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louis c

(8,652 posts)
63. Consumer Confidence
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 08:09 AM
Jun 2016

In the market and the real estate crash in 2008-2009, people's home values plummeted.

If you remained in your home, it was of no financial consequence if you could maintain your mortgage payments. However, the feeling of wealth and security affected the consumer confidence of home owners and investors. If an individual had a mortgage of $250,000 and the home value went from $280,000 to $200,000, that person lost confidence, even though he wasn't selling. At that point, his potential loss of employment meant he had no safety net. Same thing with a 401K. In turbulent times, the feeling of security can have a tremendous effect on the overall economy, since confidence is a major part of the economic health of a nation.

So, my point is, that to have a potential President gloating over the misfortune of others, should have a debilitating effect on his election chances.

I hope you understand my point, now.

Republican Chump-in-Chief Trump sneers at the Little People who lost Scientific Jun 2016 #1
Wow, those are tiny hands. L. Coyote Jun 2016 #5
Especially in front of that big belly. Shrike47 Jun 2016 #10
Tiny hands. IrishEyes Jun 2016 #28
He never wears shorts ToxMarz Jun 2016 #31
so sorry to hear that. many are going to be quite surprised at how this affects them here. niyad Jun 2016 #2
Don't feel sorry louis c Jun 2016 #7
A trump presidency would be the US's Brexit. Maraya1969 Jun 2016 #3
+1 fleabiscuit Jun 2016 #50
Trump probably bet on the pound crashing. L. Coyote Jun 2016 #4
"Soros looks set to make a killing on Brexit result" 7962 Jun 2016 #51
what morality does a put option buy you?? unblock Jun 2016 #78
Because the put option gives you the ability to buy shares later at the lower price 7962 Jun 2016 #80
the effect on the market is immediate for options as well. unblock Jun 2016 #84
I can't believe anyone would vote for him after wearing a "Make Me Great Again" hat. scscholar Jun 2016 #54
That's PhotoShopped. L. Coyote Jun 2016 #58
If you didn't sell you lost nothing. XRubicon Jun 2016 #6
Agreed Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #9
I get that..... louis c Jun 2016 #12
I hate Don the Con. XRubicon Jun 2016 #16
i have money in the market too, i loathe the bastard. not a shred of empathy or intelligence. spanone Jun 2016 #17
At 63 and close to retirement SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2016 #22
That is not always the case. Curmudgeoness Jun 2016 #33
We'll have to agree to disagree SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2016 #49
if you can have five years of money in safe investments belcffub Jun 2016 #61
True, but some of us are trying to catch up from Ilsa Jun 2016 #48
Not to mention there surely **will** be another very large "correction" at some point newthinking Jun 2016 #36
Think of those retiring at the end of the month, for example. No Vested Interest Jun 2016 #8
If you are retiring athe end of the month former9thward Jun 2016 #19
True, one would not cash out one's entire saving, but one may wish or need No Vested Interest Jun 2016 #62
I retired in 2009 at the bottom of the market, luckily I have a DB pension and didn't have to rely doc03 Jun 2016 #82
so very true. I pulled mine just before the housing crash. I knew it was coming and I am too old to swhisper1 Jun 2016 #20
They won't be in equities, and this is why (nt) Recursion Jun 2016 #75
Another thing that would make him happy... 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #11
he only cares about himself. nothing else. spanone Jun 2016 #13
Did you cash out today? former9thward Jun 2016 #14
You did well. Even $7000 on an index fund is not bad today. Barack_America Jun 2016 #18
I hold a Gold ETF which went up about 5% today. former9thward Jun 2016 #21
I can only guess you missed the point. Kingofalldems Jun 2016 #45
Thank you for understanding the point louis c Jun 2016 #64
Oh yes, I got it right away. Kingofalldems Jun 2016 #70
you should be highly offended, and your 401K will return if you can wait for markets to level off swhisper1 Jun 2016 #15
I tried to make this point elsewhere on DU Fritz Walter Jun 2016 #23
That is highly exaggerated. So Monday when the market is back yeoman6987 Jun 2016 #57
The 401K and the IRA are not defined benefit plans they are defined doc03 Jun 2016 #83
You should get it back over the next few weeks. Today was Chicken Little Day Warpy Jun 2016 #24
Meanwhile the funds that were in our accounts are in some one else's account liberal N proud Jun 2016 #29
It doesn't work like that Warpy Jun 2016 #34
401K is Reagan speak for pensions shadowmayor Jun 2016 #25
It benefits the financial industry and those who know about finance IronLionZion Jun 2016 #37
But maybe the whole model is wrong shadowmayor Jun 2016 #47
By the way, I have a pesion AND a 401K louis c Jun 2016 #67
American retirements have always been tied to the markets Major Nikon Jun 2016 #73
Trump is gloating because he buys when the market crashes IronLionZion Jun 2016 #26
Good advice. 7962 Jun 2016 #44
People like Trump are the winners when everyone else loses. liberal N proud Jun 2016 #27
You lost nothing unless you sell. Curmudgeoness Jun 2016 #30
You didn't actually lose a penny. In fact you've seen an increase Press Virginia Jun 2016 #32
Here's the point louis c Jun 2016 #66
We’ve seen this before.. busterbrown Jun 2016 #35
the point is louis c Jun 2016 #68
So many people with pensions have no idea where the money is. redstatebluegirl Jun 2016 #38
The older you get, the less "in the market" you should be. 7962 Jun 2016 #43
Unless they sold, his supporters did not lose money either. BerningForYou Jun 2016 #46
Reminds me of my favorite movie "It's a Wonderful Life" Redford Jun 2016 #39
So, where can I buy some of the swastika golf balls? Fritz Walter Jun 2016 #40
Unless you panicked and sold, no you didn't... MerryBlooms Jun 2016 #41
"This will all even out... no worries." L. Coyote Jun 2016 #59
You only lost if you sold. Where was it a few months back when we were @15K? 7962 Jun 2016 #42
I e-mailed my financial advisor this morning AnnieBW Jun 2016 #52
If you have dollars, invest in pounds now. Buy low and sell high. L. Coyote Jun 2016 #60
I agree with the sentiment... CincyDem Jun 2016 #53
You understand my point louis c Jun 2016 #69
Market is way over priced. ozone_man Jun 2016 #55
Did you sell??????? yeoman6987 Jun 2016 #56
Consumer Confidence louis c Jun 2016 #63
I do. Thank you. yeoman6987 Jun 2016 #71
I lost nothing because I have nothing. hobbit709 Jun 2016 #65
I lost $30k RussBLib Jun 2016 #72
If the polls show Trump with any shot come Oct 1st I'm out Johonny Jun 2016 #74
I lost just under 12K JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #76
I didnt lose anything THIS TIME benld74 Jun 2016 #77
Trump will never be POTUS. Ever. Rex Jun 2016 #79
I lost roughly the same on paper yesterday, I could have reached through the TV doc03 Jun 2016 #81
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