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socialist_n_TN

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5. I agree. This is the pushback you get for killing people..........

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 02:28 PM

Jul 2016

and getting away with murder. OVER AND OVER AGAIN. It's understandable. But it is counterproductive.

Trotsky talked about random acts of anarchistic violence way back in 1909. It does nothing to get at the actual systemic reasons for the oppression and provides the police with a reason to further oppress and repress.

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It pains me to say this, but what the hell did they expect? [View all] Photographer Jul 2016 OP

Unfortunately for the innocent Dallas cops, but the justice system can't just keep . . . brush Jul 2016 #1

"Innocent cops"... n/t leeroysphitz Jul 2016 #3

fucked up reply, they were innocent Demonaut Jul 2016 #7

Those cops in Dallas were. I do know that "innocent cops" is usually an oxymoron. brush Jul 2016 #11

Maybe they were and maybe they weren't innocent. Nitram Jul 2016 #67

No they don't. You're awful. Action_Patrol Jul 2016 #77

There is truth in the post... just not a broad brush truth. Hoppy Jul 2016 #102

Agreed. 840high Jul 2016 #115

That's the harsh and brutal truth. puffy socks Jul 2016 #81

Dallas Officer-Involved Shootings Have Rapidly Declined In Recent Years baldguy Jul 2016 #111

Yes. Sooner or later LuvNewcastle Jul 2016 #88

I'm guessing they expected to protect the peaceful BLM assembly Dreamer Tatum Jul 2016 #2

OP has a point. At some point, the legal system fails (ie people lose faith in it). We can argue MillennialDem Jul 2016 #6

Sounds like those Dallas cops should have turned their guns on themselves. Dreamer Tatum Jul 2016 #12

Wow, nice strawman and red herring all in one. MillennialDem Jul 2016 #25

It's just the logical extension of the argument that the cops had it coming. Dreamer Tatum Jul 2016 #27

No, it isn't but nice try. I never said cops had it coming, I said OP had a point that MillennialDem Jul 2016 #29

No ... No ... No ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #40

Unfortunate, but true. smirkymonkey Jul 2016 #106

I wonder ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #33

I would guess the latter as that's what their main function is........ socialist_n_TN Jul 2016 #39

I agree; but, when has their function EVER been differently focused? 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #43

True. From their inception as "slave patrols" protecting the ....... socialist_n_TN Jul 2016 #49

I believe there was even a Supreme Court case that discussed this. white_wolf Jul 2016 #55

^^This^^ passiveporcupine Jul 2016 #78

Someone on television said that protestors can't be allowed to behave adigal Jul 2016 #118

+1000 Chemisse Jul 2016 #92

I expect you are right. 840high Jul 2016 #116

uh, no. This was a very unstable person who decided to randomly shoot police, that most likely still_one Jul 2016 #4

They were targeted just the way black men are passiveporcupine Jul 2016 #89

I agree. This is the pushback you get for killing people.......... socialist_n_TN Jul 2016 #5

Oh, well, if TROTSKY said it... Dreamer Tatum Jul 2016 #15

Well if you knew anything about Trotsky, you would know....... socialist_n_TN Jul 2016 #30

There is absolutely no justification to what happened in Dallas, just as there is no justification still_one Jul 2016 #31

Trotsky in 1932: KingCharlemagne Jul 2016 #22

Yep. Which means that cops don't belong in the labor movement......... socialist_n_TN Jul 2016 #28

All anyone needed to do was go to an Occupy camp to see this principle on KingCharlemagne Jul 2016 #32

Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #48

That's exactly the point that Socialist_n-TN is making: the cops in today's society KingCharlemagne Jul 2016 #51

Yep, you've got it KC. And as I said above....... socialist_n_TN Jul 2016 #58

That was also my point. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #61

what are you saying, police were first create to catch escaped slaves? that is the frankieallen Jul 2016 #69

You should research it. There's some truth to that. brush Jul 2016 #98

they created "slave patrols" to chase down runaways. frankieallen Jul 2016 #99

You must not have read all the way through brush Jul 2016 #103

This message was self-deleted by its author frankieallen Jul 2016 #84

this^^^^^^^ AntiBank Jul 2016 #35

+1 ... the violence just serves to deflect the cause and excuse the response. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #45

As Trotsky noted in this short piece in 1909........ socialist_n_TN Jul 2016 #56

I recall reading that. ChairmanAgnostic Jul 2016 #60

Indeed malaise Jul 2016 #93

That is the problem. What happened in Dallas may now distract from the still_one Jul 2016 #59

The problem is ... that is all bullshit ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #63

Well if past history is any prediction of future events, then you are correct still_one Jul 2016 #68

I have no reason to think, or even hope, that ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #90

gosh that's depressing still_one Jul 2016 #100

Yes ... I know. But, it is par for the course. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #108

It's not "may." It's "is." Scootaloo Jul 2016 #75

That was my concern of what would happen still_one Jul 2016 #86

I don't think it pains you melman Jul 2016 #8

Exactly. Whether it is the cold blooded murder of an African American for just being black, still_one Jul 2016 #10

Did you post the same thing for the Baton Rouge and Minnesoto murderers? brush Jul 2016 #14

Yes, it does. The killings of five people last night in Dallas was terrible. Photographer Jul 2016 #18

You implicitly excuse the murderer. You ABSOLUTELY do. Dreamer Tatum Jul 2016 #26

No, I don't. The murderer should have been prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law Photographer Jul 2016 #36

Give it a rest. You can't keep killing people year after year and no cop gets punished . . . brush Jul 2016 #41

Some will understand what is being /has been said ... others will work hard to not understand ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #53

This! smirkymonkey Jul 2016 #107

What has happened? ... Simple ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #113

of course there are reasons. Coppers are murdering people, especially AntiBank Jul 2016 #44

What justified the Zebra killings in the Bay Area in the seventies? still_one Jul 2016 #62

you seem to think I am calling the killings justified. I am not. AntiBank Jul 2016 #64

ok. Then I would suggest a qualification, that SOME police are killing and abusing African still_one Jul 2016 #66

I never said ACAB AntiBank Jul 2016 #74

Then I read it wrong, and obviously misrepresented it in my exchange with you. Appreciate the still_one Jul 2016 #85

Cause and effect. Springslips Jul 2016 #121

I think this view is really short sighted mythology Jul 2016 #79

I do not recall such sophistry in the analysis of Dylann Roof. Dreamer Tatum Jul 2016 #82

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #112

"they"? rollin74 Jul 2016 #9

absolutely. That is the same mind set the racists use when they abuse people of color. still_one Jul 2016 #13

I guess I used "they" as a collective "we" as in American society. Photographer Jul 2016 #19

"All oppression breeds resistance." ~Mao - nt KingCharlemagne Jul 2016 #16

Mao, a real humanitarian. The Cultural Revolution was a wonderful idea still_one Jul 2016 #37

the statement is still true, regardless of the sourcing AntiBank Jul 2016 #50

I know, right? B2G Jul 2016 #17

Pls see reply 19 above. Photographer Jul 2016 #21

I take exception to your assertion that we were protesting their existence Ash_F Jul 2016 #24

Nobody was protesting Police existence rbrnmw Jul 2016 #47

they were protesting racially targeted murder-by-cop AntiBank Jul 2016 #54

While DPD has serious problems, it is not like a lot of police forces that end up on the news Ash_F Jul 2016 #20

I think it goes way beyond bullsnarfle Jul 2016 #23

^^TRUTH^^ - nt KingCharlemagne Jul 2016 #34

Of course then there are these guys: jonno99 Jul 2016 #57

Amazing - and heartwarming n/t Chemisse Jul 2016 #94

Yes. Sadly I think situations like this would be more the norm except for lack of trust jonno99 Jul 2016 #97

Yeah, unfortunately it is kind of inevitabile Bradical79 Jul 2016 #38

spot on. Photographer Jul 2016 #42

Christopher Dorner was prologue and prophetic. - nt KingCharlemagne Jul 2016 #52

Agreed. MuttLikeMe Jul 2016 #110

The killing of black people has been coco77 Jul 2016 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author Th1onein Jul 2016 #65

Reminds me if the Israelis vs the Palestinians. Nitram Jul 2016 #70

Dallas was one of the places trying to get it right... JCMach1 Jul 2016 #71

Exactly! lark Jul 2016 #72

Predictably the "Two Wrongs Make a Right" contingent is out in force today. Sad. Really sad. WillowTree Jul 2016 #73

Very sad. Bodies barely cold. 840high Jul 2016 #117

'They' who? elleng Jul 2016 #76

Psychotic asshole cowards who wanted to "kill white people", especially white officers. frankieallen Jul 2016 #80

murder is murder YOHABLO Jul 2016 #83

It's possible to be horrified loyalsister Jul 2016 #87

thank you annabanana Jul 2016 #96

Blowback Dworkin Jul 2016 #105

I assume you're operating with a literal definition? loyalsister Jul 2016 #109

White supremacistswith badges and weapons The Wizard Jul 2016 #91

As Van Jones just said on CNN you do not blame all Christians for what applegrove Jul 2016 #95

Not all cops are bad. liberalmuse Jul 2016 #101

The President's 2014 task force bucolic_frolic Jul 2016 #104

nice stereotyping Skittles Jul 2016 #114

What? Who was stereotyped here? Photographer Jul 2016 #120

Just another false flag operation to condemn the protesters. Matt_R Jul 2016 #119