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4th law of robotics

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Mon Jun 11, 2012, 01:33 PM
Jun 2012

1) Do you believe these will all be old animals that no one wants?
By definition they will be animals that no one wants for anything but slaughter.

2) Do you know if "old horse meat", neglected and diseased flesh is the preferred cut in Belgium and France?

A) You assume it will be "diseased" and B) you assume the sole market with be Belgium and France. So that's an argument based on two flawed assumptions.

3) How are the horses killed in the US compared to how they kill the animals in Mexico? After all, you claim to know so much about this industry.
In the US they are killed using a captive bolt to first stun the animal then they are bled out. This is all watched over by the USDA. In mexico . . . it's whatever the operator feels like and oversight is minimal.

4) Do you believe at a rate of slaughtering 800 animals per day that they can sustain their policy of killing only old and unwanted animals?
Does it matter what kind of animals they're killing? Do you likewise insist we only kill old cows for slaughter?

5)How long before they accept unwanted "pets", losing race horses and old companion animals?
Again, does it matter why they are being slaughtered? They are unwanted.

6)With the door opened for horse slaughter for food, how long do you think will it be before we start raising horses for slaughter just like cows and chickens?
Depends on the market. By asking this you seem to be expressing some disgust at the notion of raising horses for food. Can you either A) refute that and state that you see no difference between eating horse and eating any other kind of meat or B) maintain that argument and offer support as to why it's wrong to eat horse, but ok to eat cow or I suppose C) argue against eating meat entirely.

7) Do you think we should slaughter dogs for the Asian food market?
If there's a market here for it, sure. I won't partake. But I acknowledge that the reason I don't want to eat dog is entirely cultural rather than logical, others may have different beliefs and as long as they don't insist I share those beliefs I have no problem with what they choose to do. Are you opposed to others having different cultural beliefs than you do? Or are you just opposed to them being able to express those beliefs legally, rather than being forced to rely on a black market?

8)If they kill only old and unwanted animals, are you concerned that the old animals may have been treated with drugs and antibiotics that would then be consumed by humans?
That is regulated by the USDA. Same as any other kind of livestock.

Also, great geographic swaths of land are much closer to ol' Mexico than Rockville, MO and people typically move horses around the country on a daily basis so your proximity to the slaughter house argument to reduce stress on the horse is very weak.

My argument that slaughter houses within the US are going to be closer than slaughter houses out of the US is weak. Awesome. I'm so glad you made that argument, I was having kind of a dull day.

Likewise: why do people tend to work at jobs within the same city that they live when in reality jobs in other countries are most likely closer? I know if I'm looking for a job it certainly won't be within the US as everywhere in Mexico is by definition closer to where I live in the US than anywhere in the US. Because well . . . duh.


K&R SunSeeker Jun 2012 #1
Important but sad story about the toll of racing on horses. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2012 #2
Soon, they won't be sending them to Mexico for slaughter anymore. The Midway Rebel Jun 2012 #3
Actually it is good news, MadHound Jun 2012 #4
It's very good news 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #5
You and Mad Hound forgot to mention the 50 jobs this horse slaughter plant creates... The Midway Rebel Jun 2012 #8
While that's obviously a ridiculously low estimate on your part 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #9
No. What is obviously ridiculous is the way you to reject FACTS. The Midway Rebel Jun 2012 #10
So your complaint with horse slaughter is . . . ? 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #11
No complaints here. The Midway Rebel Jun 2012 #12
As someone who does know quite a bit about this industry 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #17
Since you claim to know much about the industry of horse slaughtering, a few questions. The Midway Rebel Jun 2012 #18
. . . 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #19
Excellent NY Times story on this topic jade3000 Jun 2012 #6
It's brutal. The same is true with greyhounds. HopeHoops Jun 2012 #7
We need to protect the "muscle" animals FrodosPet Jun 2012 #13
Stop supporting horse racing, greyhound racing, rodeos and circuses that use animals. Please. Arugula Latte Jun 2012 #14
How else do we keep these animals alive? FrodosPet Jun 2012 #15
I don't think that's an issue for any of these animals. Arugula Latte Jun 2012 #16
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