy to make it objective The2ndWheel Aug 2016 #15

"humans not dying for whatever reason isn't an objective good" Recursion Aug 2016 #45

The planet doesn't care if people live or die The2ndWheel Aug 2016 #58

"Income per household has increased by more than 30% since 1970..." 30% in 46 years averages Cal33 Aug 2016 #16

Median net compensation is a better way to look at it bhikkhu Aug 2016 #18

That makes zero sense (nt) Recursion Aug 2016 #21

People are pessimistic because they realize this can't last davidn3600 Aug 2016 #19

But to be fair, non-capitalist countries like Venezuela are also doing well. Nye Bevan Aug 2016 #22

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Come on. rug Aug 2016 #23

Yeah, I've read both Hegel and Marx. Both were wrong. Recursion Aug 2016 #30

Speaking of spiritual phenomenology, Norberg is describing crisis capitalism. rug Aug 2016 #33

Huh. Because wars are much, much, much, much less common today Recursion Aug 2016 #34

Why can’t you see that we’re living in a golden age? rug Aug 2016 #38

Well, so, Hegel was objectively wrong Recursion Aug 2016 #41

Penicillin and sewers do not cure capitalism. rug Aug 2016 #46

No, they cure cholera and typhoid. And capitalism pays for that. Recursion Aug 2016 #47

Yes, I enjoyed your posts From Mumbai. rug Aug 2016 #50

Requiem for the American Dream Go Vols Aug 2016 #24

"Widely regarded as the most important intellectual alive" Recursion Aug 2016 #25

What part of the Documentary did you find false? Go Vols Aug 2016 #51

Well, if he told you that, you know it's true. NuclearDem Aug 2016 #62

I can't argue with that logic... (nt) Recursion Aug 2016 #63

Written by a fellow at the Cato Institute. tenderfoot Aug 2016 #26

So critique his argument (nt) Recursion Aug 2016 #27

You're not supposed to link to right wing sources. tenderfoot Aug 2016 #29

Interesting Recursion Aug 2016 #31

Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #32

So, again, no response Recursion Aug 2016 #36

No matter if one uses median income or average income or GDP, guillaumeb Aug 2016 #35

Except the median income doesn't get pushed up by the top 1% Recursion Aug 2016 #37

Assuming you read my response, I will defer to that response. guillaumeb Aug 2016 #40

Nope. Ideology is blinding you. The number of humans in extreme poverty Recursion Aug 2016 #42

"You're on the side of evil". WTF? DLevine Aug 2016 #54

Your leaps of logic are amazing. guillaumeb Aug 2016 #61

The Spectator-'a weekly British conservative magazine.' ---Wikipedia Kingofalldems Aug 2016 #39

So, no answer? Recursion Aug 2016 #43

Not to right wing sources. Kingofalldems Aug 2016 #44

I guess this is a golden age for the plutocrat that can buy whatever they want. Rex Aug 2016 #53

The middle class is shrinking. CentralMass Aug 2016 #48

So that says the middle class has shrunk because more people are upper income Recursion Aug 2016 #49

Probably because all the gold is in only a few places and its hoarders refuse to share Warpy Aug 2016 #52

From a global perspective ... yes. dawg Aug 2016 #56

They're way, way up since the 1970s. They're even up since the 1990s Recursion Aug 2016 #57

Most people don't have that long of a perspective. dawg Aug 2016 #59

Excellent point. seabeckind Aug 2016 #60

Since I make less in real dollars much less adjusting for inflation than I did 12 years ago TheKentuckian Aug 2016 #64

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