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(47,427 posts) Wed Jul 20, 2016, 01:58 PM Jul 2016

Monsanto Fingerprints Found all Over Attack on Organic Food [View all]

<When a reputable-sounding nonprofit organization released a report attacking the organic food industry in April 2014, the group went to great lengths to tout its independence.

The 30-page report by Academics Review, described as “a non-profit led by independent academic experts in agriculture and food sciences,” found that consumers were being duped into spending more money for organic food because of deceptive marketing practices by the organic industry.

Trade press headlines blared: “Organics exposed!” (Brownfield News) and “Organic Industry Booming by Deceiving Consumers” (Food Safety Tech News), touting the findings by supposedly independent experts.

The findings were “endorsed by an international panel of independent agricultural science, food science, economic and legal experts from respected international institutions,” according to the group’s press release.>

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stacy-malkan/monsanto-fingerprints-fou_b_10757524.html

This would explain a lot of things I've been reading around here that just didn't smell right. There is much, much more at the link.

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Monsanto Fingerprints Found all Over Attack on Organic Food [View all] PatSeg Jul 2016 OP

And the surprise here would be....? villager Jul 2016 #1

Well PatSeg Jul 2016 #5

They like to keep their faxed-in talking points short n' sweet. nt villager Jul 2016 #7

Before they resort to insults and ridicule PatSeg Jul 2016 #8

I was just about to add that! They are constitutionally incapable of civil discussion. villager Jul 2016 #9

Holy crap PatSeg Jul 2016 #10

The PMing aspect kept getting stranger and stranger.... villager Jul 2016 #12

Perhaps it was PMer PatSeg Jul 2016 #13

Here we go, "Mama Monsanto" PatSeg Jul 2016 #153

Sorry PatSeg Jul 2016 #154

When Cheney said food is a weapon, this now reveals the large corporate dark world he spoke for. ancianita Jul 2016 #2

Like some futuristic dystopia PatSeg Jul 2016 #4

Well.... HuckleB Jul 2016 #29

Organic means no glyphosate womanofthehills Jul 2016 #53

You keep making unsupported claims about glyphosate being carcinogenic... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #56

They are not unsupported - and the lawsuits are coming big time and Monsanto is going to pay womanofthehills Jul 2016 #60

Do you remember how republican spin doctors PatSeg Jul 2016 #63

Hogwash. HuckleB Jul 2016 #81

The way John Kerry's heroism was "swiftboated" womanofthehills Jul 2016 #91

ACA = Obamacare PatSeg Jul 2016 #95

People standing up to pseudoscience fictions is not like swift boating at all. HuckleB Jul 2016 #96

Thanks. So much goes by so fast around here that it's good to get as many reposts as possible. ancianita Jul 2016 #69

If the posts contain good information, yes. HuckleB Jul 2016 #143

True RapSoDee Jul 2016 #61

Welcome to DU PatSeg Jul 2016 #64

Thank you PatSeg. Glad to be here RapSoDee Jul 2016 #66

Some aren't always PatSeg Jul 2016 #70

Corporate trolls employ routine Republican techniques RapSoDee Jul 2016 #76

Yes PatSeg Jul 2016 #78

We've had decades of useless belief in spite of evidence that petitions are asking-nicely useless. ancianita Jul 2016 #71

NSS niyad Jul 2016 #3

Monsanto sells organic seeds. It makes plenty of money on the organic industry scam, too. HuckleB Jul 2016 #6

Why repost this shit again? What next? Chemtrails controlling our thoughts? Your tinfoil hat is... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #11

Sorry PatSeg Jul 2016 #14

It's not new to you, nor to "the others." HuckleB Jul 2016 #15

Ell Oh Ell TransitJohn Jul 2016 #17

Are you following me about? PatSeg Jul 2016 #18

I merely knew that this piece had already been posted. HuckleB Jul 2016 #19

I did not pretend PatSeg Jul 2016 #24

Oh, please. HuckleB Jul 2016 #25

Unfortunately it is typical for some here BuddhaGirl Jul 2016 #54

I could think of far PatSeg Jul 2016 #65

Indeed! There are way more important BuddhaGirl Jul 2016 #100

Thanks for the bit of sanity!!! PatSeg Jul 2016 #108

You win most ironic post of the day on several counts. HuckleB Jul 2016 #111

And yet, every day, you waste time trying to convince others of the same fictions. HuckleB Jul 2016 #101

Showing you caught in a bald-faced lie is not "stalking". cleanhippie Jul 2016 #26

Busted, patseg. Don't dig yourself into a deeper hole by denying it and deflecting. Nitram Jul 2016 #147

The fact is that Monsanto makes organic seed, why would they attack a part of the market they... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #16

Because GM and organic are not mutually exclusive Lithos Jul 2016 #32

The Big O organic industry is not for transparency, but spreading FUD, Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #35

Meh Lithos Jul 2016 #110

Very well said PatSeg Jul 2016 #114

It is really a trilogy Lithos Jul 2016 #116

I see Deathworld I PatSeg Jul 2016 #117

See: Lithos Jul 2016 #120

Thank you! PatSeg Jul 2016 #142

None of the claims you made are even factual, much less matching reality... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #126

Start here Lithos Jul 2016 #127

That's one study, what do the meta-analysis say? Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #129

Gosh Lithos Jul 2016 #132

Its downplayed because you are just spouting a word salad of nonsense... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #133

An opinion piece from an open-source journal that publishes Seralini & has almost no impact factor? HuckleB Jul 2016 #135

National institute of health is an open source journal Lithos Jul 2016 #137

Wow! You just showed a level of ignorance way beyond what I would have even imagined. HuckleB Jul 2016 #138

Do not recall PLOS-ONE Lithos Jul 2016 #140

And then you double down, and mention a completely different source than the one you used. HuckleB Jul 2016 #141

I still wait for your contribution Lithos Jul 2016 #145

You still don't even know how to respond. HuckleB Jul 2016 #146

Interesting overview PatSeg Jul 2016 #67

Because the growing organic market does not use Roundup womanofthehills Jul 2016 #88

You don't know why that doesn't even make sense, do you? HuckleB Jul 2016 #97

Of course it doesn't, instead it uses much more toxic chemicals, such as Copper Sulfate. n/t Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #124

It is indeed, conspiratorial thinking to believe a market force would look to its own profit LanternWaste Jul 2016 #20

Oh, it goes far beyond that, the premise here is that the entire scientific establishment is owned.. Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #21

. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #30

It's strange to see the pride shown by the marks. HuckleB Jul 2016 #31

bah... Lithos Jul 2016 #33

+1! tecelote Jul 2016 #37

Nonsense Major Nikon Jul 2016 #38

Tastes better too PatSeg Jul 2016 #72

Citations showing a consensus of science supporting this claim needed. HuckleB Jul 2016 #113

Not sure which citations you need Lithos Jul 2016 #115

So your assuming a cause when you have no evidence to support your assumed cause. HuckleB Jul 2016 #118

LOL Lithos Jul 2016 #119

No you're not. HuckleB Jul 2016 #121

How so? Lithos Jul 2016 #122

You made a claim. You have no support for it. HuckleB Jul 2016 #123

This was what I provided: Lithos Jul 2016 #125

You really don't get it, do you? HuckleB Jul 2016 #128

Would say the same to you Lithos Jul 2016 #130

Of course you would. HuckleB Jul 2016 #131

Lol Lithos Jul 2016 #134

It's reality. You made claims, sans evidence. HuckleB Jul 2016 #136

Well, don't forget PatSeg Jul 2016 #148

So asking for the guy to justify his claims is ridicule and derision? HuckleB Jul 2016 #149

Actually been asking you to do the same Lithos Jul 2016 #150

Ah, so you think that asking you to support your claims is derision and ridicule. HuckleB Jul 2016 #151

There was nothing "ugly or personal or ludicrous" in what I said PatSeg Jul 2016 #152

As usual, you refuse to acknowledge your own foibles. HuckleB Jul 2016 #155

Sigh PatSeg Jul 2016 #156

You have never tried to be reasonable. HuckleB Jul 2016 #157

If you think organic is a scam, just go ahead and eat your food loaded with glyphsate womanofthehills Jul 2016 #89

OFFS MohRokTah Jul 2016 #92

Repeatedly throw shit against the wall to see if any of it sticks Major Nikon Jul 2016 #40

Wow! I knew they peddled nonsense, but, yeah, again, WOW! HuckleB Jul 2016 #43

This message was self-deleted by its author Major Nikon Jul 2016 #41

You always say that anyone who disagrees with you believes in chemtails. womanofthehills Jul 2016 #44

No, they just display the same paranoid tendencies and display a lack of... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #50

The 9/11 truthers, anti-vaxxers, and chemtrail nutbags have gone the way of the dodo around here Major Nikon Jul 2016 #73

Kind of like your favorite source Major Nikon Jul 2016 #52

What? What? What? PatSeg Jul 2016 #74

We will keep reposting this "shit" until Monsanto takes the glyphosate out of our food womanofthehills Jul 2016 #87

I'm in my local Rainbow Grocery co-op four times a week. I know I pay more, but I support the store NBachers Jul 2016 #22

Also better to pay more PatSeg Jul 2016 #27

There is no evidence that the food is healthier, where do you get your information? n/t Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #39

Any foodout with the cancer causing glyphosate is healthier to me womanofthehills Jul 2016 #45

Glyphosate doesn't cause cancer, so try again. n/t Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #48

All sorts of foods contain formaldehyde Major Nikon Jul 2016 #55

Sure, like organic wine, right? Major Nikon Jul 2016 #49

At one time, PatSeg Jul 2016 #58

More evidence the scam works, though Major Nikon Jul 2016 #46

to me the whole "anti-organic" argument is laid waste mdbl Jul 2016 #23

Too much money in politics PatSeg Jul 2016 #28

The organic industry pushed for "Certified Organic" labels, then immediately went in to try to... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #34

And if their "organic" food is so great, why do they need to demonize the competition? HuckleB Jul 2016 #36

A few months ago I read several Opening Posts, which claimed Monsanto had paid Trolls working at DU. Jeffersons Ghost Jul 2016 #42

Really? Where are these paid trolls, and where is my fucking check? Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #47

What "conspiracy theory?" I simply reported that reasonable sounding OPs reported monsanto trolls Jeffersons Ghost Jul 2016 #62

It is common knowledge PatSeg Jul 2016 #75

There's also people who promote nonsense bought and paid for by Big-Organic® Major Nikon Jul 2016 #84

I really, really wasn't going to respond PatSeg Jul 2016 #86

What's really funny is your source is a paid tool of OCA Major Nikon Jul 2016 #94

Their trolls are all over the internet on every Dem site womanofthehills Jul 2016 #51

Several? Link us to them. HuckleB Jul 2016 #83

Guessing that Republicans could care less. ozone_man Jul 2016 #104

i'm shocked! Shocked I say! Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #57

Good luck with that Major Nikon Jul 2016 #68

No doubt. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #77

Actually appeal is nature is a fallacy Major Nikon Jul 2016 #79

Fine. I don't spray anything on my tomatoes to kill bugs. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #80

Organic doesn't mean no chemicals, which is a well debunked myth Major Nikon Jul 2016 #82

Well, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that "more nutritious" makes no sense. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #85

Nor does it take much grey matter to figure out the other claims make no sense Major Nikon Jul 2016 #90

Im not anti-GMO, by the way. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #99

Isn't increased production and lower food cost isn't a net positive? Major Nikon Jul 2016 #102

it is. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #103

The farmers themselves seem quite convinced Major Nikon Jul 2016 #105

Well again, I make a distinction between GMO technology itself and one specific use case Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #106

The potential is undoubtedly greater Major Nikon Jul 2016 #107

Well, in 2014 hippie crunchy granola Oregon -defeated- a GMO labeling initiative. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #109

The more information people get, the less the fear mongering holds sway. HuckleB Jul 2016 #112

Again, I don't put all organic food and anti-GMO hysteria in the same bucket. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #139

The marketing utilized by organic companies is quite obvious. HuckleB Jul 2016 #144

I've shot down a few of these @DU & got one to self delete ..links are hardly independent sources Person 2713 Jul 2016 #59

No, you haven't. HuckleB Jul 2016 #93

Why couldn't the organic-industry hack debunk the content of the actual paper? HuckleB Jul 2016 #98